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the great bangladeshi Group Captain. Saiful Azam, who shot down Israeli jet on his own.
i dont know why many people call him pakistani..??
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Mate you need help, because he was fighting for the Armed Forces of Pakistan ???????
Mr. unitedpak, i dont what is so confusing to u here.
it is very simple.
either ure the dissendants of the invaders who killed ure and mine ancestors here, or ure not.
reading the history that is taught in ure books, and the mind of a average pakistani who believes that their forefathers came from outside and ruled the dirty natives here.
so would u accept here, that ghaznis and ghauris were inavders and not ure forefathers..??
if no, then u have no claim on anything historical of that soil.
so going by ure own logic, porus was also fighting for Inda. the land of his forefathers, where the hell has this pakistan come into picture here ?
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We are both, our ancestors became part of the new civilization, you will find that the famous Rajput Janjua, fought Timur, but when they converted to Islam, they helped Timur's descendant Babur to conquer South Asia.
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No because there was no such as modern india at that point, he was fighting for his Jhelum, which part of ancient and geographic Pakistan.
so u accept that your ancestors were beaten, thrashed, raped and forcefully converted by the invaders..??
then how can u glorfy such criminals who killed ure own ancestors, by naming ure weapons on thier names ?
Mr. unitedpak, i dont what is so confusing to u here.
it is very simple.
either ure the dissendants of the invaders who killed ure and mine ancestors here, or ure not.
reading the history that is taught in ure books, and the mind of a average pakistani who believes that their forefathers came from outside and ruled the dirty natives here.
so would u accept here, that ghaznis and ghauris were inavders and not ure forefathers..??
if no, then u have no claim on anything historical of that soil.
I have a question for Pakistanis, and this is meant to be honest and with no ill intentions.
What do Pakistanis consider to be THEIR history? For much of its pre-Islamic history "Pakistan" was ruled by powerful Hindu empires, like the Nandas, Mauryas, Guptas, Palas, etc.
Do you feel proud of that history, even though they were not Islamic?.
Ashoka went into Ujjain and in the ensuing battle was injured, but his generals quelled the uprising. Ashoka was treated in hiding so that loyalists of the Susima group could not harm him. He was treated by Buddhist monks and nuns. This is where he first learned the teachings of the Buddha, and it is also where he met Devi, who was his personal nurse and the daughter of a merchant from adjacent Vidisha. After recovering, he married her. It was quite unacceptable to Bindusara that one of his sons should marry a Buddhist, so he did not allow Ashoka to stay in Pataliputra but instead sent him back to Ujjain and made him the governor of Ujjain.
Ashoka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If not, when what do Pakistanis consider to be THEIR history? (I am talking pre-1947 of course)
Judging by names of Pakistani weapons, their seems to be a great affection for Central Asian/Turkic/Afghan history, even though those cultures have little in common with the native (Hindu) culture of the land now called "Pakistan".
And keep in mind that "Hindu" is not just a religious term, but more accurately a cultural term, and for three thousand years the region now called "Pakistan" has been part of the Hindu cultural sphere.
Hinduism, its religious doctrines, traditions and observances are very typical and inextricably linked to the culture and demographics of India.
Hindu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A form of Hinduism particularly different from Indian roots and traditions is practiced in Bali, Indonesia, where Hindus form 90% of the population.
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Invaders come and go. The integrate and leave. There might be some descendants of the invaders but they have never replaced any population in Pakistan. Our roots are deep in the land where we have always lived. You cannot generalise an entire nation like this. Yes, some foreigners are honoured because of what they introduced, which you have every right to protest.
I also do not appreciate when you refer to "other Pakistanis saying this or that". There are plenty of Pakistanis in this thread you can listen to and debate with.