Democracy in China? It's in the eye of the beholder.

[TISSOT]

I honestly don't care.

Act like you don't care, like I don't care what system Indians like to adopt.

You just told me to act like I din't care. What does that involve ?

So, the mistake about policy made by indian government is your leader's individual mistake? you are just bystander to learn from your leader, very funny, hehe, but as your logic, can I understand that, you leader can make more mistakes than that in China?

And why and what you should learn from them? the purpose?

I don't know if Indian leaders have made more or less mistakes than China. It does not matter to me or any Indian.

What matters to us is the choice and freedom we have in correcting that mistake.

As to why and what we learn from the mistakes, we learn to not not repeat them, make new ones and the purpose is to evolve into a more mature and stronger society and civilization.

 

[beijingwalker]

You just told me to act like I din't care. What does that involve ?
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What do you want prove here,? Chinese people are wrong? Should not think that way?This report is not about India and you are showing here lecturing Chinese on democracy is really absurd.

 

[TISSOT]

What do you want prove here,? Chinese people are wrong? Should not think that way?This report is not about India and you are showing here lecturing Chinese on democracy is really absurd.

I don't want to prove a damn thing.

I wanted to have an open discussion on democracy and Chinese people's opinion on it.

What I call discussing, is what you call "lecturing". Discussing is part of individual freedom, lecturing is what a Master does to students who have no freedom.

Its funny that you would think I was lecturing.

 

[beijingwalker]

I don't want to prove a damn thing.

I wanted to have an open discussion on democracy and chinese people's opinion on it.

What I call discussing, is what you call "lecturing". Discussing is part of individual freedom, lecturing is what a Master does to students who have no freedom.

Its funny that you would think I was lecturing.

Tell me why Chinese don't care about India's political system and we act exactly the way we say, and Indians always love to talk about our system and claim they don't care. Most Chinese are happy with our system was proven by many international polls. What's you point arguing here, it's not a system you have to live in.

 

[sweetgrape]

I don't know if Indian leaders have made more or less mistakes than china. It does not matter to me or any Indian.

What matters to us is the choice and freedom we have in correcting that mistake.

As to why and what we learn from the mistakes, we learn to not not repeat them, make new ones and the purpose is to evolve into a more mature and stronger society and civilization.

Can I understand this is kind of disorder you mentioned?

You said you want learn from you leader, right? do you know, where we can learn from is failure, to learn more, you should select the worse incompetent leader, they can make more mistake, by you logic, it is better.

Another logic, you don't want to repeat them, so, next leader, you don't want a leader that repeat the previous mistake? can I understand you need a better leader one by one? for less disorder? I am very confused what kind of leader you want? very contradictory comments you made.

 

[TISSOT]

Tell me why Chinese don't care about India's political system and we act exactly the way we say, and Indians always love to talk about our system and claim they don't care. Most Chinese are happy with our system was proven by many international polls. What's you point arguing here, it's not a system you have to live in.

The point of any discussing is expanding our understanding of the world we live in.

If chinese are not interested in understanding Indian political system, its their problem. Indians have the freedom to pursue any line of inquiry and debate to understand better.

It has nothing to do with Chinese happiness or unhappiness. IT has everything to do with our own spirit of inquiry.

 

[Jlaw]

What the f**k are u talking about? Have u even done any research before even babbling any nonsense?

Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is the official ideology of the Chinese Communist Party of China- and this 'Chinese Characteristics' refers fo Meritocracy in political governance and State Capitalism as the centrepiece of its economic model.

No such principles exist in the concept of 'western Communism' you've been emphasing on. So how is China trying not to be west?



Hahahaha i'd rather not be able to express myself as n when i like it- n get to live life comfortably(just like here in Singapore).

Come on, so easy to tell your end statement is:

India's democracy is superior to an oppresive regime like China's.

thanks, but no thanks to chaotic and anarchic indian style democracy.

Indians love democracy so much they are leaving their flea and poo infested geographical expression India like no tomorrow. they lie and even do fake marriage with their first cousins to come over to Canada. in many instances they even had a baby with their first cousin to prove they are real marriage

 

[TISSOT]

Did I say you care? you think that's point, can you tell me your purpose bring up the tibetan refugee in indan? what do you want to show? but refuse to understand the comparision between you and USA by the number of tibetan refugee, hehe

THe purpose was to prove factually that more Chinese desire to live in INdia than INdians desire to live in China.

