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ISI involved in Indian Embassy attack: Indian NSA

NEW DELHI: India has a "fair amount" of intelligence inputs about Pakistan's involvement in the Monday's suicide attack on its Embassy in Kabul, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan said on Saturday. (Watch)

"We not only suspect but we have a fair amount of intelligence (on the involvement of Pakistan)," Narayanan told television channels when asked whether India suspects Pakistan's involvement in the attack.

"The ISI needs to be destroyed. We made this point, whenever we have had a chance, to interlocutors across the world... there might have been some tactical restraint for some time, obviously that restraint is no longer present," he said.

I know this is a "dog bites man" kinda story to us and was obviously expected but my concern is the nature of the language. Tbe bolded comments represent an acute deviation in the rhetoric coming from this Indian Govt. Recent reports of hot activity along the LoC border withstanding I hope the powers that be are aware of this.:sniper:
 
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I know this is a "dog bites man" kinda story to us and was obviously expected but my concern is the nature of the language. Tbe bolded comments represent an acute deviation in the rhetoric coming from this Indian Govt. Recent reports of hot activity along the LoC border withstanding I hope the powers that be are aware of this.:sniper:

It is a continuation of a malicious characterization of the ISI and a concerted attempt to paint it as a 'State within a State', rogue agency.

One must realize that with the widely acknowledge 'free and fair elections', there is very little overt coercive room left for the US. While Musharraf was running the country there was always the bogey of 'Musharraf the dictator, usurping the rights of Pakistanis' not doing enough.

Bashing his 'dictatorship' and 'double game' was inherently logical, what else do 'dictators' do after all?

Now, with a democratic government in place, and the realization that democracies work slowly, and that this is a war of ideas (which take a long time and continuous national discourse and democracy to evolve), not of weapons -the impatience to see immediate results is coming to the fore.

Damn social evolution, the rule of law and the constraints of democracies - pressure must be applied and demands fulfilled - hence the 'rogue ISI'. The GoP is not constrained by domestic issues, it is the ISI that is the evil bogeyman holding everyone back!

The Indians have been playing this blame game for a long time now.
 
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I know this is a "dog bites man" kinda story to us and was obviously expected but my concern is the nature of the language. Tbe bolded comments represent an acute deviation in the rhetoric coming from this Indian Govt. Recent reports of hot activity along the LoC border withstanding I hope the powers that be are aware of this.:sniper:

M K Narayanan is pissed. Oh yeah. He's positively fuming. This is real guys...no show-sha.

I have never heard such rhetoric since 2001. ISI...you've blown the fuse this time.


Here's the full text:

India says loud and clear: time to destroy ISI


New Delhi: India has “no doubt” that Pakistan's spy agency the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was involved in the bomb attack on its embassy in Kabul, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan said on Saturday.

"We not only suspect but we have a fair amount of intelligence (on Pakistan’s involvement). We have no doubt that the ISI is behind this," Narayanan told TV channels.

"The ISI needs to be destroyed. We made this point, whenever we have had a chance, to interlocutors across the world. There might have been some tactical restraint for some time (but) obviously that restraint is no longer present," said Narayanan.

"The people of this country deserve to know the facts rather than being carried away by people who make statements that these are insinuations. There are no insinuations.

"I think we need to pay back in the same coin. We are quite clear in our mind," he said. Asked who should be paid back, he replied: "Those who are responsible."

"I don't think the ISI has ever been a part of the peace process. I think we need to make a distinction between the two.”

Narayanan admitted that the dialogue between the two countries had slowed down but believed talking is better than fighting. “…in some way we haven't arrived at the decision that we should go for fight-fight so let talk-talk continue for the moment," he said.

Afghanistan has blamed a “foreign intelligence agency” for the bombing of the embassy—a veiled accusation against the ISI.

Pakistan has firmly rejected the allegations with its Foreign Minister saying he was ''baffled'' to hear people alleging that it was responsible for violence in Afghanistan.

As many as 58 people, including four Indians, were killed in the suicide bomber attack on the embassy on Monday.

India says loud and clear: time to destroy ISI
 
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ISI hasn't done squat - Narayanan can act the raving lunatic all he wants.

Please, don't insult M K Narayanan.

He is a man of few words, but when he speaks, he means every word he says.

This guy is no Asif Zardari. Take his words very seriously.
 
