What's new

Defence budget up by Rs 1.64 lakh crores

What silly rules. They are trying to bureaucratize a country's defense?
Well the Sqdn limit went up to 44.
It is revised form time to time according to needs.
The 3% limit is to make sure enough money is left for development and to limit armed forces to Barracks and borders and not bureaucracy.
 
.
U might agree with this but Government of India Doesnot
As per Indian Laws defence Budget cannot be more than 3 % of GDP except at times of war
Generally defence budget hovers between 2.2-2.6% of GDP

At 36.5 Billion USD it stands at 2.5 % of GDP



If u take a look at Indian Laws also limit the number of weapons which Indian Arm Forces can have
For Instance IAF can have a Maximum of 39.5 Sqds or 780 Fighters
Navy can have a maximum of 138 warships and 24 Subs
Army can have a Maximum of 4000 MBT and 4700 Artillery Guns


:lol: i dont think these are the limit...

With $32 billion budget and the actual for procuring machines,u can only buy that much...
As the budget increases,the squadron increases,army number will increase,all other machine numbers increases...

And there is NO Bureaucracy as CS mentioned..
Archie pls don't misguide...
 
. .
Well the Sqdn limit went up to 44.
Last i heard, IAF sent the request to MOD and it was under consideration. I don't think MOD would have taken a decision so quickly. Is it finalized ???/

Also, is there any news on increasing the FDI limit in Defense sector ??/ I haven't heard anything but still i might have missed.
 
.
All of the above posted limits are 'sanctioned strengths'. They are not boundaries beyond which the armed forces cannot expand. geezus.
 
.
India needs the howitzers it is lacking, and investigate the corruption issue as soon as possible.
 
. . .
Defence Budget: Tinkering with commas and full stops

The presentation of annual defence budget is an exercise in futility.

The increase in defence budget from Rs.147,344 crores in fiscal 2010-11 to 164,415 crores in fiscal 2011-12, reflects a gain of 11.59%. In real terms, if one looks at the inflation, there is no increase in the budget. In fiscal 2010-11, the defence budget allocations were approximately 2.34% of the GDP and in fiscal 2011-12 with the rising GDP they almost remain the same.

There is not only a standard ‘status-quo’ in the defence budget, but also a vague promise as usual by the finance minister that ‘any further requirement for modernization of the armed forces will be met’. The defence minister has complicated the defence procurement procedure such that it prevents procurement. Even this meager money is surrendered at the end of the financial year regularly.

By shifting commas and rewording the chapter headings, the defence budget is incapable of meeting the rapidly growing threats against India. With the two-front war that can be imposed on India and now the instability being created through the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in Asia requires an extremely stable India.

To achieve this, it is vital that India arms itself with extra ordinary military capabilities to tackle the three pronged threat. First, the burgeoning internal threat where the civil administration continues to surrender to the insurgents like Maoists in Orissa. Second, the internal instability being created by the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in China is likely to make Beijing divert the attention of its citizenry by imposing a short swift war on a soft target like India. Third, the long-term instability being created by ‘Jasmine Revolution’ in Asia and Africa will require projection of India’s military power to lend a helping hand, as well as safeguard the Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) to enable energy imports and trade.

The Finance and the Defence Ministers have indulged merely in repeating the follies of the past budgets as an annual ritual instead of looking at the above ‘Big Picture’ of threats that India faces.

The Defence Budget in 2011 should have earmarked the following resources for the defence forces:

