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Of those three are without any Abnahi bhai:
Meaning of Punjab The Punjab, called Pentapotamia by the Greeks, derives its name from two Persian words, panj (five), an aab (water, having reference to the five rivers which confer on the country).
nahi bhai:
Meaning of Punjab The Punjab, called Pentapotamia by the Greeks, derives its name from two Persian words, panj (five), an aab (water, having reference to the five rivers which confer on the country).
Punjab Online: History of Punjab
Punjab |ˈpənˌjäb, pənˈjäb|(also the Punjab )
a region of northwestern India and Pakistan, a wide, fertile plain traversed by the Indus River and the five tributaries that gave the region its name.
• a province of Pakistan; capital, Lahore.
• a state of India; capital, Chandigarh.
ORIGIN from Hindi panj ‘five’ + āb ‘waters.’
North India especially can be viewed as a continuum of village dialects. As a proverb has it, "Every two miles the water changes, every four miles the speech." Spoken dialects of more distant villages will be less and less mutually understandable and finally become simply mutually unintelligible outside the immediate region.
Local influences impact the language. The Punjabi spoken in say Multan or Jhang would be different from that in Lahore or Amritsar. Travel in the Indian Punjab and the difference between Majha & Malwa regions is perceptible.
Majha is the region comprising of what now is Amritsar, Gurdaspur on the Indian side and Narowal, Lahore & Kasur on the Pak side.
Malwa is a region of Punjab and parts of Haryana between the Sutlej and Yamuna rivers. It makes up the majority of the Indian Punjab region, consisting of 11 districts or parts of districts. The people of the region are called Malwais, and the dialect of Punjabi spoken is called Malwai.
No one region is ' purer ' than another . It depends on the loyalty of the person the Q is asked to.
Below is an illustration of the punjabi dialects based on the topography.
Aab آب in Persian means water, and many Pakistanis call zamzam water as آبِ زمزم zamzam water or water of zamzam
What's your point? All I was suggesting is that it isn't established fact that Punjab comes from Farsi considered ab is sometimes used in Hindi and ap (related to ab) is used in Sanskirt. That's not very important to the thread anyways.
It's not established fact that the term Punjab is derived from Farsi. Panj is the word for five in Punjabi and Hindi as well. Ab is not traditionally used for water in Punjabi but I've been told ab is occasionally used in Hindi and ap (similar to ab) is the Sanskirt term for water. Since Sanskirt and Farsi share a similar origin, Panj + ab = land of five rivers could have came from Hindi or Sanskirt as the New Oxford American dictionary describes.
I'm sorry for a serious objection here, as the language spoken here is not Punjabi either. It's Sarikie which are dying to have their own province on the base of their language like other provinces are on the base of language...but it is less likely that southern punjab will get its right like other province enjoying
Is it compulsory that Indian and Pakistanis have to talk on their differences
totally off topic but can anyone tell me the roots of hindko? thanks in advance
I was referring to this:
As far as I know water is called jal in Sanskrit/Hindi
Do you have a source for that? I've only been told by a Hindi speaking friend that ab is occasionally used as the term for water in Hindi so that's just speculation on my part.
Anyways, my apologies, ap is the Vedic Sanskirt term for water. In traditional Sanskirt, only the plural form apas is used.
Ap (water) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Regardless, my point is that there is no written record of Persian/Farsi speakers creating the term Punjab to my knowledge. I've never seen any historical documentation. That's why I'm suggesting that Punj could have came from the Punjabi or Hindi while ab could have came from the term ap which is originally from Vedic Sanskirt.
I'm not sure if the terms "ap" or "ab" developed independently though as ap is traced to Vedic Sanskirt and ab to Avestan. At one point, Vedic Sanskirt and Avestan were mutually intelligible.
Seraiki is usually considered a dialect of Punjabi. It definitely has influences from Sindhi though and Seraiki speakers have their own little sub-identity among Punjabis like Pothohari speakers in the north but they aren't unique enough in my opinion to be considered different people.
jal................This Forum is overflowing with Indians I am sure many will be able to shed some light on your and my post regarding the word for water in Sanskrit and Persians can confirm the word آب for water and it's origin in Persian.
It is just for zamzam that we use the word آب otherwise Pani is used for water
This Forum is overflowing with Indians I am sure many will be able to shed some light on your and my post regarding the word for water in Sanskrit and Persians can confirm the word آب for water and it's origin in Persian.
It is just for zamzam that we use the word آب otherwise Pani is used for water