Demolition of Madina Masjid, Tariq Road on Encroached Land!!

[ziaulislam]

Yes the Mosque is illegal but in the common law there’s a principle of squatter’s rights.

If the person unlawfully occupying the land can show that he’s not only taking care of it but has improved it from the original state he may be entitled to entire the land itself or compensation in kind.

Only if he has occupied this land for over seven years and the original owner is either missing or has abandoned the property.

A law commonly used to occupy poor families land..made by british people

 

[Imran Khan]

All three vices are very much prevalent in the army as well

which army ?

 

[Flight of falcon]

which army ?

He is talking about his Indian army .

 

[Hussain93]

Jews, their allies and their followers are the enemies of the House of Allah.

These dirty lots and their claim and all their talk is like that of kafirs , mullah this mullah that, religioun private matter because they want to fornicate and have their sharabi lifestyle protected .Their everything matches kafirs but hey its molvis who dont know islam!

 

[Zibago]

the narrow mind mullah cant see beyond bacha baazi /haram khori / and land grabbing

You have people threatening to burn trucks over QR codes

 

[Imran Khan]

You have people threatening to burn trucks over QR codes

wo to special case tha bhai

 

[Zibago]

These dirty lots and their claim and all their talk is like that of kafirs , mullah this mullah that, religioun private matter because they want to fornicate and have their sharabi lifestyle protected .Their everything matches kafirs but hey its molvis who dont know islam!

To bhai bata do kis kafir ney kaha tha park par masjid khari karo aur ye masla sirf Karachi ka nahi purey Pakistan mein lang grabbing ka sab sey asan tareka hy
Yahan Islamabad mein kayi corner plots par madrason ka qabza hy jo us key khilaf boley wo Islam sey kharij

wo to special case tha bhai

Ye sab hi special hein

 

[El Sidd]

Nahi yahan langrey apna program karein gay

why do you make fun of health disabilities? is cheering for mosque deconstruction not enough that you want to make fun of disabled handicapped people?

you are a grade 17 public servant aren't you?

 

[imadul]

mosque in islam is not what mullahs have made it . any place can be mosque . muslims can pray anywhere . only few most holy mosques are unreplaceable unchangable and can not be relocate . rest every mosque can be relocate can be demolished and can be use for even other propuse . but *** our mosques are ROZI ROTI of mullah gang so they make is most sacred place call it shaeed and so on . while we can see even in saudi arabia and other muslim countries they demolish mosque when its came in roads or any project no one even talk on it .

translate in arabic

demolition of mosque at qatif and um alhamam road dammam KSA for expansion of road . do you see mullah gang ?

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ar.hawzahnews.com

egypt demolished these illegal mosques on gov land
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demolition of mosque in dumiyaat egypt for underpass for railway crossing
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Al-Saud spank them hard and kingdom has an iron hand. In Pakistan breaking law is rewarded.

 

[Zibago]

why do you make fun of health disabilities

is cheering for mosque deconstruction not enough that you want to make fun of disabled handicapped people?

aren't

 

[Imran Khan]

Al-Saud spank them hard and kingdom has an iron hand. In Pakistan breaking law is rewarded.

sir search in arabi ازالة المسجد you will find results from almost every arab country . but here molvis are haram khor want to grab land in middle of cities and live free on public money . even elite person will have hard to buy this much big land on tariq road this land is worth billions but a mullah can grab it .

 

[imadul]

These dirty lots and their claim and all their talk is like that of kafirs , mullah this mullah that, religioun private matter because they want to fornicate and have their sharabi lifestyle protected .Their everything matches kafirs but hey its molvis who dont know islam!

Nobody said Mullah bad. Some people use bad language in this forum...and that's need to be regulated.
But is there a ruling that calling Mullah/Molvi bad makes them Kafir?
Would you watch your extreme views and words?

 

[CriticalThought]

So it seems like there is a liberal lobby which is always waiting to jump on any incident to tarnish the image of Islam, Muslims, and Ulema. Here is the explanation by Mufti Tariq Masood Damat Barakatuhul 'Aalia

