defence ties with US not at russia's expence::India

[onionkiller]

India has said the first-of-its-kind of initiative
with America will add "more muscle" to the
bilateral strategic partnership.
NEW YORK: Days after agreeing on joint development
and production in the field of defence with the US,
India has said the first-of-its-kind of initiative with
America will add "more muscle" to the bilateral
strategic partnership but it is not at the expense of
traditional friend Russia.
External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid said the
defence cooperation between India and the US has
been at a lower level despite the two countries having
engagement in a wide range of areas and it will be
upgraded by the Defence Declaration issued after
meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and
President Barack Obama last week.
"I think, it gives major substance to our strategic
partnership," he told the PTI in an interview here
about the decision under which the two countries will
undertake joint development and production of
defence equipment with transfer of technology from
the US.
"It (joint defence declaration) gives more muscle (to
India-US relationship), gives it more content, more
strength and I think it gives it more traction," said
Khurshid, who was part of the Indian delegation in the
Summit meeting between Singh and Obama in
Washington on September 27.
Noting that there are many dimensions to the India-
US strategic partnership, he said, "Nuclear co-
operation is one major initiative. The defence co-
operation which was substantive but at a lower level,
has now been raised to a higher level, is another
dimension of our strategic partnership."
The decision came against the backdrop of America's
wish to "replicate" Russia in joint development of
defence equipment with India like Brahmos missiles.
Asked whether this could create apprehensions among
India's old defence partners like Russia, Khurshid
asserted that this initiative with the US is not at the
expense of those already having ties in this area.
"Everybody knows that we have to diversify and
expand. But we do not do this at the cost of
traditional friend of ours. There is massive co-
operation between India and Russia, which continues
apace," the Minister said, adding "that is not going to
be affected".
He pointed out that Russia too deals with the US. The
declaration spells out the intent for enhancing
partnership in defence technology transfer, research,
co-development and co-production.
"The two sides look forward to the identification of
specific opportunities for cooperative and collaborative
projects in advanced defence technologies and
systems, within the next year," the Joint Declaration on
Defence Cooperation said.
The two countries share common security interests and
place each other at the same level as their closest
partners, it said.
The same principle will apply with respect to defence
technology transfer, trade, research, co-development
and co-production for defence articles and services,
including the most advanced and sophisticated
technology, it said.
The declaration said the both countries "will work to
improve licensing processes, and, where applicable,
follow expedited license approval processes to
facilitate this cooperation. The US and India are also
committed to protecting each other's sensitive
technology and information".

source economicstimesofindia.com

 

[onionkiller]

this is the true way to go ahead.

 

[sovcomflot]

India must prove it. Actions are louder than words.

 

[onionkiller]

India must prove it. Actions are louder than words.

yes my friend. russia will be always no.1 friend of india. but after collaspe of soviat union, we have to go to west for defence products. that is the point.

 

[bornmoron]

After reading this news,,lot of ppl gonna have constipation.....

Indo_Russia...

 

[sovcomflot]

yes my friend. russia will be always no.1 friend of india. but after collaspe of soviat union, we have to go to west for defence products. that is the point.

really?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/156767-rafale-selection-influenced-corruption.html

I think corruption .

Russia's no.1 friend is Syria . Not India.India has fallen a lot lately.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...l-rupee-payment-oil-import-5.html#post4824929

It will also mark the first time that Russia has supplied China with more powerful weapon platforms compared with Russian-built systems India has in its arsenals. In the past, the opposite was the rule.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-better-weapons-than-india.html#ixzz2gS1nZc00
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-china-getting-better-weapons-than-india.html

 

[illuminatidinesh]

really?

Rafale selection influenced by corruption?

I think corruption .

Russia's no.1 friend is Syria . Not India.India has fallen a lot lately.

Iran rejects India’s plea for full rupee payment for oil import

It will also mark the first time that Russia has supplied China with more powerful weapon platforms compared with Russian-built systems India has in its arsenals. In the past, the opposite was the rule.


Source: Russia-China relations china getting better weapons than India
Russia-China relations china getting better weapons than India

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...-not-russias-expence-india.html#ixzz2gS6Lq6nJ

Hear comes another false flagger...
Syria best fried to Russia? The only reason the Russians are intersted in Syria is they dont want to see the US influence like Iraq and Afgan. Its strategic importance to them.
The Russians are playing what is good for their national interest, which they have always been. In fact everyone does.

