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Defence ministry goes global in search for Kaveri partner



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Working on a Kaveri prototype at GTRE, Bangalore


By Ajai Shukla
Gas Turbine Research Establishment, Bangalore
Business Standard, 4th Jan 12

The defence ministry (MoD) will no longer ask French aircraft engine builder Snecma to help in resurrecting the indigenous Kaveri jet engine, which has reached a dead end in development.



Instead major global aero engine manufacturers will compete in a global tender to partner the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) --- the Bangalore-based DRDO engine laboratory --- in refining the Kaveri engine to the level where it can power the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), an indigenous, fifth-generation fighter that is on the MoD’s long-term horizon.

“We are abandoning the plan for co-development with Snecma. We still need an overseas partner. But it will not be Snecma on a single-vendor basis. We will select our partner through competitive bidding,” says Dr CP Ramnarayanan, Director, GTRE.

Business Standard, on a visit to GTRE in Bangalore, was briefed that the Kaveri still delivered significantly less power than what a modern fighter requires. In flight-testing last year at the Gromov Flight Research Institute (GFRI) in Russia, the Kaveri’s maximum thrust (termed “wet thrust") was measured at 70.4 KiloNewtons (KN). High-performance fighters like the Tejas or the AMCA need engines that generate at least 90 KN of thrust.

“To develop a more powerful Kaveri engine quickly and to become self-reliant in engine design, we need a foreign partner who can bring in core technologies. Otherwise the next cycle of engine development could take another 15-20 years,” admits Ramnarayan frankly.

Developing a jet engine for a high-performance fighter is technologically more demanding than any other aircraft system. Only a handful of countries have been able to develop aircraft engines; China, like India, has not yet achieved success. The DRDO is struggling in developing the Nickel and Cobalt superalloys for the Kaveri’s turbine, where temperatures of 1,600 degrees Centigrade warp normal metals.

Shaping the alloys into engine parts is an equal challenge. GTRE has learned how to make “directionally solidified” turbine blades; but it has not mastered the making of “single-crystal blades”, which are now standard.

The process for selecting a partner that has these technologies is under way. A DRDO committee is identifying specifications for the engine. Based on these, a Request for Proposals (RfP) will be issued to engine makers.

Meanwhile, as already reported by Business Standard (“Kaveri engine to fly futuristic unmanned aircraft”, Dec 26, 2012) GTRE is developing a spin-off Kaveri engine that will propel India’s first unmanned bomber, termed the Unmanned Strike Air Vehicle (USAV). The Kaveri’s current “dry thrust” of 50 KN will suffice for the USAV.

The refined Kaveri engine that will come out of the foreign collaboration will be used for the futuristic AMCA, but not for the Tejas fighters of the Indian Air Force (IAF), which American engines will power. The first 40 Tejas Mark I are being built with the General Electric F-404IN engine, while the subsequent Tejas Mark II would have the more powerful GE F-414 engine.


“We were planning to re-engine first 40 Tejas fighters with the Kaveri. But now they will continue to fly with the F-404 engine,” says the GTRE director.

The DRDO has moved a paper to the MoD that strongly backs the Kaveri programme as the foundation of aero engine development in the country. The DRDO calculates that India’s aerospace requirements over the coming decade will include jet engines worth Rs 1,60,000 crore.

Major aero-engine development facilities are being set up in Chitradurga, where a 5,600-acre hub of strategic industry will house R&D, testing and production units of the DRDO, Department of Space (DoS) and Department of Atomic Energy (DAE). These will include an official altitude test facility for aero engines, which US defence major Boeing is providing as an offset in India’s Rs 22,800 crore ($4.12 billion) purchase of ten C-17 Globemaster III transport aircraft. So far, GTRE has had to do all its testing in Russia.

Broadsword: Defence ministry goes global in search for Kaveri partner
 
Last time a Indian member post that Kaveri is gonna be set for unmanned bomber. No one will leakers after the latest engine technology, better work on your own.
 
Last time a Indian member post that Kaveri is gonna be set for unmanned bomber. No one will leakers after the latest engine technology, better work on your own.

The article mentions that.

Meanwhile, as already reported by Business Standard (“Kaveri engine to fly futuristic unmanned aircraft”, Dec 26, 2012) GTRE is developing a spin-off Kaveri engine that will propel India’s first unmanned bomber, termed the Unmanned Strike Air Vehicle (USAV). The Kaveri’s current “dry thrust” of 50 KN will suffice for the USAV.
 
Last time a Indian member post that Kaveri is gonna be set for unmanned bomber. No one will leakers after the latest engine technology, better work on your own.

For USAV, 50kn dry thrust and 70 kn afterburner thrust is good enough.

But I don't understand what made GTRE wait for so long to take the decision to go for foreign partner. They should have taken this decision in 2008 itself or in 2003-2004 when all the sanctions were lifted.
 
We need to understand that …In this world there is only 4 country who making their own engine for their aircraft. …Those are ….USA, UK, France and Russia… In the current market they have monopoly….They will not help any other country for the same…So if we are expecting help from them, then we are not accepting the fact.
 
Seems like General Electric or Rolls Royce going to win it.


Yes.. something like that will happen. France is pushing for too much in everything. This engine deal was a non-starter from the the very beginning. especially after the tussle for new engine development for helicopters.

Lets hope MRCA deal gets cleared without much hurdle...
 
I guess if GOI can put some money, Russia might help. There is no chance from others. :pop:
 
Say 2/3 years of procedure to select a partner means -minimum 2015 and the time need to develop say 5/7 years. So engine is going to come after 2020.
I hope they choose a stop gap engine for AMCA
 
Say 2/3 years of procedure to select a partner means -minimum 2015 and the time need to develop say 5/7 years. So engine is going to come after 2020.
I hope they choose a stop gap engine for AMCA
Dont loose hope here . Indians perform stuff better when they are late
 
Last time a Indian member post that Kaveri is gonna be set for unmanned bomber. No one will leakers after the latest engine technology, better work on your own.

Atleast we are making an Honest Attempt...On the Contrary - China is CopyCating RD33 and Naming the Engine WoShan -13
 
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