Despite its problems, Xi’s China is a vast improvement from the past

[Zsari]

It's too early. The time point for reclaiming Taiwan should be October 1, 2049.

Xi Jingping should learn from Emperor Wen of Han, rather than Emperor Wu or Emperor Xuan of Han. He should leave Taiwan to his successor.

If everyone wants to be Emperor Wen, then there would never be an Emperor Wu.

 

[lightning F57]

Xi Jingping's greatest achievement was in anti-corruption.

Once he retires Pakistan could do with his expertise in this area.

 

[Mista]

So, Chinas development in the 40 years is like people eating junk food to you ? What is stupid comparison that is nothing but just want to put down anything Chinese and China has done is your mission.

IQ200 comprehension levels.

 

[beijingwalker]

IQ200 comprehension levels.

You still can't anwser my question, how long is "unsustainable"? 40 years so far is not enough?

 

[Mista]

You still can't anwser my question, how long is "unsustainable"? 40 years so far is not enough?

Why do I have to answer your question which makes no sense? When you say eating junk food is unsustainable, you have to give a timeline? I have already provided the reasons (from your leaders nevertheless) and the stats. The fact that China has to slow down to Poland/Malaysian levels of 4-5%+ GDP growth proves that the previous economic model was unsustainable, and has to transition to consumption-led growth.


温家宝表示，所谓不稳定，就是投资增长率过高，信贷投放过多，货币流动性过大，外贸和国际收支不平衡；所谓不平衡，就是城乡之间、地区之间、经济与社会发展之间不平衡；所谓不协调，就是一、二、三产业不协调，投资与消费之间不协调，经济增长过多的依赖于投资和外贸出口；所谓不可持续，就是中国还没能很好地解决节能降耗问题和生态环境问题。

Almost ~7x in housing loans in 9 years.

In Singapore, the annual median household income can buy you around 21.95 sqm of housing area (HDB).
In HK, the annual median household income can buy you around 1.94 sqm of housing area.
In Beijing, the annual median household income can buy you around 2.69 sqm of housing area.
In Shenzhen, the annual median household income can buy you around 1.77 sqm of housing area.

People are complaining about housing affordability everywhere in Singapore, and yet in Chinese first-tier cities housing affordability is like 10x worse. It's pretty obvious the Chinese real estate is in a huge bubble. You know it's a huge social issue when affordability is 10x worse than densely populated Singapore, and you can see why their fertility rate is only ~0.8 in the cities.

And btw, I didn't say the whole 40+ years of growth was unsustainable. These investment and household debt growth started only after the 08GFC to prop up GDP growth.

And btw, I didn't say the whole 40+ years of growth was unsustainable. These investment and household debt growth started only after the 08GFC to prop up GDP growth.

 

[etylo]

IQ200 comprehension levels.

Lol, pretend you are so dumb dont understand what you have said and what I am saying.

 

[LeGenD]

Deng Xiaoping = a visionary who made China conducive to foreign direct investment (FDI) and set the stage for Chinese growth and prosperity in the years to come. This man is arguably the greatest Chinese leader in recent history.

Xi Jinping = a visionary who focused on socioeconomic development, anti-corruption drive, and tech self-reliance.

Let's see what Xi can show in his third term.

 

[Mista]

You think Singapore is sustainable?
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Lol I saw this video last year and I am sure this guy is not from Singapore.

Here's the full unedited video. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1B24y1o7GT/

1) I can recognize my own peoples' accent. His Chinese and especially English accent is different from the typical Singaporeans accent. His accent sounds more like from HK.
2) Don't even know our most basic history which even a 7 year old kid knows. Eg; Singapore gained independence in 1965 from Malaysia, not from the UK.
3) Full of Chinese terms/PRC internet terms that we don't use. Eg; 吐槽，阿三， 二次元 etc.
4) In my whole life I have never met any Singaporean who thinks China as their motherland. And this guy, who claims to be 3rd gen Singaporean, openly claiming China as his motherland? It's like a 3rd gen American openly claiming that Europe/Africa is his motherland lmao.

Nice try. Typical conjured up 意淫 story to gain views, and it seems like he succeeded.

 

[beijingwalker]

Lol I saw this video last year and I am sure this guy is not from Singapore.

Here's the full unedited video. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1B24y1o7GT/

1) I can recognize my own peoples' accent. His Chinese and especially English accent is different from the typical Singaporeans accent. His accent sounds more like from HK.
2) Don't even know our most basic history which even a 7 year old kid knows. Eg; Singapore gained independence in 1965 from Malaysia, not from the UK.
3) Full of Chinese terms/PRC internet terms that we don't use. Eg; 吐槽，阿三， 二次元 etc.
4) In my whole life I have never met any Singaporean who thinks China as their motherland. And this guy, who claims to be 3rd gen Singaporean, openly claiming China as his motherland? It's like a 3rd gen American openly claiming that Europe/Africa is his motherland lmao.

