Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi


Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi - The Times of India

TNN | Oct 21, 2012, 04.13AM IST

GUWAHATI: On a day when Union home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde visited the India-Bangladesh border in Dhubri district to review border security measures against illegal influx, chief minister Tarun Gogoi on Saturday said Bangladesh has refused to take back over 29,000 persons declared as illegal migrants by foreigners' tribunals since 1985.

Shinde, accompanied by home secretary RK Singh, visited all the riverine outposts of BSF at Sishumara in Dhubri district. The state has a riverine border of 43.23 km with Bangladesh, which cannot be fenced and is open to influx.

Gogoi said, "Bangladesh does not recognize the verdicts given by India's foreigners' tribunals. Bangladesh wants an international neutral body to verify the citizenship of these persons and only if it finds them to be Bangladesh citizens, the country is ready to take them back." Gogoi stressed on having a treaty between the two countries on the deportation issue.

"We have a very poor record of deportation of the illegal migrants from Bangladesh," added Gogoi. Giving the statistics in white paper on foreigners' issue that he released here on Saturday, Gogoi said, since 1985, 4,52,667 cases were referred to foreigners' tribunals and the now defunct IM(DT) tribunals.

"From 1985 till date, 1,85,275 cases were disposed of and among these 29,237 were declared illegal migrants. But in all these years, we have been able to deport just 2442 of them. Our deportation record is very poor," said Gogoi.

The declared foreigners are handed over to BSF for deportation. The BSF then refers them to Border Guards Bangladesh, which refers them further to Bangladesh local police. It is only after Bangladesh police verifies the antecedents of the illegal migrant waiting deportation from India, the actual deportation takes place. But the whole process is a lengthy one.

"If Bangladesh refuses to take these people, they become stateless," Gogoi's white paper stated.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Couple of Important point:

1. Most of the trail took place without the presence of the so called illegal migrants.
2. It is not uncommon for a poor man not having up to date documents but it does not mean that he can not be a legal citizen.
3. Already there are a process of deportation and thats how 2442 people have been deported and Bangladesh took them back. But if anyone's identity can not be verified within Bangladesh definitely they wont be accepted in Bangladesh. Same thing happened also as they were not Bangladeshi citizen...but only due to harassment trial they were declared stateless...

Deportation process....

The declared foreigners are handed over to BSF for deportation. The BSF then refers them to Border Guards Bangladesh, which refers them further to Bangladesh local police. It is only after Bangladesh police verifies the antecedents of the illegal migrant waiting deportation from India, the actual deportation takes place. But the whole process is a lengthy one.

4. Even if this figure is true it actually debunked the myth of huge scale illegal migration which was put as 5 million by Advani in 1998 which was actually almost all the Bengali speaking muslims of Assam their present number is 5.8 million.

In 1985 almost .5 million which is a huge number considering the number of muslims at that time were targeted as Illegal migrants by hindu extremists and case was filed against them. So they have got only 29000 unfortunate people those who are mostly Indian citizen but may be was not able to defend them in the court properly.

 

[bhisma]

Looks like they are trapped in between two nations.. Hope it doesn't results into another mukti bahini kinda organization.. peace

 

[Ammyy]

poor people

their own nation cant feed them so they cross border but India will not gonna accept these bangladeshi

 

[kobiraaz]

poor people

their own nation cant feed them so they cross border but India will not gonna accept these bangladeshi

they are not Bangladeshi!! verdicts given by India's foreigners' tribunals doesnt count!!

 

[Kaniska]

Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi


Dhaka refused to take back 29000 infiltrators: Tarun Gogoi - The Times of India

TNN | Oct 21, 2012, 04.13AM IST

GUWAHATI: On a day when Union home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde visited the India-Bangladesh border in Dhubri district to review border security measures against illegal influx, chief minister Tarun Gogoi on Saturday said Bangladesh has refused to take back over 29,000 persons declared as illegal migrants by foreigners' tribunals since 1985.

Shinde, accompanied by home secretary RK Singh, visited all the riverine outposts of BSF at Sishumara in Dhubri district. The state has a riverine border of 43.23 km with Bangladesh, which cannot be fenced and is open to influx.