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Not sure if this was posted, but apparently Pakistan has been quietly making its own case against India for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan:
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Embassy bombing may be mischief
Thursday, July 10, 2008

By Hamid Mir

ISLAMABAD: Nato commanders in Afghanistan believe India and Pakistan were indirectly playing into the hands of the Taliban or some other “third force” by blaming one another for terrorist activities against each other.

Highly-placed diplomatic sources in Islamabad and Kabul have said Nato commanders and some important Western diplomats were trying their best to remove misunderstandings between the two neighbours.

Misunderstandings were created after a suicide attack on the Indian Embassy on Monday in which Indian military attache Brigadier Mehta and political councillor Venket Rao were killed along with 41 others.

Nato commanders were of the view that both Kabul and Islamabad were target of terrorists as the Islamabad police was targeted just one day before the attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul. Nato officials appreciated that Pakistan never blamed India for the Islamabad bombing but the Indian media was quick to blame Pakistan by quoting “Afghan sources”.

Diplomatic sources in Islamabad were concerned Pakistan may also blame India for any terrorist incident in future on its soil to the benefit of the Taliban and al-Qaeda. It was learnt that a few months ago, Pakistan provided some evidence of possible Indian hand in terrorist activities against Chinese engineers in Balochistan to Afghanistan and Nato officials. Pakistanis always believe that India is trying to destabilise Balochistan and Fata by indirectly helping the militants but the Afghan government always ignored these concerns.

Afghan officials were suspecting Pakistan for the killing of Brigadier Mehta because he was very active in establishing defence ties between India and Afghanistan. Brig Mehta even had a personal relationship with Afghan defence minister Abdul Rahim Wardak.

Brig Mehta, in fact, had accompanied Wardak when he visited New Delhi in April 2008 to hold discussions with his Indian counterpart AK Antony and visit Jammu and Kashmir for a first-hand look at the way the Indian Army conducted counter-insurgency operations. Mehta sent many Afghan army officers and pilots for training to India.

He recently proposed to bring more Indian paramilitary troops to Afghanistan for providing security to Indian Army engineers engaged in a road project in Nimroz province. Indian Border Roads Organization came under 30 rocket attacks in 2007 only in Nimroz. Indo-Tibetan Border Police (ITPB) have already provided 400 soldiers for guarding this project.

Four ITPB Jawans were killed on June 4 this year in a bomb attack in Nimroz. Taliban have killed and kidnapped Indian officials many times during the last three years, they have always accepted the responsibility of their attacks against the Indians but it was the first time that they did not accept the responsibility of the attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul.

Many believe that misunderstandings between Pakistan and India would be in the interest of the Taliban because they want their enemies to fight each other. The Taliban have killed more Pakistani troops in Fata than the total number of Nato troops killed in Afghanistan during the last seven years.

The Taliban know that Indians have named a road in the diplomatic enclave of Delhi as “Ahmad Shah Masood Marg” who was their biggest enemy. They also know that India never accepted their government in Kabul from 1996 to 2001. India always provided money and weapons to Ahmad Shah Masood and the Taliban still consider India as their enemy.

Different groups of the Taliban were targeting both India and Pakistan since the last few years. There were 57 suicide attacks in Pakistan in 2007 in which 658 people were killed. The first six month of 2008 had 25 suicide bombings with 332 dead.

Afghanistan had 160 suicide bombings in 2007 with 836 people dead whereas 76 bombings in the first six months of 2008 with 466 dead. There were seven suicide attacks in Afghanistan in March 2008 compared to 17 in March 2007.There was a sudden increase in the attacks in June 2008 with 17 suicide bombings compared to just seven suicide bombings in June 2007.

According to details, suicide bombings slightly increased in areas close to the Iranian border. Kandahar and Helmand are close to Pakistan while Nimroz and Farah are close to Iran. There were 15 suicide attacks in Kandahar in 2008 compared to 26 in 2007. There were 15 suicide attacks in Helmand in 2008 compared to 22 in 2007. There were only three attacks in Nimroz in 2007 but eight attacks in the first six months of 2008. Farah is close to the Iranian border and had just five suicide attacks in 2007 but this province saw six suicide attacks in 2008.

