Debate Between Taliban Scholar & Pakistan Army Official (English Translation)

[M.SAAD]

NO, Afghan establishment was caught redhanded plotting with TTP and vowed to try again after being caught
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/world/asia/us-disrupts-afghans-tack-on-militants.html?_r=0

US catches Afghan govt 'red handed' in plotting with Pakistani Taliban: Report - The Express Tribune

You and other TTP-apolgists are trying to deflect blame from afghani deep state to pakistan's, don't confuse or mix afghani taliban with ttp, both are terrorists, but TTP is being used by NDS against Pakistan

They might be right now, but can you take the credit away from CIA and ISI for arming them as they both fought Jihad in Afghanistan together?? This article is from 2013, do u think they'll cooporate with u against TTP when u were responsible for the Jihad in their country in first place??

Please do some research, watch these videos and then comment, ty.. and I'm not TTP apologist u moron.

Please tell me who is responsible for arming with them RPG's, rocket launchers, machine guns,AK47's artillery etc etc..??

Who other than the CIA and ISI??

Taliban scholar, OP kidding right?

Its the Title of the video, I just copy & pasted it.. Even I had a laugh at it lol.

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

They might be right now, but can you take the credit away from CIA and ISI for arming them as they both fought Jihad in Afghanistan together?? This article is from 2013, do u think they'll cooporate with u against TTP when u were responsible for the Jihad in their country in first place??

Please do some research, watch these videos and then comment, ty.. and I'm not TTP apologist u moron.

It was Afghan taliban who brought jihad into Afghanistan not TTP,...TTP sprouted post-2001 when America invaded Afghanistan then post-2004 they turn against Pakistan after operation started in WANA, then ater 2009 swat operation their leadership and camps shifted to Afghanistan.

Haha you are so naive, do you know Pak afghanistan proxy war going on since 1947?since that time before Taliban, Afghanistan wanted to break Pakistan to create Greater Afghanistan or Loy Afghanistan in their language, they dream of conquering KPK and Balochistan, strechting border till Indus, they support Communist terrorists in Pakistan in that time, in 60s,70s,80s, back in '61 Afghanistan almost went to war against Pakistan in Bajaur, read history you Laal topi, reading **** or western newssites don't make you "informed"

 

[M.SAAD]

It was Afghan taliban who brought jihad into Afghanistan not TTP,...TTP sprouted post-2001 when America invaded Afghanistan then post-2004 they turn against Pakistan after operation started in WANA, then ater 2009 swat operation their leadership and camps shifted to Afghanistan.

Haha you are so naive, do you know Pak afghanistan proxy war going on since 1947?since that time before Taliban, Afghanistan wanted to break Pakistan to create Greater Afghanistan or Loy Afghanistan in their language, they dream of conquering KPK and Balochistan, strechting border till Indus, they support Communist terrorists in Pakistan in that time, in 60s,70s,80s, back in '61 Afghanistan almost went to war against Pakistan in Bajaur, read history you Laal topi, reading **** or western newssites don't make you "informed"

Yeah and that TTP guy in the video is having a joke about when he said that several Mujahideens from North Waziristan went to Afghanistan and fought the Jihad there against Soviet Army??? and confesses that he took assistance from Pakistan's ISI and American agencies??? THAT GUY EVEN ADMIT THAT THE TTP AND TALIBANS FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS OF SAME AMEER.


PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO !!!

and you're right about Afghan Pakistan proxies tho, thats why I admit that they might know about TTP hideouts now and aren't informing Pakistan about it, might even be assisting them.. but then again Afghan talibans are after the Afghan govt. and Afghan forces too so I doubt TTP is taking much assistance from them .

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

Yeah and that TTP guy in the video is having a joke about when he said that several Mujahideens from North Waziristan went to Afghanistan and fought the Jihad there against Soviet Army??? and confesses that he took assistance from Pakistan's ISI and American agencies???


PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO !!!

You're such a..., yes TTP and Afghan are connected and many militants from both sides for each other's causes but TTP did not exist in 80s or even 90s, it came into existence post-2001, like i mentioned you ignoramus, they fled to FATA soon after American invasion; so TTP is not Afghan Taliban or Haqqani, but they have many commonalities and trade members, open ur mind you Laal shalwar

 

[M.SAAD]

You're such a..., yes TTP and Afghan are connected and many militants from both sides for each other's causes but TTP did not exist in 80s or even 90s, it came into existence post-2001, like i mentioned you ignoramus, they fled to FATA soon after American invasion; so TTP is not Afghan Taliban or Haqqani, but they have many commonalities and trade members, open ur mind you Laal shalwar

Please try to understand what I mean to say, you're failing to realise that the Mujahideens that fought the Afghan war from North Waziristan and other tribal areas were fighting in 80s and 90s too along side Afghan Talibans, they just officially united after 2001 and formed TTP then waged Jihad against Pakistan, but saying they just popped out after 2001 out of nowhere like ur trying to suggest is totally laughable .

Its a fact that they took assistance from ISI during their Afghan Jihad, even Talibans in their videos admit that, but some morons on this site for some reason fail to admit that..

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

Please try to understand what I mean to say, you're failing to realise that the Mujahideens that fought the Afghan war from North Waziristan and other tribal areas were fighting in 80s and 90s too along side Afghan Talibans, they just officially united after 2001 and formed TTP then waged Jihad against Pakistan, but saying they just popped out after 2001 out of nowhere like ur trying to suggest is totally laughable .

Its a fact that they took assistance from ISI during their Afghan Jihad, even Talibans in their videos admit that, but some morons on this site for some reason fail to admit that..

but that's besides the point, i know all that, but TTP organization was formed post 9/11 and turned on pakistan and right now Afghan intel is supporting them, hiding mullah radio and others, they were caught in late 2013, they are still doing it, don't deny afghani estbalishment role, otherwise methinks you are some lungi agent

 

[M.SAAD]

but that's besides the point, i know all that, but TTP organization was formed post 9/11 and turned on pakistan and right now Afghan intel is supporting them, hiding mullah radio and others, they were caught in late 2013, they are still doing it, don't deny afghani estbalishment role, otherwise methinks you are some lungi agent

Yes I don't deny the Afghan Establishment role in hiding them, specially their leaders...


All I wanted to say that they might have been formed after 9/11 but they mainly consisted of same old boys who fought Afghan Jihad war from Tribal areas, and were armed heavily by Pakistani intelligence and CIA .


Even the TTP guy in the video admitted that..

I think ISI needs to launch some covert Operation in Afghanistan to fight their hideouts and kill them..