Gogoi said, "Bangladesh does not recognize the verdicts given by India's foreigners' tribunals. Bangladesh wants an international neutral body to verify the citizenship of these persons and only if it finds them to be Bangladesh citizens, the country is ready to take them back." Gogoi stressed on having a treaty between the two countries on the deportation issue.

"We have a very poor record of deportation of the illegal migrants from Bangladesh," added Gogoi. Giving the statistics in white paper on foreigners' issue that he released here on Saturday, Gogoi said, since 1985, 4,52,667 cases were referred to foreigners' tribunals and the now defunct IM(DT) tribunals.

"From 1985 till date, 1,85,275 cases were disposed of and among these 29,237 were declared illegal migrants. But in all these years, we have been able to deport just 2442 of them. Our deportation record is very poor," said Gogoi.

The declared foreigners are handed over to BSF for deportation. The BSF then refers them to Border Guards Bangladesh, which refers them further to Bangladesh local police. It is only after Bangladesh police verifies the antecedents of the illegal migrant waiting deportation from India, the actual deportation takes place. But the whole process is a lengthy one.

"If Bangladesh refuses to take these people, they become stateless," Gogoi's white paper stated.

To BD friends....I beleive that the entire issue of illegal immigration has been used as a vote bank politics by idiot Cong party....Their is nothing to blame BD...It is our GOV fault that Indian Gov has not made their ground work in International border due to which illegal immigration happens....So why to blame GOB? And most important aspect, the doggie CM is talking about 29K...So hillarious....Congress has used and encouraged illegal migration since last 20 year so that they can be in the power....Now the problem is that Muslim people in Assam has not their won political party...due to which Congress knows that anyway they will not get the vote of Muslim people...That is why of late they realized that it is time to deport illegal BD people...Such an f** party i can ever imagined...

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

To BD friends....I beleive that the entire issue of illegal immigration has been used as a vote bank politics by idiot Cong party....Their is nothing to blame BD...It is our GOV fault that Indian Gov has not made their ground work in International border due to which illegal immigration happens....So why to blame GOB? And most important aspect, the doggie CM is talking about 29K...So hillarious....Congress has used and encouraged illegal migration since last 20 year so that they can be in the power....Now the problem is that Muslim people in Assam has not their won political party...due to which Congress knows that anyway they will not get the vote of Muslim people...That is why of late they realized that it is time to deport illegal BD people...Such an f** party i can ever imagined...

In the past 20 years growth of Assam population is less then national average. So there are no question of illegal migration. Period.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

No mercy kill them all throw into Bay of bengal.

Really you are a true example of Shining India... Keep up the good work.

 

[Kaniska]

In the past 20 years growth of Assam population is less then national average. So there are no question of illegal migration. Period.

Again i cannot point fingers to you as "mera khudka sikka ( Congis party) to khotta hai)....SO you enjoy opinion...

And the biggest example of illegal immigration is that the cook in my home is illegal migrant...He cooks awesome Odiya/Bengali Food...

 

[Machete]

Really you are a true example of Shining India... Keep up the good work.

Don't speak like stupid .....India is meant for Indians if BD don't care about their people means why we have to give damn about them.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Again i cannot point fingers to you as "mera khudka sikka ( Congis party) to khotta hai)....SO you enjoy opinion...

And the biggest example of illegal immigration is that the cook in my home is illegal migrant...He cooks awesome Odiya/Bengali Food...

He is an illegal Bangladeshi muslim migrants that he is written in his head??? But on topic you cleverly by passed the point in last 20 year Assam had less growth then national average which your Congress had nothing to do.

This is interesting living in USA you are keeping an illegal Bangladeshi migrants... if it is about your Indian home then I am feeling sorry for you that you are so poor that you need to employ some illegals for less salary which he has written it in his face.

Don't speak like stupid .....India is meant for Indians if BD don't care about their people means why we have to give damn about them.

On topic when we said that India is not meant for Indian people. The people that we are talking about are Indian citizen and most of them were charged even without their presence. Why should people of Bangladesh should go to a under developed poor region like Assam which has a living standard much lower then Bangladesh???

Do you know even most of the Indian enclave people decided to get Bangladeshi citizenship leaving behind all the milk and honey???

