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Diwali or not, India can't boycott Chinese goods

As usual, Huawei's high-end phones will not target the so-called 2nd biggest smart phone market (in terms of shipments, one quarter of China's).
Just like all other premium brands (well, they think One Plus is premium, their choice), totally ignore such big
market, such as DJI ($1000+ drone for videos, seriously?) and BYD (they did sell one or two, but other markets can simply buy 10 or 50 in one purchase, each electric bus costs around 0.5-0.8 million US dollars),

Tomorrow, Huawei will launch its flagship Mate9 in München Germany, the premium model will cost over $1100.
It's actually OK for China to have different brands targeting different makets with significantly different purchasing power (I mean non-PPP money)

@Götterdämmerung


Lenovo dislodges Micromax from 2nd spot in India smartphones biz

Chinese tech-devices giant Lenovo has overtaken Micromax to become the second largest smartphone brand in India, Singapore-based analyst firm Canalys said. During the September quarter, shipment of Indian smartphone brands such as Micromax, Intex and Lava fell year-on-year, making way for Lenovo and Xiaomi to move up the ladder.

Another Chinese brand Xiaomi has captured the fourth spot in September quarter, the analyst firm noted. “Indian consumers are increasingly looking past local players’smartphones in favour of international brands. There is ongoing portfolio consolidation as local players change their product strategies, emphasising the 4G-enabled models that are now becoming mainstream. Besides having a strong LTE portfolio, channel strategy is increasingly important for smartphone success. Lenovo’s focus on offline channels and Xiaomi’s move away from being an online-only vendor have clearly helped. Xiaomi’s shipments grew by almost 170 per cent year-on-year, with its strongest quarter taking it to fourth place in an increasingly competitive market,” said Rushabh Doshi, analyst at Canalys.


As per preliminary data from another analyst firm Counterpoint Research, share of Chinese brands has increased further in India at the cost of Indian firms and market leader, Samsung. During 2016, Chinese brands’ share has increased to 32 per cent at the end of September from 21 per cent during the January-March quarter.

Market share of Micromax, on other hand, fell to 9.8 per cent in September from 17 per cent in March quarter. Intex, the third largest brand till June, went down to the fifth position after its share fell to 6.4 per cent. Market leader Samsung lost more than seven per cent share — from 29 per cent in March to 21.6 per cent in September.

“The above-Rs 10,000 segment has become significant as an increasing number of consumers are upgrading their smartphones, unlike earlier when conversion from feature phones to smartphones used to be the key driver. This has thrown challenge to many popular brands, especially Indian-origin, operating in the market for long. Chinese brands have managed to come up with superior offering with value for money proposition in the Rs 10,000-15,000 price range,” said Faisal Kawoosa, general manager, telecom and semitronics at CyberMedia Research.

According to Doshi, Lenovo’s focus on offline channels and Xiaomi’s move away from being an online-only vendor have paid off. “Xiaomi’s shipments grew by almost 170 per cent year-on-year, with its strongest quarter taking it to fourth place in an increasingly competitive market,” said Rushabh Doshi, analyst, Canalys. “Despite its smartphone shipments halving, Micromax held onto third place, but it is coming under pressure from Xiaomi and fifth-placed Lyf,” he said.

According to a note issued by Canalys, smartphone market grew 20 per cent year-on-year during the quarter to cross 30 million units. Samsung held on to the top slot with “a share of just over 20 per cent”.
 
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Regardless how desperately those orchestrate a trolling campaign in which they flood to social accounts of Chinese smartphone brands to post rubbish comments (very likely using Chinese smart phones themselves, or foreign phones manufactured in China or partly using components from China), OPPO et al. are just sold crazily during the hindu festival.

It must be killing them to spend perhaps their entire monthly salary to buy an OPPO F1.
In China, there is no OPPO F1 ($270), which is a cheap version of OPPO R9.
The latter one is the best-selling smart phone in September in China.

