Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi

[Luffy 500]

The solution lies with Bangladesh no doubt about that - and the solution is stop your people from crossing over into other countries illegally and take back you people who are caught.

If U Indians keep up this shameless arrogant ranting we may have to go for territorial expansion in the future. Our zootinali brothers from NE will come to their senses and aid freedom of historical muslim NE. Treat them & your muslim countrymen well as your rightful citizens if U want to avoid such consequence.

 

[kobiraaz]

What happened to the assamese people? Their forefathers and their king used to fight mighty delhi, now they are just slaves of Western India.

 

[kobiraaz]

Seriously why the Bd folks here always speak of NE like that ??I mean why would i even think of giving up my good life to become a homeless chakma??
There is not one Chakma member here in PDF while there are dozens of northeasterner wasting away time here says a lot about prosperous and happy chakmas and tribals living in BD...not even one .. only picture i have seen of chakmas of BD are those protesting for something **** .. i would rather disembowel to hang myself with my own intestine than see NE becoming part of BD..

Bangladeshi Chakmas have better things to do, they have productive life unlike us wasting time trolling!

 

[kalu_miah]

What people of North East states want is their business. Like they say here, there is no reason to think that they have any fascination to become part of Bangladesh. I think the options are:

- stay with India
- become independent as a combined independent state
- become independent as small states
- after becoming independent, they may join ASEAN

But all of this is very far into the future, when such self determination decisions and rights will be accepted international standard for democracies and people who want to secede can secede based on referendum. For India to become like that, I believe it will take at least 100 years or more, which is not in any of our life time.

Important thing to note is that, none of the options I mentioned, involve joining Bangladesh.

That said however, because of common linguistic bond and being immediate neighbors, we should always have good relationship (including trade) with them and have moral support for their popular wish.

I said the same thing in another thread, but repeating here because some of us are thinking of greater Bangla, which is unrealistic and would show us in a negative light.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

What happened to the assamese people? Their forefathers and their king used to fight mighty delhi, now they are just slaves of Western India.

Do you think those who are seeking independence are here in this forum??? Majority of the NEasterners want independence as in the last 60 years their condition just went downhill. The NE people you see here and there those who talk about remaining with India are in payroll. If any one say against that he/she will be arrested. You know it well what sort of democracy is there in India.

I think that Assamese knows difference between a forceful converter who converted you guys into a*ak**a and their own countrymen.

2.5 million ethnic assamese are converted in India alone and many tribal those who converted to Islam are in Bangladesh like many Bengali muslims are in Assam and North East.

 

[R0H1T]

Do you think those who are seeking independence are here in this forum??? Majority of the NEasterners want independence as in the last 60 years their condition just went downhill. The NE people you see here and there those who talk about remaining with India are in payroll. If any one say against that he/she will be arrested. You know it well what sort of democracy is there in India.



2.5 million ethnic assamese are converted in India alone and many tribal those who converted to Islam are in Bangladesh like many Bengali muslims are in Assam and North East.

1. No we don't you see IND has had thousands of languages & an even greater number of indigenous tribes, if everyone picked up arms & took a liking for "independence" then we'd have literally a million or so "Vatican City" states/nations here !
2. Most of the tribes/kingdoms agreed to give up sovereignty & join IND for this very reason, the thing is you cannot be an independent state on you own especially if you have a hostile state(like in the North) just next to you !
3. Don't troll here, I know its a habit from BD posters but understand this & remember it well that Hindus have never converted others forcefully(unlike Muslims & Christians) nor expanded outside of South Asia in all of our history & whatever level of bigotry you pull here won't change the facts ever !

 

[zootinali]

Do you think those who are seeking independence are here in this forum??? Majority of the NEasterners want independence as in the last 60 years their condition just went downhill. The NE people you see here and there those who talk about remaining with India are in payroll. If any one say against that he/she will be arrested. You know it well what sort of democracy is there in India.

2.5 million ethnic assamese are converted in India alone and many tribal those who converted to Islam are in Bangladesh like many Bengali muslims are in Assam and North East.

