Discussion: Should Pakistan create more administrative divisions for easier management?

[TheSolution]

I can see many benefits to doing this, especially having easier to manage divisions perhaps based on population size and area. This will make it a lot easier to govern, and politics could potentially be more balanced.

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[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

I can see many benefits to doing this, especially having easier to manage divisions perhaps based on population size and area. This will make it a lot easier to govern, and politics could potentially be more balanced.

Opinions? @FuturePAF @Signalian @PanzerKiel @blain2 @villageidiot @_NOBODY_ @-blitzkrieg- @R Wing

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Bad idea.

We need to abolish all provinces and have just single province Pakistan.

We should ban all languages and have single language Urdu.

We need less government not more government.

 

[epebble]

I can see many benefits to doing this, especially having easier to manage divisions perhaps based on population size and area. This will make it a lot easier to govern, and politics could potentially be more balanced.

Opinions? @FuturePAF @Signalian @PanzerKiel @blain2 @villageidiot @_NOBODY_ @-blitzkrieg- @R Wing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615349223943467009

Just breaking up into smaller pieces means nothing unless it involves devolution of power. A good model is like the EU - a Commonwealth of States that do most of the governing except shared duties like foreign policy, defense and may be monetary policy. That will also break the back of dictatorship by the military because the local government minister can't post a prayer on his twitter and call it a day's job when people are hungry.

 

[undercover JIX]

No matter how much sub divisions you do, unless ECP and process is fixed nothing will change.

 

[TheSolution]

Bad idea.

We need to abolish all provinces and have just single province Pakistan.

We should ban all languages and have single language Urdu.

We need less government nor more government.

Shut up Pajeet you don't get an opinion, this is Pakistani only

No languages will be banned. Continue speaking Pashto, Panjabi, Hindko, Pahari, Sindhi, Balochi, Koshur, etc, as you wish.

Urdu is simply a lingua franca for inter-communication and professional governance purposes.

Being bilingual or even trilingual is not uncommon for Asians in general.

No matter how much sub divisions you do, unless ECP and process is fixed nothing will change.

Of course that is a separate issue that needs addressing, but after that I think this will help easing the burden of governance and organise it better.

Create more administrative divisions so they are easier to manage and govern.

Base each one roughly on population size and area. Take the names from already existing divisions.

They can have a senator that represents each one or something similar with a presidential system.

 

[TheSolution]

Just breaking up into smaller pieces means nothing unless it involves devolution of power. A good model is like the EU - a Commonwealth of States that do most of the governing except shared duties like foreign policy, defense and may be monetary policy. That will also break the back of dictatorship by the military because the local government minister can't post a prayer on his twitter and call it a day's job when people are hungry.

A similar system to this is currently in place already, no?

But governance areas are massive so make smaller divisions makes it more organised and focused. Easier and more effective management.

 

[undercover JIX]

Shut up Pajeet you don't get an opinion, this is Pakistani only

No languages will be banned. Continue speaking Pashto, Panjabi, Hindko, Pahari, Sindhi, Balochi, Koshur, etc, as you wish.

Urdu is simply a lingua franca for inter-communication and professional governance purposes.

Being bilingual or even trilingual is not uncommon for Asians in general.


Of course that is a separate issue that needs addressing, but after that I think this will help easing the burden of governance and organise it better.

Create more administrative divisions so they are easier to manage and govern.

Base each one roughly on population size and area. Take the names from already existing divisions.

They can have a senator that represents each one or something similar with a presidential system.

I think Fixing of ECP and digitization is more urgent and critical issue, once this is done, less manpower will be used, and faster processing, almost real time results of each P Station.

Management Issue is because of manual system, which depends on humans, and human errors, which awaits for instructions to carry out duties in a certain manner.

 

[Great Janjua]

Breaking up provinces into smaller division will not help these provinces have their ethnic identity rather we should work to root out problems related to governance and the culture of corruption until then you can create billions of divisions yet nothing will change.

 

[TheSolution]

Breaking up provinces into smaller division will not help these provinces have their ethnic identity rather we should work to root out problems related to governance and the culture of corruption until then you can create billions of divisions yet nothing will change.

They can be subdivisions of the current provinces then. We can keep the current outlines as more ceremonial, while implementing this and addressing the obvious issue of nepotism, corruption and lack of meritocracy.

 

[Great Janjua]

They can be subdivisions of the current provinces then. We can keep the current outlines as more ceremonial, while implementing this and addressing the obvious issue of nepotism, corruption and lack of meritocracy.

Yes subdivision division whatever but the status quo of the actual province should not be harmed.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

No languages will be banned. Continue speaking Pashto, Panjabi, Hindko, Pahari, Sindhi, Balochi, Koshur, etc, as you wish.

Urdu is simply a lingua franca for inter-communication and professional governance purposes.

Being bilingual or even trilingual is not uncommon for Asians in general.

We need to adopt Chinese model.

 

[Signalian]

I can see many benefits to doing this, especially having easier to manage divisions perhaps based on population size and area. This will make it a lot easier to govern, and politics could potentially be more balanced.

Opinions? @FuturePAF @Signalian @PanzerKiel @blain2 @villageidiot @_NOBODY_ @-blitzkrieg- @R Wing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615349223943467009

Who exactly will manage ? A politician or an educated person with qualifications ?

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Breaking up provinces into smaller division will not help these provinces have their ethnic identity rather we should work to root out problems related to governance and the culture of corruption until then you can create billions of divisions yet nothing will change.

We need get rid of all diversity.

We need to adopt Chinese Model.

Promote Urdu as the language of the nation.

CCP united China by promoting Mandarin.

 

[TheSolution]

Who exactly will manage ? A politician or an educated person with qualifications ?

Personally I'd favour a one party system based purely on meritocracy, competent governance and productive growth.

Similar to China's model they choose someone from that district to manage it, and then promotion happens from there onwards IIRC. The structure could be tweaked to work in Pakistan's context.

But that's incredibly unlikely in Pakistan since they can't even properly organised and can't even do basic things. Much more basic things need addressing before a venture like that.

 

[Signalian]

Personally I'd favour a one party system

You need that party to stay in power for at least 10 and up to 25 years.