Many Defence experts believe only Taliban have the capacity to organise a suicide bombing in Kabul. They even targeted President Karzai on April 27, 2008 in Kabul during a military parade. Some political analysts fear if the Taliban were not involved in Monday’s bombing then it was a more dangerous phenomenon because deteriorating law and order situation and growing tension between India and Pakistan may provide an opportunity to some non-political players in Pakistan to once again break the fragile democracy in the country.

Many Pakistanis think the attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul was actually an attack on peace and democracy lovers in Pakistan because the real loser is Pakistan, which is being blamed for the incident despite the fact that the whole of Pakistan is still on high alert for possible suicide bombings. India could get some benefit by deploying more paramilitary troops or even regular army troops in Afghanistan in the name of “enhancing more security”.

Embassy bombing may be mischief
 
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Please, don't insult M K Narayanan.

He is a man of few words, but when he speaks, he means every word he says.

This guy is no Asif Zardari. Take his words very seriously.

Without concrete evidence, and the sort of ridiculous statements he has made, there is no respect due him.

As far as 'taking his words seriously', good thing Kiyani refused to redeploy forces away from the Eastern Front - once more it seems the Indian side is going to concoct evidence, scapegoat the ISI and perhaps pull another Parakram.

Lets not forget that the US has categorically stated that they do not believe that Pakistan was involved, and no one has shown how an agency under the control of Musharraf for almost a decade could still be a 'rogue agency' - rogue agents being an entirely different issue.

Baseless speculation and spook stories is all we get.

So once again, no I do not consider Narayanan anything better than a raving lunatic and fear monger for his statements.
 
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Why India is the new target
Saurabh Shukla with Danish Karokhel
Kabul, July 10, 2008


When India launched its woo Afghanistan campaign seven years ago after the fall of the Taliban in 2001, it knew that the road to Kabul would be perilous.

As Delhi successfully made deep inroads into Afghanistan and established a firm rapport with the Hamid Karzai Government, there were two powerful foes—the remnants of Taliban and Pakistan, both of whom were upset by the turn of events.

The Taliban was never friendly towards India and even had backed the hijacking of IC 814 to Kandahar in December 2001. Pakistan was still smarting over the loss of control over what it considered its strategic backyard and objected to India's growing influence inside its neighbour.

With the revival of the Taliban in Afghanistan, these two virulent anti-forces were out to undermine India's hold.

Last week, if Indian and Afghanistan intelligence are to be believed, the deadly suicide bomb attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul killing four Indians including two senior diplomats and 54 Afghans while injuring over 140, was masterminded by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and outsourced to the Taliban cadres being armed and funded by Islamabad.

The timing of the attack is a clear indicator of the fact that security situation in Afghanistan runs the risk of getting back to a reign of chaos and anarchy, and the regime of Karzai and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force along with the US forces have been unable to check it.

The attack seemed to be part of the well-calibrated exercise to prevent India from undertaking reconstruction projects which are aimed at bringing peace and stability to war-ravaged Afghanistan.


Pakistan had repeatedly asked the Afghan Government and even the United States to force India to shut its consulates in Afghanistan, which have been instrumental in reaching out to Afghan people.

The attack was the deadliest in Kabul since the ouster of Taliban regime in 2001, and a stern warning that Taliban was knocking on the doors of the country's capital.

The two Indian diplomats-India's Defence Attache Brigadier R.D. Mehta and Political Counsellor Venkateswara Rao-were killed when the suicide bomber who tailed their Land Cruiser to the embassy gate detonated causing maximum damage.


An eyewitness, Saleem Khan, told India Today that the blast was so powerful that it tossed one of the diplomats over the roof and blew off the embassy's gates and the outer structure.


Buildings inside the compound, some embassy vehicles, including a mobile jammer meant to guard against IEDS, were badly damaged and the mission's entire communication network was destroyed.

In fact, the Afghan Government loaned some vehicles to the Indian mission which was not left with any. "It has really been a traumatic experience, the task is much more than rebuilding the mission. We are now gearing up to meet these kind of threats," says Jayant Prasad, India's ambassador to Afghanistan.

Diplomatic sources say Afghan Government has told New Delhi that it was convinced that the attack was carried out at the behest of the Pakistani intelligence agents.

Says Hamayun Hamidzada, a spokesperson for Karzai, "Precision of the bombing, the kind of material used and the specific target, everything has the hallmarks of a particular intelligence outfit that has conducted similar attacks inside Afghanistan in the past."