1. If the Masjid had been constructed on a personal property, then it would be wajib to demolish that mosque. As a matter of fact, it would not be Jaiz (permissible) to even pray in that mosque.
2. Park belongs to the public.
3. Now, first of all, within the government's urban planning, no space is allocated for mosques, ever. Most mosques are constructed on spaces allocated for parks, hospitals, schools. This is incompetence of the government. The government has not allocated spaces for mosques in proportion to population.
4. So the park was for the public. But the public constructed a mosque there and is giving importance to the mosque instead of the park. The public knows there are a number of parks and recreational spaces that exist already. Also, an individual would use the park just once a day, whereas the mosque is needed 5 times a day. When the government does not provide space for a mosque, then people will construct it on the space allocated for the park.
5. If this was something illegal, why has this matter been left for 25 years? You could have demolished it after one month, two or three months.
6. Demolishing the mosque shows a lack of God Fearliness. In the minds of people, this space is now associated with mosque and praying. When these people see the park after the mosque is demolished, would they not be reminded of the Azans coming from this place, the prayers that were conducted there? How could a devout Muslim perform recreational activities there?
7. Let us see what is the meaning of Masjid. It means to transfer something from one's ownership into the Ownership of Allah the Almighty. Thus, Ulema are unified on the point that once a space has been designated for a mosque, it remains a mosque until the Day of Judgement, because you have given it into the Ownership of Allah and you cannot reclaim its ownership. Even the person who has dedicated the space cannot reclaim it. So this is not an enmity with Molvis, this is an enmity with Allah the Almighty Himself.
8. It is to be noted that in other countries 'government property' is actually called 'public property'. But we use the term 'government property'. These terms matter. They create an image that the government is now the sole and independent owner. The government owns nothing. What belongs to the government is actually the property of the public. The government has not right to intrude on public property.
9. This same tragedy befell Nasla Tower. People have been living there for such a long time. The Mufti Sahib says that the owner attends his Bayans and he told him that this is a great injustice because all documents of this tower were completed. He says it is impossible for a builder to build anything before legalizing it. Your law is so complicated that even after a building is constructed and 15, 20, or even 30 years have passed, anyone can bring up some paper and initiate legal proceedings against it. The builder was saying that we are demolishing the building as instructed, but the government needs to tell us from whom we should obtain permission for any other construction? In the current system, one officer can sign the papers but if he gets transferred and someone else comes in, he can deny the legality given by the previous one. Now since the government is at fault for the delay, the court should have ordered the government to pay damages to the owners and the builder before the building is demolished. He says I am proposing payment of damages before demolition because there is no guarantee the government will actually pay the damages.
10. If this was a case of illegal encroachment upon a public road etc, we would have supported the removal of the encroachment by the mosque.

 

[imadul]

sir search in arabi ازالة المسجد you will find results from almost every arab country . but here molvis are haram khor want to grab land in middle of cities and live free on public money . even elite person will have hard to buy this much big land on tariq road this land is worth billions but a mullah can grab it .

We need a strong government, one that does not compromise on law. ATM, PTI is just too weak.
In the case for this Masjid at Tariq rd, sind administration has demolished all other illegal construction but this SACRED PLACE as a reminder who calls the shot.
Now Mujahid-Islam investigative reporter Ansar Abbasi has come for the defense.
ایسے ایسے دانے ہمارے پاس ہیں۔

So it seems like there is a liberal lobby which is always waiting to jump on any incident to tarnish the image of Islam, Muslims, and Ulema. Here is the explanation by Mufti Tariq Masood Damat Barakatuhul 'Aalia

1. If the Masjid had been constructed on a personal property, then it would be wajib to demolish that mosque. As a matter of fact, it would not be Jaiz (permissible) to even pray in that mosque.
2. Park belongs to the public.
3. Now, first of all, within the government's urban planning, no space is allocated for mosques, ever. Most mosques are constructed on spaces allocated for parks, hospitals, schools. This is incompetence of the government. The government has not allocated spaces for mosques in proportion to population.
4. So the park was for the public. But the public constructed a mosque there and is giving importance to the mosque instead of the park. The public knows there are a number of parks and recreational spaces that exist already. Also, an individual would use the park just once a day, whereas the mosque is needed 5 times a day. When the government does not
provide space for a mosque, then people will construct it on the space allocated for the park.
5. if this was something illegal, why has this matter been left for 25 years? You could have demolished it after one month, two or three months.
6. Demolishing the mosque shows a lack of God Fearliness. In the minds of people, this space is now associated with mosque and praying. When these people see the park after the mosque is demolished, would they not be reminded of the Azans coming from this place, the prayers that were conducted there? How could a devout Muslim perform recreational activities there?
7. Let us see what is the meaning of Masjid. It means to transfer something from one's ownership into the Ownership of Allah the Almighty. Thus, Ulema are unified on the point that once a space has been designated for a mosque, it remains a mosque until the Day of Judgement, because you have given it into the Ownership of Allah and you cannot reclaim its ownership. Even the person who has dedicated the space cannot reclaim it. So this is not an enmity with Molvis, this is an enmity with Allah the Almighty Himself.
8. It is to be noted that in other countries 'government property' is actually called 'public property'. But we use the term 'government property'. These terms matter. They create an image that the government is now the sole and independent owner. The government owns nothing. What belongs to the government is actually the property of the public. The government has not right to intrude on public property.
9. This same tragedy befell Nasla Tower. People have been living there for such a long time. The Mufti Sahib says that the owner attends his Bayans and he told him that this is a great injustice because all documents of this tower were completed. He says it is impossible for a builder to build anything before legalizing it. Your law is so complicated that even after a building is constructed and 15, 20, or even 30 years have passed, anyone can bring up some paper and initiate legal proceedings against it. The builder was saying that we are demolishing the building as instructed, but the government needs to tell us from whom we should obtain permission for any other construction? In the current system, one office can sign the papers but if he gets transferred and someone else comes in, he can deny the legality given by the previous one. Now since the government is at fault for the delay, the court should have ordered the government to pay damages to the owners and the builder before the building is demolished. He says I am proposing payment of damages before demolition because there is no guarantee the government will actually pay the damages.
10. If this was a case of illegal encroachment upon a public road etc, we would have supported the removal of the encroachment by the mosque.