 

[onionkiller]

really?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/156767-rafale-selection-influenced-corruption.html

I think corruption .

Russia's no.1 friend is Syria . Not India.India has fallen a lot lately.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...l-rupee-payment-oil-import-5.html#post4824929

It will also mark the first time that Russia has supplied China with more powerful weapon platforms compared with Russian-built systems India has in its arsenals. In the past, the opposite was the rule.


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-better-weapons-than-india.html#ixzz2gS1nZc00
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-china-getting-better-weapons-than-india.html

that is bcoz of our govt. wait friend bjp will come power in india under modi ji's rule. than there will be new hieghts of friendship between india russia. may you know USA hate modi ji. plz get my point.

 

[Srinivas]

India must prove it. Actions are louder than words.

To whom ??

India has its policy in place and India can walk on a thin line by maintaining good relations with Russia.

 

[sovcomflot]

that is bcoz of our govt. wait friend bjp will come power in india under modi ji's rule. than there will be new hieghts of friendship between india russia. may you know USA hate modi ji. plz get my point.

We will see. I have information that congress will win 2014 elections by hook or crook (ie. Vote fraud,bribery etc.)

To whom ??

India has its policy in place and India can walk on a thin line by maintaining good relations with Russia.

To Russia obviously.Russia has saved India too many times already and gone out of the way to help it.

Hear comes another false flagger...
Syria best fried to Russia? The only reason the Russians are intersted in Syria is they dont want to see the US influence like Iraq and Afgan. Its strategic importance to them.
The Russians are playing what is good for their national interest, which they have always been. In fact everyone does.

Check my ip.Syria has always stood by Russia ,unlike Libya which kept changing sides. Look at what happened to Libya and Syria still stands thanks to russia.

 

[Srinivas]

We will see. I have information that congress will win 2014 elections by hook or crook (ie. Vote fraud,bribery etc.)

To Russia obviously.Russia has saved India too many times already and gone out of the way to help it.

Check my ip.

Close to 100 defense projects are happening between India and Russia.

India stood against USA on Syrian issue

PAK-FA, MTA and other naval projects put weigh MMRCA and USA defense purchases.

do I need to say more?

 

[sovcomflot]

Close to 100 defense projects are happening between India and Russia.

India stood against USA on Syrian issue

PAK-FA, MTA and other naval projects put weigh MMRCA and USA defense purchases.

do I need to say more?

All the contracts were signed before India switched sides.

on syria issue:

The standoff on Syria may also trigger shifts in Russia's relations with its two main strategic partners, India and China. The crisis has strengthened the strategic alliance of Russia and China. The veto the two countries used twice in four months was unprecedented in the recent history of the Security Council. Both refused to join the Friends of Syria meeting in Tunis and denounced attempts by outside forces to impose solutions on Syria. In his foreign policy manifesto Mr. Putin predicted that Russia's partnership with China will keep going stronger, and welcomed China's “ever more confident” voice in the world.

By contrast, India and Russia found themselves on different sides of the barricade. India's decision to side with the West raised eyebrows in the Kremlin. As recently as October, India stood with Russia and China in the U.N. Security Council as they opposed a one-sided censure of the Syrian government. New Delhi reasonably argued that violence in Syria came from two sides and the government was fighting an armed insurgency.

However, on February 4, India turned around and voted for a similar resolution that again addressed the demand to end violence to only the Syrian government. At the same time New Delhi said that, like Russia and China, it supported “a Syrian-led inclusive political process.” How can one be in favour of an “inclusive political process,” Russians wondered, while backing a resolution that supports the ouster of President Assad as a precondition for launching such a process?

A day before India sent a high-ranking diplomat to the Friends of Syria meet, senior Indian and Russian diplomats held annual foreign policy consultations in New Delhi. Disagreement over Syria was apparently so serious that a Russian Foreign Ministry communiqué on the talks did not even mention that the Middle East was discussed.