The attack came close on the heels of an internal assessment sent by the Indian mission to South Block that Taliban fighters were exploiting the poor security situation in the country and there was an urgent need to beef up security for Indian installations.

A recent security assessment carried out by Delhi suggests that even though the security personnel were alert, many of them have been sent to Afghanistan without specialised training.

The officials knew the mission was a sitting duck but delayed installing a bomb shield around it because it is a rented building. The confidential report on the Indian mission accessed by India Today points to gaping holes in the security of the embassy.

While the strength of the security personnel at the mission and the ambassador's residence was required to be beefed up, only a dozen odd personnel were deployed.

The Indian envoy was provided with a jammer only after persistent pleas. Besides, the sophisticated security equipment for the chancery and the residence was denied on the grounds that the building is located on hired premises.

What has made matters worse is that the construction work of a permanent embassy building is moving at a snail's pace. Only the construction of the boundary wall could be completed in the last two years.

The report also says that the security personnel deployed in extreme cold conditions are functioning without adequate clothing for such situations.

This is the first major attack on an Indian diplomatic mission and only since the killing of diplomat Ravindra Mhatre in London in the 1980s. This is the first time that two senior diplomats have been killed.


If some armoured vehicles were deployed in time, their lives, perhaps, could have been saved. But, it is a pointer to the callous attitude of the babus in Delhi who did not wake up from their slumber when warning bells were ringing.

Though more security personnel and armoured vehicles are being sent to Kabul now to step up security, it is a little too late. Also missing is a tough resolve to fight terror.

Recently, when a proposal for covert action against some Pakistan-supported militant groups was made, the top echelons in Delhi sat over it.

The Kabul attack is yet another grim reminder that Indian interests at home and abroad will be on the terror radar. Some tough action and not mere lip service can only ward off such threats.

http://indiatoday.digitaltoday.in/i...iew&issueid=31&id=11166&Itemid=1&sectionid=36

@ Copyright 2007 India Today Group.
 
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^^^ Everything in the above article has been countered several times in this thread, it is nothing but a continuation of the speculative blame game that India has played for a long time now.

It casts shadows, in my opinion, on whether India is actually sincere about normalization and peace.
 
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Without concrete evidence, and the sort of ridiculous statements he has made, there is no respect due him.

As far as 'taking his words seriously', good thing Kiyani refused to redeploy forces away from the Western Front - once more it seems the Indian side is going to concoct evidence, scapegoat the ISI and perhaps pull another Parakram.

Nopes. His words are sharp and clear: Destroy the ISI, not Pakistan.

Pakistan has absolutely no clue what the ISI is upto.

Lets not forget that the US has categorically stated that they do not believe that Pakistan was involved, and no one has shown how an agency under the control of Musharraf for almost a decade could still be a 'rogue agency' - rogue agents being an entirely different issue.

It hardly matters. The Indian National Security Agency (NSA) believe that it has enough evidence.
Feel free to reject their statements, but remember one thing: The NSA means business.
 
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first of all, Pakistan's ISI did not create the Taliban. a normal person who claimed to have a dream, guiding him to kill a tribal who raped boys, created the Taliban.

Pakistan supported Hekmatyar, who led the Pakhtun faction of the Mujahideen against Masood who led the Tajik part. That's where the trouble starts.

Eventually the Taliban came into existence and went against both groups. The Taliban, later on, had full support from the Pakhtun faction that was once led by Hekmatyar. Hekmatyar went into hiding. Here's an excerpt from Zaid Hamid who was a part of the Mujahideen himself, I think he knows better than us.

From Indus to Oxus
Experiences, Observations and Travels in the Melting Pot of History

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So it all begins!

It was July 1991. Standing on the Afghan bank of Oxus River, in cool whispering breeze, I could see the barren grey mountains of Tajikistan on the other side. In the bright morning sunshine and beyond the muddy water of Oxus or Amo Darya, I could see the Russian watch towers piercing the skyline. They must be watching us too, I wondered.