No.1 OPPO R9 2499-2999 yuan ($368-445)
No.2 VIVO X7 2499-2798yuan ($368-413)
No.3 Huawei P9 2988-3688 yuan ($440-545)
No.4 OPPO A59 1800 yuan ($266)
No.5 VIVO X7 Plus 2800 yuan ($415)



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While the social media in India is abuzz for boycotting of Chinese goods, the sales of Chinese smartphones are on the rise due to growing acceptance of brands like Vivo, Oppo, Huawei, Xiaomi and Lenovo. These brands are all set for a big Diwali bang with their aggressive sales plans. The Chinese handset vendors which gained huge traction in the Indian smartphone industry within a short span of time, have rolled out a slew of offers and schemes for customers. Vendors are also betting big on the E Commerce marketplaces such as Amazon, Flipkart and Snapdeal to generate maximum sales and brand recall.

Shower Of Offers On E Commerce

E Commerce has been a preferred sales and marketing platform for Chinese smartphone brands with exception of brands such as Xiaomi are focusing on their offline presence as well. However, all the Chinese smartphone vendors seem to have opted for E Commerce platforms this festive season and have announced a slew of offers and schemes for online customers.

Read more: Chinese Smartphone Brands Rule India Market In Q2′16

LeEco has announced its second Diwali sale that is slated to commence from October 26 and will end on October 30. Like its previous Diwali sale, the company is offering buyers discounts on its online store LeMall and on Flipkart. LeEco is also offering exchange offers on Flipkart where users can also exchange their old TVs for up to Rs. 25,000 when buying their new LeEco SuperTVs. Apart from the televisions, LeEco is offering an additional Rs. 1,500 when exchanging an old phone for the Le 2 on Flipkart. Similarly, another popular smartphone brand Oppo, has launched a special, Diwali edition, of their latest flagship, the Oppo F1s. Xiaomi has also offers lucrative discounts Redmi phones, Mi phones, and accessories for a discount on its website.

Another not so popular brand, OnePlus is not offering any direct discount on its new phone. However, it is running a replacement scheme for old phones. Customers can get a price reduction of up to Rs.16, 000, depending on the condition and the model of the phone that they intend to replace with OnePlus smartphones. The company is also running Diwali Dash sale in which buyers can get a chance to win the gold variant of the OnePlus 3 for free. The offer has commenced today on the OnePlus’ official online store.

Lenovo is offering an attractive discount on its budget smartphone Zuk Z1, making it more affordable Cyanogen phone the market. Earlier priced at Rs.13, 499, right now you can get it for Rs.10, 999. Lenovo is offering exchange offers on its various models which can help customers save up to Rs. 13,600. The amount of discount buyers, gets will depend on the handset they are putting up for exchange. These schemes and offers are aimed at pulling maximum crowd towards the brand and the surge in the smartphone race in India.

The Rise Of Chinese Smartphone Brands

With the smartphone industry is moving towards the downward direction in developing countries, India has emerged as the most promising growth destination for global smartphone vendors. India has surpassed the USA to become the second largest smartphone market worldwide. Similarly, with the growing adoption of 4G LTE and exponential growth in smartphone sales, Chinese smartphone makers are focusing on expanding their presence both online and offline.

Research agency Counterpoint’s recent report reveals the promising growth story of Chinese vendors in the country. According to the report, brands like Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo collectively had 32 percent of market share in the quarter, up from 27 percent in the last quarter. Moreover, Vivo, Oppo and Xiaomi made it to the top 10 list.

The rise of Chinese smartphone vendors has also shaken up the positions of market leaders such as Samsung and domestic player Micromax. “The Indian brands have seen losing their share to Chinese brands as well, collectively Micromax, Lava and Intex are losing almost 6 percent market share sequentially,” the report said. Samsung maintained its top position in the market with 21.60 percent share, Micromax stood at the second spot with 9.8 percent. The third spot was taken by Lenovo-Motorola group with 8.9 percent share. Reliance Digital’s LYF brand has surged to fourth spot with 6.70 percent.

