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DHAKA, FEB 2: Bangladesh has sought more data on the upstream flow of the Barak river and its tributaries, where India plans to build a controversial dam at Tipaimukh, in its north- eastern state of Manipur, 200 km from Sylhet. The data was sought at the two-day Bangladesh-India Joint River Commission (JRC)'s sub-group meeting which concluded here on Saturday.

Sources present at the meeting said the Indian side declined to provide some data on the river flow and other technical details on security grounds.

Mir Sajjad Hossain, member of the JRC, led the Bangladesh side, while his Indian counterpart, NK Mathur, led the 10-member Indian delegation. The meeting was held at the state guesthouse, Meghna.

The meeting also discussed the possible impact of the Tipaimukh Hydroelectric Dam on the two neighbouring countries.

"We have sought more data and flow reports in the upstream of the Barak river, which flows into Bangladesh, forming the Surma and the Kushiara. The Indian side has given us some data on the proposed dam, but it was not adequate. We presented an inception report prepared by the consultant at the meeting on the Tipaimukh joint study,” Mir Sajjad Hossain told The Independent.

The meeting came up with suggestions which were accepted by both sides, he added. However, the date of the next meeting is yet to be fixed, he said, adding that it would take two more years to complete the joint study on the Tipaimukh dam.

The sources said Bangladesh wanted a guarantee from the Indian side that no infrastructure would be constructed on the upstream of the Barak river before completion of a joint study on the adverse impacts of the project.

Bangladesh has sought detailed information on the Tipaimukh dam. The Indian government has only given a report on the profit and loss from the dam project, a source said. The Bangladesh government wanted to know the rate of water to be released from the Tipaimukh dam per hour every day over a period of one year and the design of the Fulertala Barrage for withdrawing water from here.

However, India did not mention the Fulertala Barrage in their project report. It said all information cannot be given now because of security concerns. But Bangladesh has told India that it should stop all other activities before assessing the damage from the construction of the dam.

A joint statement issued by the JRC said the meeting noted that Bangladesh has engaged the Institute of Water Modelling (IWM) for mathematical modelling on all relevant aspects of the proposed dam, including the hydrologic and hydrodynamic, morphology, salinity and probable hazards. The Centre for Environmental and Geographical Information Services (CEGIS) has been assigned the task of assessing the impact on hydrology, morphology, agriculture, fisheries, navigation, livelihood, ecosystem etc. The IWM and the CEGIS presented the Technical Aspects of the Inception Reports.

The meeting held broad discussions on the technical aspects of the inception reports based on the presentations made by the two consultants. The Joint Sub-Group made few technical suggestions. Appreciating the Detailed Project Report (DPR) and Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Report handed over earlier to Bangladesh, the Bangladesh side, however, sought additional data and reports, which the Indian side took note of it, the joint statement said.

The meeting was held in a friendly and cordial atmosphere. The next meeting of the sub-group will be held in India at mutually convenient dates, it added.

The Indian government has signed a joint investment agreement on the construction of the Tipaimukh dam, along with a hydroelectric project for 1,500 megawatts of electricity, having been signed among the NHPC Ltd (National Hydroelectric Power Corporation, India’s premier hydropower company), the Manipur state government and another state enterprise, the Sutlej Jal Vidyut Nigam Ltd (SJVN) on October 22 in 2011.

The IWM of Bangladesh conducted an assessment survey on the Surma-Kushiara river systems in which it noted that a dam like the one at Tipaimukh will certainly have long and short-term effects on the morphology and the overall environment.

The presence of water resources in the Barak basin, environment, ecology, earthquake, climate change, agriculture, fisheries and socio-economic pattern would get priority while conducting the joint study after receiving the data and information from India, water resources ministry sources said.

The 163-metre high dam, which would be able to preserve 900 crore cubic metres of water, has sparked controversy in both countries over India’s failure to provide public consultations and information sharing with both the lower riparian Bangladesh and the indigenous communities in north-eastern India.

The Indian state-owned utility, the North Eastern Electric Power Corporation Ltd., (NEEPCO) originally proposed to build the dam to tame floods. But they altered the plan to generate hydro-electricity from the dam, producing 1,500 MW of power, inviting Bangladesh to participate in the project.

The estimated cost of the project is USD 200 crore and water would be preserved in 22,000 hectares.

On November 21, 2011 the foreign ministry in Dhaka urged New Delhi to share all information on the October Manipur agreement, underscoring Bangladesh’s right as “a co-riparian country”. It also stressed the “need for prior consultation before initiating any intervention on common rivers like the Barak”.

Dhaka seeks more data on river flow, Delhi says no on
 
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So india some way admitting to use Tipaimikh dam as weapon against Bangladesh. Not only livelihood of millions of Bangladeshis, environment and ecology in in Bangladesh at risk but also Bangladesh national security in jeopardy now.
 
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So india some way admitting to use Tipaimikh dam as weapon against Bangladesh. Not only livelihood of millions of Bangladeshis, environment and ecology in in Bangladesh at risk but also Bangladesh national security in jeopardy now.

I hope the dam is not used against Bangladesh, India needs to have good relations with Bangladesh and China to enhance Security in North East India. Indian Government must ignore West Bengal politicians or any other state politicians if they object any treaty with Bangladesh.
 