History moved in front of my eyes like a fast forwarded tape. Though Islamic armies had first crossed Oxus around 670 AD, the region was still considered the extreme boundary of another world in the writings of the oriental Muslim historians. Oxus was Nehr, meaning the river, in Muslim history and all Muslim Central Asia was Ma wara-ul-Nehr, what lies behind the river, a description to represent the territories on the very edge of the Muslim civilization when seen from Muslim heartland in Middle East and Arabia. For centuries, armies, civilizations and ideologies have crossed the Nehr, from both sides. But after the initial conquest by Islamic armies; mostly the flow had been towards the South directed towards Afghanistan and India.

I was here because the last of the invading armies had just been pushed back across to where it came from. An event of historic proportion had occurred. The three hundred years of Russian expansion had come to a halt in Afghanistan and a process of roll back had begun. The entire central Asia was in an upheaval against their former colonisers and one after another new States were declaring independence. Now I stood on the banks of Amo Darya, watched the defeated army protecting the borders of yet another occupied land from a possible reverse invasion. But the process of retreat was irrevocable. Just to give a helping hand, I picked up my rifle; a Russian captured AK-47, aimed at the mountains beyond the river and fired. I felt a rush of adrenaline in my body as the cracking gunshot echoed across the valley. An emotional but symbolic contribution to the freedom of Ma Wara-ul-nehr. All central Asian States were in the process of declaring freedom from Soviet control. Soviet adventure in Afghanistan had turned out to be a disaster of historic proportions for Kremlin. Couple of months later on 9 September 1991, Tajikistan declared independence.

Standing in that bright morning sunshine, I reflected on the events which had brought me here. It had been a long, adventurous and treacherous journey for me to get to this point. For the last five years, I was associated with the Afghan resistance, from fighting as an ordinary foot soldier in the fiercest of battles to becoming a part time doctor, journalist, media consultant, photographer, technical assistant, propagandist and even a negotiator with Pakistan government on behalf of the resistance. My seemingly insane and adventurous travels into the killing fields of Afghanistan had taken me from Paktika in South to the extreme limits of Oxus on the border of Central Asia. I saw the making of history in the melting pot of Afghanistan. Witnessed millions of hungry and displaced refugees and vast empty spaces of wastelands which were once bustling villages and lush fields. Saw the heroic resistance of ragtag fighters and also saw the brute savagery and ruthless firepower of a modern super power. Saw many defeats and many victories, much bloodshed and many sufferings. I am a witness to epic tales of valour as well as disgusting incidents of treachery, betrayal and treason. Also saw the time when Mujahideen had actually begun to lose and also witnessed the Soviet withdrawal few years later. Had the opportunity of seeing and interacting with major Afghan Mujahideen leaders and commanders and with the brigades of Ansars, the international Muslim volunteer corps, which had come to join and assist the resistance. I also interacted with power players in Pakistan army responsible for inflicting the “death by a thousand cuts” strategy against the Soviets. I am a witness to their victories and to their failures.

My job was not done yet. There was still a long road ahead of me. Kabul was still in the hands of Communists and more important than that, Pakistan had begun to lose in Afghanistan after supporting the resistance for over a decade. Islamabad had begun to lose grip on the resistance once Russians left. Mujahideen groups which had remained somewhat contained under a loose alliance during the Soviet occupation began to pull in opposing directions once Soviets left. Personal, tribal and ethnic rivalries began to take precedence over common military threat which was now seen to be diminishing. While communist regime remained in power in Kabul and continued to survive as well, each Mujahideen group especially the two powerful ones of Hekmatyar and Ahmad Shah Masood planned independent wars to take the city ahead of the other. US interest in Afghanistan had suddenly evaporated after Soviet withdrawal and they were not willing to get involved to clean up the mess. Pakistani leadership failed to analyse the situation and was too slow to react. Arrogance, ignorance and incompetence make deadly combination of foes for any project, let alone one of this magnitude.

Hekmatyar was fully backed by Pakistan while Masood felt abandoned by Islamabad. He was bitter indeed. But Masood was a brilliant warrior and a survivor and had chalked out an independent strategy to take Kabul from North. If he could capture Kabul on his own and beat Hekmatyar to the race, Pakistan would be net loser on all counts. Also, that would irrevocably divide Afghanistan for all times to come on ethnic lines. If somehow, anyone could convince Islamabad to bring these two charismatic resistance leaders together and back both of them instead of one, Pakistan had the most brilliant chance of securing a permanent foothold in the country and also assure long term peace in this region after decades of wars and bloodshed. Masood would never listen to Pakistan ever again if he takes Kabul on his own without Islamabad’s support. I needed to get back to Pakistan urgently. I could sense a disaster in the making. My own self began to melt as the intensity of thoughts and emotions was further heated by the rising warm sun. I picked up my camera, took few parting shots, lifted my gun and slowly began to walk towards the waiting rickety Russian jeep. It was time to go home but before that I wanted to take a closer look at the defeated Soviet army. I asked Najeem Khan to drive on the Afghan bank towards the Soviet border post nearby across the Oxus River…….