Nice try. Typical conjured up 意淫 story to gain views, and it seems like he succeeded.

I used to have a Singaporean roommate in school, he told me Singaporeans don't like Indians and have bad slangs against them, he also tries to to teach me how to say one to ten in Fujian dialect, which I completely failed to remember. we always hung out together, eating the same Chinese food, talking about the same movies , TV dramas and celebrities, when we were together, I never felt we are from different countries, but there is another Singaporean, a girl, she only spoke English to us even we talked to her in Mandarin, we felt like I and the Singaporean guy are from the same country and that girl is a foreigner.
So I thought maybe Singaporean guys are closer to their Chinese roots while women aren't, they are more westernized.

 

[ziaulislam]

Despite its problems, Xi’s China is a vast improvement from the past​

BY STEVE KELMAN
- 04/23/23 4:00 PM ET

Attendees take a smoke break during the forum titled Chinese Modernization and the World held at The Grand Halls in Shanghai, Friday, April 21, 2023. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan)

China is an important example of a country whose prosperity and economic development were held back for hundreds of years by bad governments of various sorts, despite the high education levels and the strong work ethic of its people.

For centuries, the Chinese suffered under parasitic emperors who appropriated a large part of the county’s wealth, including a foreign dynasty run by Mongolians rather than the Chinese. After the 1911 revolution that overthrew the emperors, the country degenerated into a civil war among various predatory warlords and then, in the 40 years before the communist takeover in 1949, into a fight between the corrupt kleptocracy of Chiang Kai-shek and brutal communist revolutionaries led by Mao Zedong.

China under Mao endured brutal violence against traditional local leaders in the early 1950s, followed by Mao’s catastrophic so-called “Great Leap Forward,” in which tens of millions of people died because of a famine induced by efforts to repeal simple economic laws and drive growth based on political mobilization. Then, in the mid-1960s, Mao launched the so-called “Cultural Revolution,” which doubled down on all of Mao’s worst policies. Millions more died, often because of political violence among various factions within the Communist Party vying for power.

For all its many faults, the current Chinese government is probably the least bad they have had in memory, and this has allowed China to come into its own. The key change came in the late 1970s, very soon after Mao died, when his successor, Deng Xiaoping, broke with their Communist ideological past, essentially dismantling Maoism and allowing for the flourishing of a private economy. We should not underestimate just how difficult and courageous a move that was.

Today, as my colleague Edward Cunningham, director of Harvard Kennedy School’s China Programs, has written, “Private firms contribute approximately 60 percent of China’s GDP, 70 percent of its innovative capacity, 80 percent of urban employment and 90 percent of new jobs.”

Thanks to the private economy, China has moved from being an impoverished third-world country to one in the top half in the world GDP per capita league table — though its per-capita GDP, at around $19,000 a year, is still way behind that of Taiwan ($58,000) and Hong Kong ($62,000), and even lower than that of Malaysia ($29,000).

If you are a Chinese citizen today, you are likely to think your government is pretty good. According to a global survey on trust in government, nearly 90 percent of the Chinese respondents have trusted the government to do what is right for the last few years — first place among the 28 surveyed countries. On average, about 51 percent of respondents globally showed trust in their government. This would seem to reflect the contrast Chinese citizens make between today and the Maoist past. By contrast, only 20 percent of Americans trust the government to do what’s right almost always or most of the time.

Compared to the past, most Chinese can pursue their lives more or less as they choose, though they do need periodically to attend boring political meetings at their workplaces, and those who would want to criticize the government in public, especially in an organized way with others, risk long prison sentences. The political environment has become more restrictive under Xi Jinping compared with the more liberal years, including greater press freedom, of the early 2000s.

But for the Chinese, the most-notable change under Xi has not been increased repression but rather the significantly successful campaign against the kind of pervasive and daily corruption that characterized China in the decade or so before Xi.

While nobody would characterize public debate in China as unconstrained, readers of the wildly popular microblogging service Weibo or of the WeChat app will come across a moderately wide range of opinions on current issues, even after too-critical posts have been deleted. To be sure, a good proportion of the critical posts come from young ultra-nationalists who accuse the government of being too accommodating to the U.S.. But there are some, according to U.S. sites that monitor such posts, pro-West views online as well.

I have been amazed at the willingness of Chinese friends to post critical remarks on WeChat, though to be sure these are in English, and it is very possible that similar remarks in Chinese would be deleted or even lead to a visit from the police. I am always careful in my own posts on WeChat to avoid statements that might get friends into trouble. And there has been a recent craze among Chinese young people for what Chinese call “lying flat,” a Chinese version of what in the West would be called being a slacker. This craze hardly suggests a society where people are terrified by a totalitarian state, and it is also interesting to note that these discussions have been allowed to proceed online without censorship, though the government can hardly be wild about this trend.

