Discourse with Col Asad: Hindutva and Future of India

[Shehryar Ashraf]

The generals have no stomach for open conflict anymore. They are content with having the ill-equipped soldiers fight (and die, in droves) ragtag militants sporting AK-47s (now also snipers with thermal scopes). Beyond criminal to not have weaponized the angst of the Indian Muslim. Opportunities to destabilize India have never been so plentiful, and the will on this side to do so never so lacking. All points to the weakness of the leaders this country has today (both political and military). The unfortunate thing on the political front is that the policy of unending appeasement of India has never ceased there and it never would. One wonders whether the military is capable of breeding generals who took the initiative once anymore or not.

the shock of 71 has sadly traumatized military thinking. they are too afraid to start an open conflict. thats from where the doctrine shifted from an offensive one, towards hiding behind the threat of nuclear conflict.
The military,as you say, is not capable of producing competent generals. it never was though. Ayub Khan, and Yahya, cannot be considered competent by any metric. Zia was all bluster, and lost Siachen during his tenure. Should have gone to war when Khalistan was at its peak, and the americans needed pakistan to kick out the soviets from afghanistan.

 

[R Wing]

The only way to weaponize is to fix Pakistani society and economy. Western states have their fixed agenda that is 30 years ahead and unlike Russia,China & India there is no one in Pakistani state apparently smart enough to have an organized messaging machine.
PTV makes those floozy messages, ISPR does its own thing and all of the nincumpoops seem to have no idea how web psychology works.

How dare you!

Major XYZ, Col ABC, Brig 123 and Gen 0 --- with so much experience with tanks, artillery, and infantry tactics --- know everything there is to know about sophisticated influence ops and info warfare!

 

[SQ8]

How dare you!

Major XYZ, Col ABC, Brig 123 and Gen 0 --- with so much experience with tanks, artillery, and infantry tactics --- know everything there is to know about sophisticated influence ops and info warfare!

They are not created equal nor do they behave ethically all the time - a great example is DHA where some major was appointed who was passed up for promotion several times by his coursemate. In return he got a 1000yd plot at low rates (likely to sell for 8 crore). That man may still be a useless administrator and even make the lives of DHA folks miserable but the nepotism is what is really responsible for screwing this country over. Pakistani state is rife with nepotism regardless of whatever organization claims to be some beacon for it. It’s not like the US doesn’t have this but not at this scale and more importantly accountability happens - whether in 10 months or 10 years it happens.
Nothing of that sort happens in Pakistan so you have incompetent or downright corrupt criminals sitting in key government posts that end up compromising national security in the long run.

 

[Cryptic_Mafia]

Enough with the same nonsense.

India becoming less tolerant...
India not safe for minorities...
India a threat to regional peace...

The West: great, let's sell billions in weapons to them and support them against China, the main global threat to our system.

Pakistan: complaining and moaning, yet not weaponizing a single one of these apparently massive minority grievances against the BJP/Indian state into a working insurgency/armed rebellion/PTM-style "rights movement."

Pathetic. Kaan pakk gaey hein hearing the same complaints over and over and over again.

@Bleek @Pak Nationalist @SQ8

as long as safroni boys are willing to bow down to white masters like their ancestors whites will protect them we will keep shouting but nothing will change once whitys abuse hindus they will discard them!

 

[R Wing]

They are not created equal nor do they behave ethically all the time - a great example is DHA where some major was appointed who was passed up for promotion several times by his coursemate. In return he got a 1000yd plot at low rates (likely to sell for 8 crore). That man may still be a useless administrator and even make the lives of DHA folks miserable but the nepotism is what is really responsible for screwing this country over. Pakistani state is rife with nepotism regardless of whatever organization claims to be some beacon for it. It’s not like the US doesn’t have this but not at this scale and more importantly accountability happens - whether in 10 months or 10 years it happens.
Nothing of that sort happens in Pakistan so you have incompetent or downright corrupt criminals sitting in key government posts that end up compromising national security in the long run.

Yes, exactly.

Just clarifying --- I was being sarcastic in my post. The uncles don't know anything. But they have a bunch of sycophants around them (both civ and juniors in service), so they think they are high-caliber intellectuals capable of dealing with sophisticated PSYOPS.

Obviously, the proof is in the pudding. We are getting pummeled with little to show offensively.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

So, for us, there is absolutely no difference between Gandhi/Nehru/Patel and Savarkar/Golwalkar.

You forgot the main thing, the Dalit Ambedkar who converted to Buddhism along with his 3-4 lakhs followers. He wrote the Indian constitution.

The uncles don't know anything. But they have a bunch of sycophants around them (both civ and juniors in service), so they think they are high-caliber intellectuals capable of dealing with sophisticated PSYOPS.

You got it wrong. They are not incapable or incompetent. Statistically, it is not possible to have incompetent people in an organization which gets nations best talent. See China for this.
The real issue is what stops the use of capability and competence.