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Lots of water has passed under the bridge since my last and perhaps final visit to the Oxus in the territory controlled by Ahmad Shah Masood. He did capture Kabul next year, without Islamabad’s support. Hekmatyar could never enter Kabul ever since. Few turbulent years of Masood in Kabul, gave rise to Taliban who in turn drove Masood out back to his fortress of Panjsher. Taliban emerged as wildcards in the Afghan imbroglio and took both Pakistan and Afghan Mujahideen leadership by surprise. They declared war on all former Mujahideen leaders, including Hekmatyar, Masood, Sayyaf, Rabbani, Mujaddidi and Pir Gilani for betraying the Jihad and infighting amongst themselves at a time when Pakistan was still betting on Hekmatyar. All Pakistan’s hopes were dashed finally when even Hekmatyar was defeated by Taliban and had to abandon his base in Sarobi. Taliban were not created by Pakistan as widely believed, but were creation of chaotic circumstances in post Najeebullah era in Afghanistan. Why would Pakistan create Taliban when Islamabad was still putting all their eggs in basket of Hekmatyar to dislodge Masood from Kabul? Emergence of Taliban was a serious blow to Pakistan’s retarded Afghan policy as well which was thrown into a tail spin when volatile Mullah Omar destroyed every Pakistani asset in his venom against former Afghan Jihad leadership. Pakistan was forced to engage Taliban later on but had no hand in creating them as widely perceived. Taliban were too wild and volatile to be controlled by anyone.

No Pakistani religious party including the Jamaat Islami of Pakistan, which had always supported the Afghan Jihad since 1979, had any relations with Taliban when they rose from nowhere. Jamaat still does not have any relations with Taliban though they have also abandoned Hekmatyar these days. Qazi Hussein never speaks in favour of his life long friend Hekmatyar any more, who remains in hiding in Kunar province, abandoned both by his allies in Pakistan and his patron government in Islamabad. The Deobandi clergy, which claims to be champions of Taliban cause in Pakistan, began to support Taliban after they took power in Afghanistan.

Then in 2001, Taliban too were over thrown by US, and Masood was assassinated by pro-Taliban Arabs. Afghanistan once again came under foreign occupation and they installed remnants of Masood’s men and few imported Afghans like Karzai to replace the clerical regime. Another war of resistance has begun in the country. Taliban as well as Hekmatyar have once again become resistance fighters, fighting against another foreign army and against their former allies during Soviet occupation. Now, Taliban and Hekmatyar have emerged as allies for common cause of survival. Both are angry with Pakistan. There is total chaos in the country with warlords and brigands controlling the countryside. Pakistan has emerged as the net loser in the whole episode. The pro-Masood elements controlling power in Kabul remain staunchly anti-Pakistan and have closest relations with India, Iran, US and Russia. For them, it is a blood feud now as they hold Pakistan responsible for death of Masood, when in reality Islamabad knew nothing about the Taliban/Osama plot to assassinate Masood. Afghan refugees still remain in Pakistan and have no plans to go back. Pakistan’s western borders remain insecure. Nearly a hundred thousand Pakistani troops are stationed along Afghan border fighting an array of enemies from Taliban remnants to Arab militants to local tribal sympathisers to infiltrators sent from Kabul and India. It is not just complex, it is also dirty.

My worst fears in 1991 have materialized. On my return to Pakistan, I could not convince Pakistan army to support Masood as well. They did not believe me that he had the potential to take Kabul on his own. A blunder of historic proportions. Pakistan kept betting on the wrong horse in a race which had only two horses competing. In 1992, when Masood was the defence Minister in Kabul after taking over the city under Presidency of Ustad Rabbani, I tried one more last ditch effort to bridge the communication and confidence gap between Masood and Islamabad. That failed as well after showing some signs of hope. Pakistan’s Afghan dreams were shattered and I was left heartbroken and have never gone to Afghanistan ever since.