Aggressive Expansion Plans

All the major Chinese brands have announced their very aggressive expansion plans in India. Government’s ‘Make in India’ initiative is the another booster for the Chinese handset manufacturers, who have already announced their aggressive plans in domestic manufacturing. Brands like Lenovo, Xiaomi, and Gionee have partnered Foxconn to assemble their devices in India. According to some reports, Oppo and Vivo intend to invest Rs. 2,000 each for setting up their new manufacturing plants.

Huawei has already opened its manufacturing unit in partnership with Flex Telecom in Chennai. The company has started producing the Honor smartphones from this month. The pace with which Chinese smartphones are heading in the industry, it is clear that the competition is set to intensify further. However, considering the huge untapped smartphone market in India, it would be interesting to see that how the Chinese brands will surpass the established smartphone vendors in the emerging growth regions.
 
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they will buy expensive US components from thousand of miles far at 40% increased cost. after all patriotism is enough to run the country.


Yesterday my parents bought Sony 40" Led TV. It was made in Malaysia, not China. Every low cost item China makes has a low/lower cost alternative in Malaysia, Vietnam, and India.

And I inquired about its manufacturing country before buying in order to not buy if it is Made in China, and shopkeeper replied that it is made in Malaysia and the new batch available from next year would be made in India as Sony has started manufacturing in India, but for now only manufacture Smart Led TV ,and we had bought non-Smart one to save some money.
 
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Yesterday my parents bought Sony 40" Led TV. It was made in Malaysia, not China. Every low cost item China makes has a low/lower cost alternative in Malaysia, Vietnam, and India.

And I inquired about its manufacturing country before buying in order to not buy if it is Made in China, and shopkeeper replied that it is made in Malaysia and the new batch available from next year would be made in India as Sony has started manufacturing in India, but for now only manufacture Smart Led TV ,and we had bought non-Smart one to save some money.
Do u understand global supply chain? Made(assembled) in Malaysia does not mean no China components, why don't u boycott that too?
 
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Do u understand global supply chain? Made(assembled) in Malaysia does not mean no China components, why don't u boycott that too?


Who cares about you? In China there is no news about India, people simply don't care while your media is obsessed with us, China this China that

yeah, the media is a big problem, it should focus more on our own internal matters than worry about China, but then again china has a habit of chest thumping a lot. Which provokes sentiments, with correlation to the Chinese members on this thread!

In essence, we should stop worrying about this & should not be giving them too much importance, it's a more pragmatic way. Assembled in Malaysia is far better than Made in China. either way, anything that helps's consumers choose between quality over quantity is far better approach!
 
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yeah, the media is a big problem, it should focus more on our own internal matters, than worry about China, but then again china has a habit of chest thumping a lot, which provokes sentiments, with correlation to the Chinese members on this thread!

In essence, we should stop worrying about this & should not be giving them too much importance, it's a more pragmatic way. Assembled in Malaysia is far better than Made in China. either way, anything that helps's consumers choose between quality over quantity is far better approach!
U get what u paid for, China produces high end stuff but those are out of reach for most Indians

Like I said in China, nobody cares about India, all news are second hand from western media like constant rape news, why do we even bother chest thumping against you? U are not in our league
 
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U get what u paid for, China produces high end stuff but those are out of reach for most Indians

Like I said in China, nobody cares about India, all news are second from western media like constant rape news, why do we even bother chest thumping against you? U are not in our league

Good for you! the league you're talking about we don't want to be part off. We have different ideologies and your communist mindset will not work vice versa with a functional democracy, On that basis's we don't need to chest thump to glory!
 
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U get what u paid for, China produces high end stuff but those are out of reach for most Indians

Like I said in China, nobody cares about India, all news are second from western media like constant rape news, why do we even bother chest thumping against you? U are not in our league
High-end producers or premium sub-brands simply ignore such shining market....
Remember DJI Mavic which is going crazy in the West?
Or DJI Phantom 4 half a year ago?


Check their official online shop, not sold there.
Well, they can go to an Apple official store around the world to buy DJI drones....
But....
Sorry.....no Apple store in india.....

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Do you think any of their farmers will buy a 15000 dollars DJI drone
to better manage their farmland???


