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Diversion of US aid - Indian propaganda exposed

Extremely bad analogy - the nuclear fuel provided for civilian use stays in the reactors and has nothing to do with the Indian weapons program, its ballistic missiles or military when used in the form it is intended for --- On the other hand, a Cobra gunship, artillery, F-16 sniper pods or F-16's themselves (assuming they were provided for COIN, which they were not), rifles, ammunition, body armor, NVG's etc. are all issued to regular Pakistan Military units, not a civilian authority like the police (which is the case in your analogy of the nuclear reactor fuel).

Therefore, when these units are deployed elsewhere, the weapons they serve with, helicopters, artillery, rifles etc. all go with those units. Armies do not keep two sets of equipment - one for doing X and a copy of the same stuff for doing Y.

India's own military forces combating insurgents will use the same weapons against insurgents that they will against China and Pakistan.

A better example of your nuclear fuel analogy would be if all this equipment was issued to the Pakistani police, and the military decided to take it over and deploy it at the Eastern front.

Absurd argument really, and I am surprised you guys think it good enough to continue making it.

You are right,
IF the US wants to give weapons to Pakistan, then they have to accept that Pakistan can use it as they want.
They cant expect Pakistan to just use it when the US wants and not use it every other.

Its unreasonable to expect Pakistan not to use US weapons to fight with India.

How ever Pakistan must also use these weapons to fight terrorists.
And not just station them permanently along the border with India
Or at least not the bulk of the weapons. If the want to rotate the troops then that's ok. But they should be used to combat terrorists.

As long as that one condition is maintained then Pakistan is well within its rights ethically and legally to do what it wants with the weapons.
 
India knows there is nothing here; it is just making noises to create a stir.

It's like the Harpoon missile tempest in a teapot. Anti-Pakistan elements are trying to stir up anything they can find, hoping something will stick.

It's what you military guys call "spray and pray".
 
lol whenever some truth comes out its either a propaganda or done by indian stooges and whenever pakistan is accused of anything its gotta be a conspiracy by indian/jews/americans/martians!:lol::hitwall:.pakistan should stop playing the victim card and smell the coffee now.:coffee:
Haha you obviously have not heard the ACTUAL Musharraf interview. His words were clear, he never said anything of the sort. It was just an Indian media spin that was picked up foolishly by some international papers.


The former President said "The equipment is provided to our armed regiments. Today they are serving in Waziristan; some of them as and when needed are shifted all over Pakistan, including to the Indian border in Punjab"
 
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After watching the video IMO there is nothing wrong with what Musharaf said. He never said that US aid is exclusively diverted to strengthen position against India. He only mentioned the military aid which Pakistan got for fighting with terrorists if needed will also be used against India. Now what's wrong with that.

One have to be stupid to believe that the equipments won't be used against India. Every country would use all it's resources in war. So I find nothing wrong in that statement.
 
India knows there is nothing here; it is just making noises to create a stir.

It's like the Harpoon missile tempest in a teapot. Anti-Pakistan elements are trying to stir up anything they can find, hoping something will stick.

It's what you military guys call "spray and pray".
Agreed brother but isn't MUSH giving Indian and other PAKenemies/ enemies of mankind chances to take such advantage by staying out of Pakistani radar? IMO, no matter what, Mush should be brought back to PAK ASAP. There are more scary revelations on him becoming a security risk of PAK state since anti-PAK/Muslim states are using him to collect info regards how things get done in PAK-MILL at exchange of his sheltering.
 
US military aid not misused: Musharraf
TNN 16 September 2009, 12:08pm IST
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WASHINGTON: Former president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf on Tuesday denied saying that while he was in power, he allowed using US military aid to Pakistan's former President Pervez Musharraf said on Tuesday that US military aid was misused when he was in power.
Pakistan to strengthen its defences against India. ( Watch Video )

In a statement issued in Philadelphia, Musharraf said the issue highlighted by some Indian leaders and media was not even raised in the interview, according to Dawn website. The former president is currently in the United States on a lecture tour.

The Indian media reported on Monday that in an interview to a Pakistani television channel, Musharraf acknowledged using US military aid meant to fight the extremists to strengthen Pakistan’s defences against India.

“No question was asked regarding US funds for fighting the militants in this interview or at any other time,” he said. ‘I have never said Pakistan violated any agreement,’ the website reported.

Pakistan, he said, ‘never violated any agreement or miss-utilised US funds’ for strengthening its defences against India.

‘As far as the equipment issued to a military unit is concerned, the equipment moves wherever the unit is deployed,’ he said. ‘The US at the time was aware of what we were doing.’

US military aid not misused: Musharraf - Pakistan - World - NEWS - The Times of India
 
Lo jee another rant of Indian media... I wounder why no body is ready to listen what Musharraf said in actual in interview? Guys, Please listen complete interview and only then we can debate it.
 