Much has happened in Pakistan also since that time. During the 90’s, Governments came and went but there was no sense of loss or realization at the historic blunders. No government had any long term Afghan policy, nor there was any study and analysis of the debacles caused by the prejudices and incompetence of the Afghan war handlers. General Musharraf came in 1999 and inherited the Taliban legacy. Even he still does not have any defined or declared Afghan policy. It is all ad-hoc, reactive, based on daily basis doctrine of necessity. Even when there was a policy shift to finally abandon Taliban under US duress, Pakistan failed to take advantage of US desperation and its dependence upon Pakistan. The relationship was asymmetrical; in which US was the net gainer in the short term at the cost of moral, political and defence crisis for Pakistan. Taliban have now regrouped and are once again posing a real and close threat to US and its allied regime in Kabul. Soviets had nearly half a million troops in the country but could not tame it. Americans want to do the same with only 18,000 men on ground. A hopeless task to start with. It seems that it only a matter of time when situation really gets out of control for Americans too. This is continuing to date as Afghanistan continues to boil and melt in the cauldron of history with no apparent hope for future.

Within the region and in the Middle East also, there is massive turmoil and unrest. After Afghanistan, United States, UK and their allies have invaded Iraq as well and are bogged in a bloody war with the Iraqi resistance. Iran and Syria are also on the collision course with Western powers. Saudi Arabia is facing the most severe internal turmoil within its 80 years of history. The entire Muslim world from West Africa to Indonesia is undergoing another invasion from the West which is military, economic and ideological at the same time with despair, hopelessness and frustration as well as humiliation and anger enveloping the Muslim world. In the absence of dignified religious and political leadership, Muslim world is passing through a critical time where its very survival as a civilization is threatened under massive invasion from the dominant western nations. The leadership vacuum is often being filled by radicals and extremists of all caste and creed in every part of the Muslim world. Some home grown, some planted form outside by vested interests.

On the other civilizational axis, China is emerging as the main competitor for US after demise of Soviet Union, though Russia is not written off by any standards yet. The entire Asia and particularly the Muslim world have become the battle ground where major powers are competing for energy sources, trading routes, military bases and political control. India is taking a cautious view of this epic struggle and has designs of its own while other powers prepare for a showdown. Pakistan is the most powerful Muslim country but with the weakest leadership. It remains the prime target and the last hurdle in western attempts to totally over run the Muslim heartland. But it is totally surrounded by enemies from three sides, while China remaining its only ally in a pond full of alligators. A showdown of civilizations is inevitable. Pakistan is trapped in the middle of it. Just like the people of Europe in late thirties, before the start of Second World War, the world seems to be heading for another world war in not so far future or at least a war in which nuclear weapons would be freely used. The First and Second World Wars, fought with conventional weapons, killed 40 million people. The third world war would be fought with nuclear weapons and no one can predict the future.

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Today is 2008. I am almost 44 now with grey and white linings appearing in my hair and an uncontrollable waistline betraying the apparently younger appearance which I try to put up. The risk taking, troubles seeking, fiery, emotional exuberance of yesteryears have honourably given way to a comparatively mature, serious, philosophical and pondering person. I have begun to love solitude and find peace in reflecting in my inner self in the serene company of nature. I am a very satisfied person, very contented within myself and have no regrets. It is a good life God has blessed me with, both past and present. I hope, my future would be blessed as well.

But more seriously, I am beginning to feel that in a few years, I may not even be having that sharp memory which had been such a loyal friend during this adventurous and exciting lifespan. Even now, events are beginning to blur and fuzz triggering the urgency within to write what had been hidden in my soul and heart for so long spread over the last two decades. I had never maintained any organized notes during my adventures and now find it even more difficult to recollect all what has gone by. Though I still have a huge collection of photographs and many hours of video footage which does make a historical and rare archive of that turbulent era. I am sure, inshallah, what I write would be honest enough not to betray the history and that I would be guided to be wise enough not to deceive myself. I am only writing about what I have seen and experienced during my association with Afghan resistance between 1986 to 1992, the events which led to the mess what we see today in 2006. It is by no account a total history of that period nor do I claim to be a historian or an accomplished writer. I am what God has made me and accept my limitations and weaknesses though it is my desire that the experience which has been shown to me, should benefit all those who seek to make amends of the historical mistakes committed during this period. This fact makes me very concerned indeed that this nation and its pygmy leaders do not wish to learn from their errors. Did Pakistanis learn from the errors which led to the East Pakistan debacle? Why Pakistan lost Masood after cultivating and nurturing him since 1975? Was he really anti-Pakistan or a victim of vested propaganda? Who are the characters within Pakistan establishment responsible for shaping this disastrous Afghan policy of Pakistan especially in early 90’s? The players of yesteryears are still holding influence if not authority in the country today and may not like what I might have to say. Denial would be easiest of defence for them when there are no witnesses to corroborate the events in private rooms and dark alleys.

