Democracy in China? It's in the eye of the beholder.

[ashok mourya]

North Korea,China,Saudi Arab,Islamic state all have same thought of rule...my way or highway

 

[Nan Yang]

Mao gave his whole life for the poor people. That is why Mao still gives inspiration to the most downtrodden and poor.

What India needs is a Mao like revolution to liberate it's poor peasants and women and get rid of that caste and dowry culture.

 

[beijingwalker]

North Korea,China,Saudi Arab,Islamic state all have same thought of rule...my way or highway

That's US, see what US has been doing all around the world if it didn't get its way. Wars and killings.

 

[T-123456]

Reflection of typical Confucius ideology, it's not how a structure is formed, it's about how well it works. Western democracy was created in the west and reflects strong western culture, history and values which China and the west are worlds apart.

Yes,you should never change a working system.
Pakistan and many other ME countries should adapt the Chinese system.

 

[ashok mourya]

The Chinese democratic party leader arrested n sentenced for 11 years in jail for creating political party in 1998.why so fear psychosis among CPC.

 

[Chhatrapati]

The only places to find Maoism now on the whole planet are India and Nepal
Your writing is kind of contradictory, democracy is a western ideology and your constitution was kind of written by foreigners, language is the essence of a culture and you even lost part of that.

Yeah, that too is dying.

So what, I'm not the one who can't digest the term west. You speak about how different Communism in China is from the west. And trying to be 'not west'.

That's why Chinese communism is as different as difference gets comparing to the Soviet Union. It's only in name of communism.it's actually meritocracy which has been around in China for thousand of years.


Indians mistake freedom for talking about speaking ,we Chinese think freedom being more than that. Freedom is you have more means and more time for yourself , your family and do things you like to do without worrying your livelihood, one can never feel free if their daily struggle is the next meal. In this case, a person without economic means can never be free ,cause they are bonded with the heaviest shackles known to the humanity. What China is doing is to target the very essence of human freedom so that people can be happy and content. In a sense , Africa and India are the places where people enjoy least freedom cause people are tied down by their very existence.

Also known as dictatorship without person-centric and is replaced by a single party system which will not allow a different opinion to evolve. Freedom is also ability to speak up against the authority without the fear of being suppressed.
Freedom is ability to point out mistakes in the system. Freedom is right to practice one's faith without being prosecuted or tortured.
You might be economically success, but what's the point in that kind of freedom when your hands are tied and you are fed good food.

There is a poem, its about a parrot who lives in a palace, she gets the best food than any other parrots, protection from attacks and she lives in a cage made of gold and diamonds. She says "bandhura kanjana kootilanengilum bandhanam bandhanam thanne paril" translated as even though I'm in a golden cage I'm still imprisoned in this world.

 

[beijingwalker]

The Chinese democratic party leader arrested n sentenced for 11 years in jail for creating political party in 1998.why so fear psychosis among CPC.

The basic question is why the great majority of Chinese people support CPC and why you Indians care so much about our system and we don't really care or talk about yours.

 

[Jugger]

The Chinese have americans never really clear.

On topic: democracy in China will be an eventuality, there is no denying that the Chinese expats in western democracies are influencing the people back home.
Slowly but surely China will tilt toward democracy.

 

[beijingwalker]

Chinese people with her increasing wealth sending millions of her citizens studying and touring around the world, Chinese people now are much more exposed to western culture and political system cause we travel a lot. and the more Chinese people are exposed to the western system, the more we love our Chinese system.

Studying in the US makes the Chinese more appreciative of China
http://qz.com/568610/studying-in-the-us-makes-the-chinese-more-appreciative-of-china/

 

[ashok mourya]

Before Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms, most Chinese people were farmers. The educated/non-farmer Chinese that were pro-democracy fled to Taiwan/Japan/SE Asia following the Communist takeover. So, the new class of educated Chinese were not raised in way to desire democracy; instead, they valued economic stability and growth... which is exactly what the Communist Party of China has been providing its citizens for the past 30 some years. In a sense, many Chinese feel that they are indebted to the Communist Party for lifting them out of poverty and bringing them into the cities. Yes, air quality is bad as a result of industrialization; yes, the environment may have suffered as a result of the proliferation of cities; but Chinese citizens are humans and humans tend to look at how things changed directly for *them*. For them, moving from the countryside to the city is a big, big step up.

The more complicated answer:

Additionally, the Communist Party of China has interesting censorship policies. Check out Gary King's work (e.g. Page on harvard.edu) -- the Chinese government doesn't necessarily care about its citizens talking badly about the government; instead, it's scared of collective action. It doesn't like its citizens forming groups and working together, even if it's for pro-government causes. Given the way the Communist Party prevents citizens from forming groups, even if educated Chinese citizens wanted to revolt, there definitely would be communication barriers in their way -- for example, during recent protests, the Chinese government cut off mobile service/internet to prevent communication between protestors, etc.

 

[Nan Yang]

On topic: democracy in China will be an eventuality, there is no denying that the Chinese expats in western democracies are influencing the people back home.
Slowly but surely China will tilt toward democracy.

China is changing the world. Not the other way round.

Electoral democracy is retreating already.

 

[beijingwalker]

On topic: democracy in China will be an eventuality, there is no denying that the Chinese expats in western democracies are influencing the people back home.
Slowly but surely China will tilt toward democracy.

Wrong, the most adamant CPC supporters are young Chinese with history of studying abroad ,like many you can see in PDF here.

 

[Jugger]

China is changing the world. Not the other way round.

China is a manufacturing powerhouse , in that regard it is a very important country.
But it's not a very politically influential country, not many countries want their govt to become like the Chinese model, although some points can be taken and adopted.

 

[beijingwalker]

China is a manufacturing powerhouse , in that regard it is a very important country.
But it's not a very politically influential country, not many countries want their govt to become like the Chinese model, although some points can be taken and adopted.

Countries around world tend to adopt more successful models, it doesn't matter what that model is. China is gaining ground on that.


China’s model of economic development is becoming more popular in Africa than America’s
http://qz.com/820841/chinas-model-o...ecoming-more-popular-in-africa-than-americas/

 

[Nan Yang]

North Korea,China,Saudi Arab,Islamic state all have same thought of rule...my way or highway

"My way or highway"

Isn't that what W Bush said?

The educated/non-farmer Chinese that were pro-democracy fled to Taiwan/Japan/SE Asia following the Communist takeover. So, the new class of educated Chinese were not raised in way to desire democracy; instead, they valued economic stability and growth... which is exactly what the Communist Party of China has been providing its citizens for the past 30 some years.

Actually when Mao united China, a lot of overseas Chinese in SEA returned to China to answer Mao call. One of my Aunt was one of them. Although she later had to flee to Hong Kong due to the cultural revolution.

As for Taiwan true democracy did not happen in there until the late 90's under pressure form United States.