Agreed brother but isn't MUSH giving Indian and other PAKenemies/ enemies of mankind chances to take such advantage by staying out of Pakistani radar? IMO, no matter what, Mush should be brought back to PAK ASAP. There are more scary revelations on him becoming a security risk of PAK state since anti-PAK/Muslim states are using him to collect info regards how things get done in PAK-MILL at exchange of his sheltering.

I don't know, man, that seems a bit paranoid.

I agree that Musharraf made mistakes while in office, but I don't think anybody doubts his patriotism. Now if you are saying that he is getting sloppy and is not as careful about what he says, maybe, but I don't think it's that bad.
 
I don't know, man, that seems a bit paranoid.

I agree that Musharraf made mistakes while in office, but I don't think anybody doubts his patriotism. Now if you are saying that he is getting sloppy and is not as careful about what he says, maybe, but I don't think it's that bad.

What I would say he is more of an army personal then being a cunning politician......
 
Indian propaganda against Pak will fall flat: FO

ISLAMABAD: Foreign Office Spokesman, Abdul Basit said Indian propaganda against Pakistan cannot succeed.

In a weekly press briefing on Thursday, he said that Indo-Pak Foreign Ministers are likely to hold talks in New York, however the date and venue for the talks is yet to be finalized; and that it may be hoped that dialogue will yield positive outcomes.

“Pakistan Foreign Minister will hold the dialogues with a positive attitude.”

Abdul Basit denied the presence of any organisation in the country called ‘Black Water’ adding that Islamabad is taking the issues of terrorism seriously.

The spokesman informed that regarding terrorism French President will soon visit the country.

When asked to comment on a letter, sent to the DG ISI of Pakistan’s Ambassador to US Husain Haqqani, and the Foreign Secretary, he replied that it is a confidential issue and he would not comment on it.

Pakistan does not agree with the term of ‘AF-PAK’, he concluded.

Indian propaganda against Pak will fall flat: FO - GEO.tv
 
Indian propaganda against Pak will fall flat: FO

Indian propaganda against Pak will fall flat: FO - GEO.tv

This is the “Season for Backtraking-Retracting Statements” :

President’s spokesman denies deal remarks


ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari backtracked on Wednesday on his reported remarks that he and ‘international guarantors’ had negotiated an ‘indemnity’ for former president Gen (retd) Pervez Musharraf that paved the way for his ‘safe exit’.

The denial of media reports filed by journalists who had attended a reception at the presidency on Monday came after the opposition raised hue and cry over the statement.

Political analysts believed that President Zardari had changed his statement because of political and international pressure.

President Zardari had spoken about the alleged deal during a chat with journalists at the iftar-dinner.

Some of them said that President Zardari had unveiled the much-debated ‘deal’ that resulted in a safe exit of Gen (retd) Musharraf, saying ‘international powers’ who had interest in the South Asian region had played a role as ‘guarantors’.

Reporter Tahir Khalil quoted the president as saying that ‘local, regional and international stakeholders were the guarantors’.

He quoted the president as saying: ‘We have talked about all stakeholders on the issue of Musharraf.’

Another reporter, Shaukat Paracha, said the reports attributed to the president were true. He quoted the president as saying: ‘All the stakeholders were guarantors.’

Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar, however, denied reports that the president had confirmed holding negotiations with international guarantors to give indemnity to Gen (retd) Musharraf.

During the iftar-cum-dinner for journalists in Islamabad on Monday, the president had remarked that political leaders and parties had held negotiations to force Gen (retd) Musharraf out of office and restore presidency to democratic forces, the spokesman said.

‘In the chat with journalists there was no mention of negotiations with so-called national or international guarantors to give immunity to Musharraf subsequent to his exit,’ he claimed.

Mr Babar said the president’s remarks about negotiations on the removal of Gen (retd) Musharraf had unfortunately been distorted and misrepresented as talks with so-called guarantors.

About the demands for Pervez Musharraf’s trial, the spokesman recalled a statement by the prime minister that it was a matter for parliament to decide.

However, analysts say that Gen (retd) Musharraf had left the country with the government’s consent.

Gen (retd) Musharraf had claimed recently that Pakistan Muslim League-N chief Nawaz Sharif had assured Saudi King Abdullah that he would not seek any action against the former president under Article 6 of the Constitution.

Observers believe that following intervention by Saudi Arabia and US, not only the government but the PML-N, too, had softened its stance against the former president.

PML-Q secretary general Mushahid Hussain saw President Zardari’s retraction as an attempt to pacify PML-N as it had submitted a privilege motion in the National Assembly against the ‘secret deal’.

He said the former president’s departure from the country was a result of a ‘deal’ between him, the government and ‘international players’. ‘Therefore no action will be taken against him under Article 6,’ he said.
 
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This is the “Season for Backtraking-Retracting Statements” :

In Musharraf's case at least there was no 'backtracking' - the video of the interview supports his statement denying the comments attributed to him by the ToI and debunks the ToI story.
 

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