Now when the world is being re-shaped and not just the politics but even the geography of the Muslim world is being changed with direct threats to Pakistan, the historical errors committed in Afghanistan and subsequently in Pakistan could prove disastrous. What I see is not pleasant but I would rather let future make them obvious for all to see than expressing them now. Right now, I only wish to write what has gone by.

There are reasons why I could not get myself to recollect my thoughts earlier. From 1992 onwards, I was involved in a more private struggle to rebuild my life from scratch after years of nomadic wanderings and romanticism with travels, adventures and wars. I migrated from Karachi to Rawalpindi during this time and with a faithful wife to support and three loving kids to raise, it was time that I give them back their lost dad for a change. For years they had been on the knife edge due to my own passions and had taken the brunt silently and steadfastly. Financially, those were times of struggle for us. To increase the family income, I began to write on Afghanistan and some of the articles did get published in national papers. Though motive for getting them published was more selfish than serving any higher ideals, it did give me a confidence boost that my travels are publishable and readable material. The thought of writing a proper compilation had been in my mind ever since.

It has all happened in the last 22 years and to a small degree I was close enough to the events to witness them take shape. The events are still taking form rapidly as I sit back and finally decide to write. These are the observations, experiences and travels of a young man who happened to drift right into the eye of the storm and in the cauldron of history to witness some amazing events. Some painful, some heroic, some thrilling and some heart breaking but nevertheless part of the untold history.

Z. Z. Hamid
Rawalpindi.
June 2008

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Nopes. His words are sharp and clear:
Why should we take his word? Agnostic is right, if he can't back it up, his words are worthless, we don't need his wisdom right now.

Destroy the ISI, not Pakistan.

Pakistan has absolutely no clue what the ISI is upto.
no way, why would we do that? India was behind many attacks on our soil, if the ISI WAS behind the attack, it's an eye for an eye. You're dreaming, get real.


It hardly matters. The Indian National Security Agency (NSA) believe that it has enough evidence.
Feel free to reject their statements, but remember one thing: The NSA means business.
we also had evidence, does it matter? Until India stops supporting violence in our side, I don't think the ISI can be blamed for anything.
 
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Why should we take his word? Agnostic is right, if he can't back it up, his words are worthless, we don't need his wisdom right now.


no way, why would we do that? India was behind many attacks on our soil, if the ISI WAS behind the attack, it's an eye for an eye. You're dreaming, get real.

Dude, relax. You are Confused. Take a cup of coffee.

You denied Narayan's allegations in one para, and then claimed the opposite in the next one.

Pakistan is having a teeny-weeny bit of trouble reigning in its assets as of now. Some guys in the ISI are running their own agenda, and these are the results.

Zardari must be cursing his stars right about now. Poor chap.....he tried, but what to do....the damn agencies won't cooperate.
 
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Dude, relax. You are Confused. Take a cup of coffee.

You denied Narayan's allegations in one para, and then claimed the opposite in the next one.
"dude" i'm alright, you need to chill out. you've been screaming, "the ISI must be destroyed now!" besides, I never agreed with Narayan's allegations. I said if the "ISI WAS behind the attack". Emphasis on "WAS" .

Pakistan is having a teeny-weeny bit of trouble reigning in its assets as of now. Some guys in the ISI are running their own agenda, and these are the results.

Zardari must be cursing his stars right about now. Poor chap.....he tried, but what to do....the damn agencies won't cooperate.
Please do prove that the agency was behind it and please use a source that's not Indian, thanks.
 
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^^^You can't prove stuff like this. Just like you can't prove that the US created the Taliban.

Its always your word against mine.
 
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