Ever wondered why with religion they gave up their language also??Because in reality Very few assamese converted to islam numbering less than a couple of thousands (a none of the tribals) , most of them live in upper assam town of sivsagar and near and around guwahati. Nobody doubt their loyalty and question them . They are as much assamese as us.Anyways nobody gives a damn to religion or cast here in NE what is more important is the culture you affiliate yourself to, this is where bengali-muslim get into trouble because what they relate to ,locates on the other side of border which is where they originally came from..

As for being on Govt.payroll we will be more than happy even if govt. pay my internet bill.I will write not comments but poetry of praise for the govt. but then we are democracy we pay our own bill

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Ever wondered why with religion they gave up their language also??Because in reality Very few assamese converted to islam numbering less than a couple of thousands (a none of the tribals) , most of them live in upper assam town of sivsagar and near and around guwahati. Nobody doubt their loyalty and question them . They are as much assamese as us.Anyways nobody gives a damn to religion or cast here in NE what is more important is the culture you affiliate yourself to, this is where bengali-muslim get into trouble because what they relate to ,locates on the other side of border which is where they originally came from..

As for being on Govt.payroll we will be more than happy even if govt. pay my internet bill.I will write not comments but poetry of praise for the govt. but then we are democracy we pay our own bill

Current 2.5 million Assamese are converted muslim and lives in Assam. This is a significant number if you do not count the bengali speaking hindus and muslims.

 

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Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi


Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi - The Times of India

TNN | Oct 21, 2012, 04.13AM IST

GUWAHATI: On a day when Union home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde visited the India-Bangladesh border in Dhubri district to review border security measures against illegal influx, chief minister Tarun Gogoi on Saturday said Bangladesh has refused to take back over 29,000 persons declared as illegal migrants by foreigners' tribunals since 1985.

Shinde, accompanied by home secretary RK Singh, visited all the riverine outposts of BSF at Sishumara in Dhubri district. The state has a riverine border of 43.23 km with Bangladesh, which cannot be fenced and is open to influx.

Gogoi said, "Bangladesh does not recognize the verdicts given by India's foreigners' tribunals. Bangladesh wants an international neutral body to verify the citizenship of these persons and only if it finds them to be Bangladesh citizens, the country is ready to take them back." Gogoi stressed on having a treaty between the two countries on the deportation issue.

"We have a very poor record of deportation of the illegal migrants from Bangladesh," added Gogoi. Giving the statistics in white paper on foreigners' issue that he released here on Saturday, Gogoi said, since 1985, 4,52,667 cases were referred to foreigners' tribunals and the now defunct IM(DT) tribunals.

"From 1985 till date, 1,85,275 cases were disposed of and among these 29,237 were declared illegal migrants. But in all these years, we have been able to deport just 2442 of them. Our deportation record is very poor," said Gogoi.

The declared foreigners are handed over to BSF for deportation. The BSF then refers them to Border Guards Bangladesh, which refers them further to Bangladesh local police. It is only after Bangladesh police verifies the antecedents of the illegal migrant waiting deportation from India, the actual deportation takes place. But the whole process is a lengthy one.

"If Bangladesh refuses to take these people, they become stateless," Gogoi's white paper stated.

Nothing moves if the cops don't get paid in BD !!!

I doubt they will provide Mr. Gogoi with any favor !!!!!!

 

[Ammyy]

some funny people still thinking about ASEAN..... lol

idiots

ASEAN nations not gonna accept people like you

 

[baajey]

now that these unfortunate ppl are stateless and no where to go, its advisable not to maltreat them. after all they are also ppl. but one cant forget that they are a big burden on our "tiny" economy (hope our economy wud become as good as bangladesh one day), so make camps to inhabit them, provide necessary survival means and use them as non skilled labourers. just keep them busy in doing something worthwhile to the society....otherwise these poor souls wud begin dreaming about those 72 virgins and start creating havoc to get them. and most important of all, dont give them the voting rights, definitely no access to madrassas ( no offence to madrassa system but we have seen wat madrassas can do to an unsuspecting society eg WAR ON TERROR). try imparting modern education to their children so that they dont have to pole vault across here and there as their proud fathers and subsequently merge them with the mainstream society.
and since these ppl have a tendency to have kids like piglets, follow china's one child policy