I realize that my appreciation for China’s achievements, and for the role of better government in creating them, is expressing a minority viewpoint in the current climate of America’s debate on China. China’s achievement in lifting nearly 800 million people from poverty is generally grudgingly recognized at best and completely ignored at worst. We rightly note suppression of the Uyghur Muslim minority in Xinjiang, but seldom mention terrorist actions (such as the 2014 bombing of a major railroad station in southern China) by separatists in the region whose ideology bares a strong resemblance to that of ISIS.

I believe that China would do even better if it adopted more of the features of Western liberal democracy. But we should not ignore that, compared to what it has mostly been, China today isn’t half bad.

Despite its problems, Xi’s China is a vast improvement from the past

We should not ignore that, compared to what it has mostly been, China today isn’t half bad.

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1-Disrupted a system and created a monopoly in power

2-Too much aggression against minorities for no reason destroying China soft power in the world especially Muslim world

3-Too much crackdown on tech sector and un supervised bubble in real estate

Overall xi bads outweighs his goods
Especially damage to soft power will take decades to recover that's important since Africa and Asian Muslim countries are important part of new frontier

Europe and west is already ina separate corner

 

[beijingwalker]

1-Disrupted a system and created a monopoly in power

2-Too much aggression against minorities for no reason destroying China soft power in the world especially Muslim world

3-Too much crackdown on tech sector and un supervised bubble in real estate

Overall xi bads outweighs his goods
Especially damage to soft power will take decades to recover that's important since Africa and Asian Muslim countries are important part of new frontier

Europe and west is already ina separate corner

We'll see, all leaders have strengths and weaknesses, they are also humans, I don't agree with him on many issues as well, I m in education and tutoring sector and his crackdown on home tutoring left me losing a whole bunch of business and I don't agree with him on the prolonged zero covid policy.

My parents love him cause due to his crack down on corruption, my parents got a new, spacious apartement in one of the best location in Beijing, those apartments used to be secretly given to people who had connections with the government officials and my parents never dreamed that they could get a chance to have one. so when I criticize Xi for some of his policies my parents always vehmently argue back against me.

As for Xinjiaing Muslim, it's totally a lie made by the west, China cracked down on Urumqi riots in 2009，that was before Xi coming into power, back then the west was using Tibet to smear and slander China and only they only switched to Xinjiang in recent years to meet their new agenda. actually Xinjiang experienced the fastest economic growth and vast improvement of the standard of living and infrastructure buildup during Xi's tenure, last year Xinjiang's GDP per capita surpassed $10,000, a milestone that Xinjiang had never obtained in it's whole history.

 

[etylo]

1-Disrupted a system and created a monopoly in power

2-Too much aggression against minorities for no reason destroying China soft power in the world especially Muslim world

3-Too much crackdown on tech sector and un supervised bubble in real estate

Overall xi bads outweighs his goods
Especially damage to soft power will take decades to recover that's important since Africa and Asian Muslim countries are important part of new frontier

Europe and west is already ina separate corner

I think you are a typical brain washed with what feeds you from the West mainstream media.

 

[beijingwalker]

I think you are a typical brain washed with what feeds you from the West mainstream media.

Loction from US, what do you expect.

 

[Song Hong]

I used to have a Singaporean roommate in school, he told me Singaporeans don't like Indians and have bad slangs against them, he also tries to to teach me how to say one to ten in Fujian dialect, which I completely failed to remember. we always hung out together, eating the same Chinese food, talking about the same movies , TV dramas and celebrities, when we were together, I never felt we are from different countries, but there is another Singaporean, a girl, she only spoke English to us even we talked to her in Mandarin, we felt like I and the Singaporean guy are from the same country and that girl is a foreigner.
So I thought maybe Singaporean guys are closer to their Chinese roots while women aren't, they are more westernized.

It depends what kind of Chinese Singapore you met.

The PAP was in reality an ally of Peranakan Chinese, Indians and Malays who seize power from pure Chinese. The Peranakan prefers Indians against Chinese.

The Peranakan has extremely schizophrenic mindset and worship the white.

Over the years, Singapore manage to brainwash most real Chinese into white worshipper and peranakanism. That is why you see in PDF a lot of Singaporean Chinese hate China.

 

[ziaulislam]

I think you are a typical brain washed with what feeds you from the West mainstream media.

Not really I simply spoke to lot of Chinese
Development has came to those regions at a cost of freedom and civilization

Regardless does it matter what I think???
What matters is what people in Muslim world think and we know what they think