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Good for you! the league you're talking about we don't want to be part off. We have different ideologies and your communist mindset will not work vice versa with a functional democracy, On that basis's we don't need to chest thump to glory!
Democracy or caste/religion-related populism-driven demoncrazy?
Joke of the year!
 
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Good for you! the league you're talking about we don't want to be part off. We have different ideologies and your communist mindset will not work vice versa with a functional democracy, On that basis's we don't need to chest thump to glory!
democracy is so over rated, my friend. it does not give propsperity and justice, just look at Iraq, Americas democracy gift to the world
Even their own election mess
 
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democracy is so over rated, my friend. it does not give propsperity and justice, just look at Iraq, "Americas democracy gift to the world"
Even their own election mess

Forget about it....
I have never heard of one single successful west-style democracy in any of developing countries.....

In terms of Australia, look at this news....

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ing-points-in-new-trains-20161031-gsej01.html
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...-shortages-email-reveals-20161029-gsdtdk.html

Any feeling that such news is supposed to be from india?
Western democracy is losing its meritocracy grounds.....
It is quickly deteriorating into a demoncrazy found in developing countries such as india and post-"revolution" North Africa.

How Social Darwinism Made Modern China: A thousand years of meritocracy shaped the Middle Kingdom.

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Indian are frogs in the well. Malaysia industries are mostly labor intensive. Do you know more than half of Malaysia factory workers are Bangladeshi?
 
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Pretty good news for LeEco during its first-ever pre-sales
LeEco has sold nearly one million Smart TVs in September in China alone....
But it is still quite new to the indian market.
Targeting a niche market at first is a good strategy.


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Global internet and technology conglomerate, LeEco is jubilant at the response it has received for its first ever participation in the popular pre-Diwali sales by leading e-commerce platforms. LeEco breached the Rs 200 crore mark with sales of 200,000 Superphones, 1800 SuperTVs and 500+ accessories across all four platforms – LeMall.com, Flipkart, Amazon India and Snapdeal.

The company sold a total of 200,000 SuperPhones and 1800 SuperTVs across these platforms in the last five days, making many notable records. During Flipkart’s Big Billion Day Sales, LeEco was one of the best-selling brands on Flipkart owing to a huge surge in user response. LeEco’s Le 2 continued to top the popularity charts becoming the leading smartphone model on Flipkart in the price range of 10-12K, while Le Max2 became the best-seller android phone with Snapdragon 820 processor in the price range of 15-18K.

Commenting on the landmark achievement, Atul Jain, COO, Smart Electronics Business said, “This indeed is a significant achievement for us given that as a brand we are still less than a year old in India. Our users’ response is humbling and we are now in mission-mode to bring more innovative products at disruptive prices that enhance peoples’ lifestyles.

Promotional gambits like product exchange and cash back offers are undoubtedly great incentives but ultimately an Indian consumer makes his choices based on product quality and value for money propositions. Here, it is matter of immense pride that LeEco Superphones were top selling products in this entire shopping frenzy. We would also like to extend gratitude to our partners Flipkart, Amazon India and Snapdeal for their tremendous support in making this success possible.”

As part of the festive offers, LeEco extended attractive discounts and deals on its SuperPhones and SuperTVs that were undoubtedly a big draw. LeEco Superphones and SuperTVs were also available on LeMall.com during the same period with exciting deals.In the SuperPhones category, LeEco’s second generation Le 2 and Blockbuster Superphone Le 1s Ecowere its top selling products during the sales. LeEco’s recently launched Super3 X55 TV also received unprecedented user response.

Key reasons behind the overwhelming response to LeEco Superphones and SuperTVs are certainly the pre-bundled LeEco Membership Program, high-end specs and disruptive pricing.

LeEco has built a strong reputation for itself in India by bringing in cutting-edge technologies through its products that have carved a niche for themselves in the market. It will surely be interesting to witness the newer ways in which LeEco will reshape the consumer technology landscape in India, in the coming months.

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TVs and smart phones seem affordable.
How about their smart bikes which are priced 3999yuan, 5999yuan and 39999yuan ($5900)?

The LeEco Super Bike will run exclusively on AT&T’s network

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