 

[Kaniska]

He is an illegal Bangladeshi muslim migrants that he is written in his head??? But on topic you cleverly by passed the point in last 20 year Assam had less growth then national average which your Congress had nothing to do.

This is interesting living in USA you are keeping an illegal Bangladeshi migrants... if it is about your Indian home then I am feeling sorry for you that you are so poor that you need to employ some illegals for less salary which he has written it in his face.



On topic when we said that India is not meant for Indian people. The people that we are talking about are Indian citizen and most of them were charged even without their presence. Why should people of Bangladesh should go to a under developed poor region like Assam which has a living standard much lower then Bangladesh???

Do you know even most of the Indian enclave people decided to get Bangladeshi citizenship leaving behind all the milk and honey???

Mr Captain...Yes...it is not written on his head..but we inquire and being associated with my home in Bangalore for more than 7 year...of course i know about his background....And about your question....If i am in job in US...That does not mean i donot mean i donot have any home in my native place...Dude make some valid argument...And again...you might be asking that why cannot i hire a Indian cook rather than Muslim cook and that to not from my country??? Reason is simple...i donot find much cooks who can cook eastern indian food like Odiya/Bengali in Bangalore....

So please let us accept a reality...illegal migration exists..Now..again ...i donot blame neither you nor your nation...when moron people sits in my country itself...

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

I thought you from BD then realized that you came from land of pure. These above rants already tried many times by earlier madarasa products so try something novel.

Wow what a revelation!!! I am afraid now as my real identity has been exposed.

Talk rationally and with logic, proof and stat that I have done. For you not madrasa product but kindergarten level students are enough.

Mr Captain...Yes...it is not written on his head..but we inquire and being associated with my home in Bangalore for more than 7 year...of course i know about his background....And about your question....If i am in job in US...That does not mean i donot mean i donot have any home in my native place...Dude make some valid argument...And again...you might be asking that why cannot i hire a Indian cook rather than Muslim cook and that to not from my country??? Reason is simple...i donot find much cooks who can cook eastern indian food like Odiya/Bengali in Bangalore....

So please let us accept a reality...illegal migration exists..Now..again ...i donot blame neither you nor your nation...when moron people sits in my country itself...

I wont go into discussion in your kitchen as many Indian are cleaner of toilet in Dhaka ... that is not your concern.

But the real fact is in the last 2 decade population growth rate of Assam was below national average. So there are no room for illegal migration. Period.

 

[Kaniska]

Wow what a revelation!!! I am afraid now as my real identity has been exposed.

Talk rationally and with logic, proof and stat that I have done. For you not madrasa product but kindergarten level students are enough.



I wont go into discussion in your kitchen as many Indian are cleaner of toilet in Dhaka ... that is not your concern.

But the real fact is in the last 20 decade population growth rate of Assam was below national average. So there are no room for illegal migration. Period.

Of course i agree with you there are many indian nationals who are doing different kind of work in other nation...As long as they go in regular legal means...everything is fine..I donot find anything wrong with it...If you think that those guys have gone illegally then its your issue that you are not deporting them....I donot want to comment...But i donot want to happen in my country....

Guys ...i am not against people from India and BD going to each other nations...going for toilet work or reading in Madrass education....as long as they go through leagal means..everything is fine...if not ..a nation should take some steps to deport them...

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Of course i agree with you there are many indian nationals who are doing different kind of work in other nation...As long as they go in regular legal means...everything is fine..I donot find anything wrong with it...If you think that those guys have gone illegally then its your issue that you are not deporting them....I donot want to comment...But i donot want to happen in my country....

Guys ...i am not against people from India and BD going to each other nations...going for toilet work or reading in Madrass education....as long as they go through leagal means..everything is fine...if not ..a nation should take some steps to deport them...

We are not talking about your nation but some extremist hindu's rant regarding bengali muslim associating my country name and the human right violation it is doing.

We do not make around 1.5-2 million illegal Indian migrants that is here in Bangladesh. If it needs to be deported we will do it officially following administrative procedure. But wont start ranting like a cry baby which your radical hindu politicians do.

Bottom line: No trace or identity of the 29000 person have been found associated with Bangladesh thats why Bangladesh did not accept them.