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What are the chances he won't go back on his words after 3 days?
The same chances that anyone would believe if he did.
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What are the chances he won't go back on his words after 3 days?
The same chances that anyone would believe if he did.
I would rather wait 3 more days
This never makes sense to me. I am friends with mostly Persian-Americans, almost all successful and intelligent.
I also understand what ferverent Nationalism can do to the logical part of the human brain. But the level of outright refusal to believe anything other than "we good, they evil", and even the rare admission of fault by your named officials..is perplexing.
I'm not questioning your reasoning for hating the US. I'm wondering why you can't hate the US, love your homeland, but make honest assessments.
Oh well.
Didn't expect that answer, but it confirms that you are intelligent, as suspected.Pride and Prejudice
What you describe is present in every armed forces around the world....do you have any idea how many innocent people were killed by US forces in Iraq? Did anyone go to jail for that? No! Only the Abu Gharib perpetrators only 2 were sent to jail....one for 2 the other for 3. Also, look at Israel...they've got soldiers on video shooting unarmed civilians...did they ever prosecute any of them? Hell no!This never makes sense to me. I am friends with mostly Persian-Americans, almost all successful and intelligent.
I also understand what ferverent Nationalism can do to the logical part of the human brain. But the level of outright refusal to believe anything other than "we good, they evil", and even the rare admission of fault by your named officials..is perplexing.
I'm not questioning your reasoning for hating the US. I'm wondering why you can't hate the US, love your homeland, but make honest assessments.
Oh well.
Abu Gharib? Torture is the norm in the region, and barking dogs and nude humiliation was a religious humiliation, not exactly an Assad or Jordanian prison.What you describe is present in every armed forces around the world....do you have any idea how many innocent people were killed by US forces in Iraq? Did anyone go to jail for that? No! Only the Abu Gharib perpetrators only 2 were sent to jail....one for 2 the other for 3. Also, look at Israel...they've got soldiers on video shooting unarmed civilians...did they ever prosecute any of them? Hell no!
In any case Iran's armed forces are no different than all the other ones......being prideful and trigger happy is par for the course. In my opinion Iran did the right thing....they came clean and apologized after the investigation concluded what happened. No doubt the president and FM pushed for the truth, the armed forces denied any wrong doing at first....but they eventually had to admit to Rouhani what happened. Shameful that the level of professionalism is so low, by professionalism I mean leadership and training....this is first and foremost a leadership failure, then a training failure......I hope they use this tragedy as an opportunity to clean up their act.
When you take such actions such as firing missiles at U.S. bases, I hope you've got a comprehensive list of preparations before you took those actions. You draw up likely scenarios of enemy reprisal attacks. You issues NOTAM, you inform military hospitals and clinics, supply meds and blood banks and even maybe issue Marshall law to keep the public off the street....etc...etc.
Don't fool yourself, the U.S. is no longer the same U.S. that sent the Doughboys to save the Belgians from the Huns, nor the same U.S. that sent soldiers to make the world safe for democracy in the 40's. The U.S. has been behind more strife, more deaths, more suffering than any other nation since then. ISIS and Al Qaeda are U.S. handiwork....unintentional but nevertheless. Red Cross report 600,000 civilians, that's men, women and children have died due to the WMD lie and subsequent invasion.......Millions were rendered homeless....2 million people are refugees, and that's only Iraq, if you count Syria and Afghanistan, then you know who the real terrorist of the world is....So thank you for your service!Abu Gharib? Torture is the norm in the region, and barking dogs and nude humiliation was a religious humiliation, not exactly an Assad or Jordanian prison.
But to use a more appropriate example, the long lasting damage in Falluja by using Depleted Uranium tank shells makes me sick. I've seen the images, the birth defects. It was unnecessary to achieve victory, and has persistent DNA splicing consequences for civilians who were surrounded by death. It was a crime.
I can do the same breakdown for almost any relevant armed force that has engaged in combat. And I can still name more positive contributions to countries that have been taught to hate me than anyone would do for us.
This never makes sense to me. I am friends with mostly Persian-Americans, almost all successful and intelligent.
I also understand what ferverent Nationalism can do to the logical part of the human brain. But the level of outright refusal to believe anything other than "we good, they evil", and even the rare admission of fault by your named officials..is perplexing.
I'm not questioning your reasoning for hating the US. I'm wondering why you can't hate the US, love your homeland, but make honest assessments.
Oh well.
Certainly no missile fragments were found in crashing location, afterall plane has continued it's path for several kilometers.It's logic not propaganda
Finally....anyone with any brains could have connected the dots, regardless of what the video showed. I'm heartbroken. I am also angry at the level of incompetence. Lastly, I blame Mr. Pompeo and Kushner for orchestrating this tragedy upon our nation.
I was referring to the obvious hardliners here, who generally dont represent the average Iranian. But I was weeks away from a travel Visa helped by someone here before relations imploded again. (Early 2010s).Supreme Leader has said 1000 times “death to America” is in regards to the government and imperialistic policies of the United States. He has said we do not hate the US or it’s people.
So very few people in Iran truly “hate” the US. In fact it has polled as the most favorable US loving people outside of Israel.
Don't fool yourself, the U.S. is no longer the same U.S. that sent the Doughboys to save the Belgians from the Huns, nor the same U.S. that sent soldiers to make the world safe for democracy in the 40's. The U.S. has been behind more strife, more deaths, more suffering than any other nation since then. ISIS and Al Qaeda are U.S. handiwork....unintentional but nevertheless. Red Cross report 600,000 civilians, that's men, women and children have died due to the WMD lie and subsequent invasion.......Millions were rendered homeless....2 million people are refugees, and that's only Iraq, if you count Syria and Afghanistan, then you know who the real terrorist of the world is....So thank you for your service!