A place like masjid should never be put on an illegal land to start with.
A place of worship should be totally free from any illegitimacy.
تیرا امام بے حضور، تیری نماز بے سُرور
ایسی نماز سے گزر، ایسے امام سے گزر!

 

[Maula Jatt]

So it seems like there is a liberal lobby which is always waiting to jump on any incident to tarnish the image of Islam, Muslims, and Ulema. Here is the explanation by Mufti Tariq Masood Damat Barakatuhul 'Aalia

1. If the Masjid had been constructed on a personal property, then it would be wajib to demolish that mosque. As a matter of fact, it would not be Jaiz (permissible) to even pray in that mosque.
2. Park belongs to the public.
3. Now, first of all, within the government's urban planning, no space is allocated for mosques, ever. Most mosques are constructed on spaces allocated for parks, hospitals, schools. This is incompetence of the government. The government has not allocated spaces for mosques in proportion to population.
4. So the park was for the public. But the public constructed a mosque there and is giving importance to the mosque instead of the park. The public knows there are a number of parks and recreational spaces that exist already. Also, an individual would use the park just once a day, whereas the mosque is needed 5 times a day. When the government does not
provide space for a mosque, then people will construct it on the space allocated for the park.
5. if this was something illegal, why has this matter been left for 25 years? You could have demolished it after one month, two or three months.
6. Demolishing the mosque shows a lack of God Fearliness. In the minds of people, this space is now associated with mosque and praying. When these people see the park after the mosque is demolished, would they not be reminded of the Azans coming from this place, the prayers that were conducted there? How could a devout Muslim perform recreational activities there?
7. Let us see what is the meaning of Masjid. It means to transfer something from one's ownership into the Ownership of Allah the Almighty. Thus, Ulema are unified on the point that once a space has been designated for a mosque, it remains a mosque until the Day of Judgement, because you have given it into the Ownership of Allah and you cannot reclaim its ownership. Even the person who has dedicated the space cannot reclaim it. So this is not an enmity with Molvis, this is an enmity with Allah the Almighty Himself.
8. It is to be noted that in other countries 'government property' is actually called 'public property'. But we use the term 'government property'. These terms matter. They create an image that the government is now the sole and independent owner. The government owns nothing. What belongs to the government is actually the property of the public. The government has not right to intrude on public property.
9. This same tragedy befell Nasla Tower. People have been living there for such a long time. The Mufti Sahib says that the owner attends his Bayans and he told him that this is a great injustice because all documents of this tower were completed. He says it is impossible for a builder to build anything before legalizing it. Your law is so complicated that even after a building is constructed and 15, 20, or even 30 years have passed, anyone can bring up some paper and initiate legal proceedings against it. The builder was saying that we are demolishing the building as instructed, but the government needs to tell us from whom we should obtain permission for any other construction? In the current system, one office can sign the papers but if he gets transferred and someone else comes in, he can deny the legality given by the previous one. Now since the government is at fault for the delay, the court should have ordered the government to pay damages to the owners and the builder before the building is demolished. He says I am proposing payment of damages before demolition because there is no guarantee the government will actually pay the damages.
10. If this was a case of illegal encroachment upon a public road etc, we would have supported the removal of the encroachment by the mosque.

very problematic view especially in modern world
I wonder if all the ullemas are "united" in this
why is Egypt a Salafist country demolishing mosque (and hopefully replacing it somewhere else) to build infrastructure, hell frickin Wahhabi Saudi probably did it when they revamped the old cities

So looking at examples world over, I don't think ullemas are as "united" as you think, this is a very extremist kind of a thought process and not a critical one
there's no way any kind of infrastructure can be build if we follow your ruling especially in old cities with large Muslim populace