‘India's stand surprising'

“India's stand on Syria came as a surprise to the Kremlin,” says Prof. Andrei Volodin of the Russian Foreign Ministry's Diplomatic Academy. He thinks it is shortsighted on the part of India to cast its lot with the U.S., whose global power is declining, and with conservative Gulf monarchies, which are historically doomed. But he admits that India's Syria stand falls into a trend.

“Some upper echelons in the Ministry of External Affairs, alarmed by China's fast rise and backed by the U.S. Indian community and a corporate lobby, are trying to impose a foreign policy course on the country's leadership that goes against India's long-term interests,” the Russian scholar who closely follows India's political scene told The Hindu . Prof. Volodin sees this trend as part of an ongoing struggle in the Indian elite between advocates and opponents of the foreign policy tradition of Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, a struggle aggravated by a general decline in the level of strategic thinking in the Indian foreign policy establishment.

“India's stand on Syria betrays the same lack of strategic foresight as its recent decision to buy in a tender a 20th century fighter plane for 21st century tasks at a time when a fifth-generation platform that India is jointly developing with Russia is in the pipeline.”

Five years ago, Mr. Putin, then President, placed India along with Russia and China in an exclusive club of world powers that “can afford the luxury of genuine sovereignty”. As he prepares to reclaim presidency, Mr. Putin has again invoked the issue of sovereignty in foreign policy.

“Everything we do will be based on our own interests and goals, not on decisions other countries impose on us … Russia has practically always had the privilege of pursuing an independent foreign policy and this is how it will be in the future,” Mr. Putin wrote in his election manifesto.

“Syria has put to the test the ability of countries to take sovereign decisions,” says Prof. Volodin. “Russia and China have passed the test; India, unfortunately, has not.”

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...rupee-payment-oil-import-5.html#ixzz2gS9N52rr

 

[Srinivas]

All the contracts were signed before India switched sides.

Back it up with facts otherwise stop posting.

 

[sovcomflot]

Back it up with facts otherwise stop posting.

Look at my above posts. India has switched sides and is heading for the Western alliance increasingly ,thats clear from the behavior of the govt.

A very delayed and subdued reaction, at a time when the non-aligned world had expected a big country like India to come out in support of rights and justice. And yet another example of the mealy mouthed approach that has come to define Indian foreign policy, where old friends have been discarded but new friends still not really found except for the US and Israel who continue to cast a heavy shadow on most Indian foreign policy and even defence responses.

The injustice of the US strategy for Syria can escape only the most hardened and blinkered governments. Russia’s Vladimir Putin is a fine example these days of a sovereign country that will not allow unilateral will to be imposed on weaker nations, whereby military might becomes the sole criteria with rights, laws, international covenants, and indeed the United Nations itself being willfully flouted.
India's silence on Syria will antagonise its friends - Rediff.com India News

 

[Srinivas]

Look at my above posts. India has switched sides and is heading for the Western alliance increasingly ,thats clear from the behavior of the govt.

India supports Russia

India has supported the Russian proposal to keep Syrian stockpiles of chemical weapons in safe custody while pointing out that its two main postulates — no to military intervention and move toward a political settlement, possibly with a Geneva-II conference — remained unchanged.

In its standard formulation, India said it would prefer acknowledged chemical weapons stockpiles to be destroyed and, pending their elimination, to be kept in safe custody.

“If there are any proposals which are moving in this direction, then obviously India will see it as a positive development,” said spokesperson in the External Affairs Ministry Syed Akbaruddin on Tuesday.

The Indian stand has been spelt out in considerable detail over the past few days. First by the Foreign Office a week back when it categorically ruling out a military solution to the conflict and supported the move to hold an international conference on Syria (Geneva-II) involving the Syrian government and various opposition factions.

At a time when the threat of a U.S.-led military strike was at its height, the Foreign Office counselled patience till the U.N. inspectors had submitted their report. The U.N. team was in Damascus on a Syrian government request to probe a chemicals weapons attack, allegedly by the rebels, earlier this year.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh reiterated this formulation during a dinner on September 5 at the St Petersburg G-20 summit. India was not in favour of armed action aimed at regime change as this would be violation of international law. And action, if necessary, should be authorised by the U.N. Security Council, he said joining his voice with Presidents of Russia, China, Indonesia, Argentina, Brazil, and South Africa in speaking against military action not authorised by the U.N. Security Council.