Three percent of the GDP for the next five years should be set aside for modernization of the Indian Armed Forces. This will help in long-term planning as sophisticated and technology driven military hardware can neither be bought off the shelf nor inducted overnight.
The rapid march of technology has left India behind by almost twenty years in comparison to the West and China. The Indian imports of weaponry have increased from 70% to 80% despite the fraudulent mantra of indigenization. The defence budget should have raised FDI from 26% to 49% and up to 75% depending upon the cutting edge technologies being brought in to the country. This will reduce the ‘technology deficit’ and ensure that defence factories are setup within the country to marginalize sanction regimes. This change in policy will provide enormous lateral spinoffs for the civil industry as well.
With shortages of young human resources to the tune of 14,000 officers, the defence budget should have endeavored to create an extra ordinary compensation package to attract the young to serve in the military.
The problem of technology deficit cannot be solved by merely allotting resources to the military. The inconsistencies and lack of decision-making capabilities by the defence minister in the last six years has left the Indian Armed Forces in lurch. The abortion of purchase of air-to-air refueler and 197 helicopters for the Indian Army at the last minute have not only denied urgently required capabilities to the military but have also made India a laughing stock. Further, by touting ‘indigenization’ and yet signing a 25 billion dollar deal for the fifth generation fighter aircraft to be developed in a foreign land that takes away direct benefits and spinoffs to our industry depicts a careless and superficial approach to policy making. The illogic in policy-making will increase India’s dependency on imports.

The defence budget, which is neither here nor there, reflects Prime Minister Singh’s consistent promotion of ‘incompetence’ at the ministerial and bureaucratic level. The fast multiplying internal and external threats to the Union of India cannot be handled by the depleting and ageing military holding outdated equipment if ‘push’ comes to a ‘shove’.

The announcement of today’s defence budget depicts inability and paralysis in the leadership to come to grips with the grave security scenario pitfalls facing the country.

Defence Budget: Tinkering with commas and full stops
 
.
If you live among dogs, keep a stick. After all, this is what a hound has teeth for-to bite when he feels like it!
Nikita Khrushchev


Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!
Nikita Khrushchev


I think his predecessor's quotes seem to sound valid for me when I respond to you! Ironic isn't it?!

So all this budget hike is for burying us?

Better you call it back stabbing, mugging in dark etc.
 
. . .
As per Indian Laws defence Budget cannot be more than 3 % of GDP except at times of war
I don't think a law is made in this regard. Please share if any...

If u take a look at Indian Laws also limit the number of weapons which Indian Arm Forces can have
For Instance IAF can have a Maximum of 39.5 Sqds or 780 Fighters
Navy can have a maximum of 138 warships and 24 Subs
Army can have a Maximum of 4000 MBT and 4700 Artillery Guns
These are not maximum limits. It is said that India should have these number to sustain a war. Maximum could be any number.
 
.
I don't think there's any law limiting the number of weapons army or airforce can have, maybe that's the standard figure given

These are the Sanctioned strength , Arm forces require prior permission from the Govt and then MOD has to put forward the request before the House for Final approval before numbers are increased

For Instance IAF has requested to increase the Sanctioned Fighter strength from 39.5 Sqds to 45 Sqds
MOD itself has provided conditional approval coz antony too believe that we require 42-44 Sqds for adequate detterence against china , MOD will put this request before CCS chaired by PM ,However it is unlikely that the Request will be put forward before the House before 2014-15 when Sqd Numbers will begin to rise

Thats coz currently the Number of Inductions are less than Number of Retirement , for instance since 2008 Indian Airforce has scraped around 91 fighters, 85 of them being Mig21 while It has Inducted 63 New Fighters since 2008 , all of them being Su30 MKI
Even this yr IAF expects to retire 36 Fighters all of them being Mig21 while It will Induct around 32 fighters, mainly Su30 MKI AND SOME LCA
Till 2015 , 146 Fighters will be scraped against 150 Fighters Inducted
There after, the Sqd number will increase thanks to Simultaneous Induction of mmrca , LCA, to be followed with PAKFA delivery beginning in 2017, while rate of retirement will fall from 36 aircrafts at present to 18 aircraft a yr .This will lead to increase in sqd number by 1-2 sqds a yr
currently IAF has 33 Sqds which will increase to 39.5 by 2017 and airforce is looking to increase it further to 42 Sqds by 2022 and it doesnot want any Legal Hurdle to come in its way by some dingbat who might decide to file a PIL or an RTI application saying that airforce is increasing its number by more than what is sanctioned

Frankly I expect The Likes of Subrahmanyan Swamy and Arundati Roy:sick: or even mainstream commies like Brinda Karat to oppose any such move or atleast file a PIL
 
. .
Back
Top Bottom