 

[beijingwalker]

THe purpose was to prove factually that more chinese desire to live in INdia than INdians desire to live in China.

I wish there is nationwide poll on this .lol

 

[Jlaw]

I agree with the bold part. Yes, with each right and freedom you give someone, he'll wonder if there are more and how can he get more. The problem is, how far that he wants to, and how far that we allowed him to get. Even in America, which is popular with their freedom, there's still limitation. Nobody can get all free, because it means anarchy. The key here is how to balance restriction and freedom.

I think, what Chinese need is not a free election system. But more of good and clean government. Democracy is not only about we choose a new popular president, like Trump, or Obama, or Bush. But more about how the people can ensure that the government doesn't betray the people's trust. So it's more of a strong and independent law enforcement and a good government watcher that the Chinese need. This way, no corrupt president or prime minister can use their power to steal the people money and do whatever they want to enrich themselves.

Does PRC has them already? I doubt it.

lol, go take your Indonesia first Chinese second and go love yourself

 

[TISSOT]

Can I understand this is kind of disorder you mentioned?

You said you want learn from you leader, right? do you know, where we can learn from is failure, to learn more, you should select the worse incompetent leader, they can make more mistake, by you logic, it is better.

Another logic, you don't want to repeat them, so, next leader, you don't want a leader that repeat the previous mistake? can I understand you need a better leader one by one? for less disorder? I am very confused what kind of leader you want? very contradictory comments you made.

You mentioned the disorder. I just explained it in the context of democracy.

I said we learn from the system, from the mistake, not from the leader.

Experimentation is good, exploration is good, and that logic is sound.

WE want the best leader available and the freedom to choose him or reject him. No contradiction there.

I wish there is nationwide poll on this .lol

What is the point when people have voted with their feet ?

 

[beijingwalker]

You mentioned the disorder. I just explained it in the context of democracy.

I said we learn from the system, from the mistake, not from the leader.

Experimentation is good, exploration is good, and that logic is sound.

WE want the best leader available and the freedom to choose him or reject him. No contradiction there.



What is the point when people have voted with their feet ?

We don't bother, we enjoy our live around the world. Sorry, that's Chinese.

It's like you love chicken and I love fish, you may have 1000 reasons that why chicken is more delicious than fish, but I don't give a damn and still love my fish.

 

[sweetgrape]

THe purpose was to prove factually that more chinese desire to live in INdia than INdians desire to live in China.

Hehe, very cool logic. you want such kind of refugee, we don't stop them, but in fact, whether we will accept huge indian live in China, this is another thing, it is doesn't matter, for you, the important thing is you can delude yourself

Maybe offend you, there are more rapist in india, by your logic, these guys also more desire to live in india, but not China, also indicate something you mentioned.

You mentioned the disorder. I just explained it in the context of democracy.

I said we learn from the system, from the mistake, not from the leader.

Experimentation is good, exploration is good, and that logic is sound.

WE want the best leader available and the freedom to choose him or reject him. No contradiction there.

Sorry, not me first mentioned the disorder.

I am curious, you kind of indian really can learn from you leader? and don't repeat the same mistake? I am very doubting that, doesn't matter, you can enjoy your so-called democracy, that's your freedom, can image what we chinese and China are, and you are better destination for human than China, your freedom.

BTW, not only you can learn from your leader, we also can, hope you can make "greater" contribution to human progress, mistake can enhance people more than success, but we will avoid mistaking to the greatest extent, maybe can't escape it completely, any mistake made by leader will be magnified to the state and people, we know that, it is not privilege of democratic countries.

 

[beijingwalker]

I couldn't care less what political system Indians like to adopt and I really mean it, I only care what brings China and the Chinese people the best.

 

[WhyCry]

I couldn't care less what political system Indians like to adopt and I really mean it, I only care what brings China and the Chinese people the best.

I agree with you on all of it. But you needs some parameters to establish those.