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Few threads back some Bangladeshis were cheerleading for India in a dam related thread with popcorn.... how about now middle finger shown on your face???

those were the sensible ones, who supported us when they thought we did a good thing.

They don't stick to a single side and bash India all the time.
 
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Indians are not dumb to stop Bangladesh water flow and worsen the illegal immigration problem.
 
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Few threads back some Bangladeshis were cheerleading for India in a dam related thread with popcorn.... how about now middle finger shown on your face???

Those dalals are wearing d*h*o*t*i on top of their head now to cover their face.

Indians are not dumb to stop Bangladesh water flow and worsen the illegal immigration problem.

They are not "dumb" but with evil intention to use Tipaimukh river dam as weapon against Bangladesh.
 
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So india some way admitting to use Tipaimikh dam as weapon against Bangladesh. Not only livelihood of millions of Bangladeshis, environment and ecology in in Bangladesh at risk but also Bangladesh national security in jeopardy now.

how come a dam will be used as a weapon against bangladesh
a dam is solely built for the purpose of generating electricity
if India is diverting any water then you should raise the issue otherwise not
if you think building a dam will affect the livelihood of people on such an extent then you are most welcome to explain this situation to our chinese counterparts who are building multiple dams on brahmaputra:pop:
 
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Those dalals are wearing d*h*o*t*i on top of their head now to cover their face.



They are not "dumb" but with evil intention to use Tipaimukh river dam as weapon against Bangladesh.

If they try to hold back your water it will not work out in their favour.
 
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So india some way admitting to use Tipaimikh dam as weapon against Bangladesh. Not only livelihood of millions of Bangladeshis, environment and ecology in in Bangladesh at risk but also Bangladesh national security in jeopardy now.

Hey did you ask water flow data from China over Brahmaputra River. :cheesy:

China is buildig multiple dams on brahmaputra. No point India BD fighting :)

The news says ''sources'' said this ''sources'' said that. There's nothing official in the report. Certainly enough for idiots to abuse Hindus though, apparently.

Brahmaputra is their second major river with huge volume of pure water coming in Bangladesh but they don't have balls to question China while they can't stop spewing their anti-India hatred for tiny rivers like Barak or Teesta.
 
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If they try to hold back your water it will not work out in their favour.

Same deception india used with Farakka dam in river padma and today millions Bangladeshis suffer from it, millions of acres of agri land and forest destroyed. We are all familiar and sufferer of indian decption and water aggression.

Hey did you ask water flow data from China over Brahmaputra River. :cheesy:

China offers Bangladesh river data for flood forecasts

(AFP)
Updated: 2006-03-13 08:34


China has offered Bangladesh "real-time data" on the upstream water flow of one of South Asia's biggest rivers in an attempt to help forecast floods in the delta nation, an official said.

"We have signed an agreement with China on sharing (data on) the water flow of the Brahmaputra which originates in China and flows entirely through Bangladesh," said Tauhidul Anwar Khan, a member of Bangladesh's Joint Rivers Commission.

"It is a big step for us to monitor the water flows of the river as the Brahmaputra contributes some 67 percent of the country's river waters and is the chief reason behind floods in the past," he said.

Under the deal, China will share data on the river's water level, rainfall in the river basin and river discharge in the north as it flows to Bangladesh via India from April 15 this year, he added.

Bangladesh gets data on the water levels of the Ganges and some other important rivers that flow from India during the rainy season but the government said it was not sufficient to make forecasts of possible floods in the country.

"The data we get from India give us only four hours' time to prepare for a flood, which is not enough to warn people or make adequate preparations. We have demanded data of the Ganges flow in the areas near the Himalayas, but they could not give us the data.""

Floods in Bangladesh, where rivers constitute 13 percent of the territory, are perennial woes for the impoverished country of 140 million people.

Bangladesh was hit by a flood in July and August in 2004 that left more than 700 people dead and 38 percent of the country under water, forcing millions to flee their homes.

The World Bank said the flood caused 2.2 billion dollars of damage, or four percent of gross domestic product.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2006-03/13/content_533479.htm
 
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Few threads back some Bangladeshis were cheerleading for India in a dam related thread with popcorn.... how about now middle finger shown on your face???

That thread was about that PARTICULAR news, this thread is about this news.

On topic: First you guys invite us to join you and then you decline us of any information-sharing. This is a huge national risk for Bangladesh. I guess India is trying too hard to get an angry west.
 
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@idune 2006 news, :rofl: What is Bangladesh's current response on the news of 3 dams on Brahmaputra.
 
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@idune 2006 news, :rofl: What is Bangladesh's current response on the news of 3 dams on Brahmaputra.

Gigaf*a*r*t is all over your face now. China already provided assurance these are flood protection dams only and Chinese assurance has credibility. So much so, Indian govt is quite satisfied with Chinese dam project and assurance.

Krishna allays fears over Chinese project

External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna on Thursday sought to allay anxiety surrounding the Chinese project to build a dam over the Brahmaputra river.

“We are very clear that this is a run-of-the-river project,” he said.

“There is no cause for alarm. It doesn't affect the downstream country,” Mr. Krishna told correspondents accompanying him from the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit in Kazakhstan.

The Hindu : News / National : Krishna allays fears over Chinese project

This topic is about Tipaimukh and other dam(s) india planning on Barak river, stick to topic and don't try to hijack the thread using China and off topic excuses.
 
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