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Death toll from deadly heatwave crosses 700!

you cant blame govt for everything... this is a freakishly hot year.. govt machinery cannot react fast. You cant blame lack of community spirit too, people need work, and they will be outside.

UK has way lower community spirit than south asia, infact the west is build upon fierce individualism. Individuals make decisions via collective wisdom to build lasting system that works.
 
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R.I.P
Govt could've saved those people who have died due to their lack of concern.
 
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Climate Profile of Karachi:
Source: Karachi City Climate Change - Adaptation Strategy - A Road Map, by Farhan Anwar
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A very comprehensive study is done by Mr. Farhan Anwar (link provided above) to understand the issue IF someone in Provincial Govt or Federal Govt. take due interest, knowledge-base and resources are there.
 
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That's because we are not a NATION in a sense other Western nations are. We are what the great Hassan Nisar puts it: A Hajoom or Crowd, nothing else :D

No we are not even a crowd, that is being charitable instead truth be told we are a crazed mob killing and fighting each other ...

Like the completely broken and debt-ridden UK economy? :D Is this the collective wisdom of the individuals you are talking about?


No it is not. It is doing fine thank you. Lot better than most of Europe ..
 
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Our founding fathers should have at least thought about this pagal awam before imposing Western democracy here :D
Shhhh...............................................
As he was shia, Mullahs will flood this thread against him and against creation of Pak...Thanks that our illiterate Mullahs have less info ... Otherwise here is already sectarian violence, sections of Islam, then Sub sections, bigotry, then bigotry and bigotry.
Western democracy Sy hi guzara chalao filhal :p:


Nooney Tunes and their pathetic statements as usual :D
What is pathetic. .This is just a noora logic...
"I am wrong , because he was wrong too"
" We didn't end loadshedding, PPPP also didn't end loadshedding"

:big_boss:
 
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Like the completely broken and debt-ridden UK economy? :D Is this the collective wisdom of the individuals you are talking about?
British capitalism is broken. Here’s how to fix it | Will Hutton | Business | The Guardian

:D :D :D
yes, something is broken, and is being fixed as we speak. The capitalism makes sure we can afford socialism (social housing, disable benefits, NHS etc). Nobody is perfect, and there is always room for improvement.
I am individualist person, so may be I am biased towards such model. :)
 
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When heat wave killed hundreds in India last month, some pakistani and chini posters were trolling on those threads.

If those turds were not shameless, they would have felt shame at that now.
 
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When heat wave killed hundreds in India last month, some pakistani and chini posters were trolling on those threads.

If those turds were not shameless, they would have felt shame at that now.

what were they saying ??

and why are you always angry ?? okay, be angry but not in petty nationalism.
 
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what were they saying ??

and why are you always angry ?? okay, be angry but not in petty nationalism.

Why are you always so biased again every indian and everything indian? I only commented on what kind of low quality posting pakistani and chini posters fet away with. You only see petty nationalism when you see a hindu.
 
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No it is not. It is doing fine thank you. Lot better than most of Europe ..
Guardian is lying then:
We live in a country whose banking system seven years ago was only saved by a £1tn intervention, and that remains crippled by the legacy of private debt and stunning losses. Months ago, the secession of Scotland, which threatened to break up the foundations of the state, was narrowly avoided; it remains an ongoing threat. Our share of world markets continues to shrink, and our trade deficit has climbed to unthinkable levels. Wages have fallen, in real terms, by the greatest degree in more than a century. Inequality of income and wealth have risen to desperately high levels that may soon metastasise into a serious economic and social cancer.

Yet what is most extraordinary about the present moment is that all this now seems unexceptional; our political and economic order is so thoroughly broken that many no longer find that fact worthy of notice.

The crisis goes to the very roots of how we produce and work, and how we frame the institutions that should support the lives and ambitions of millions of ordinary people. Five million wait to be housed – yet over the last generation, five million council flats have been sold and not replaced. Millions of workers struggle in a harsh demimonde of temporary jobs and zero-hours contracts. For many, it is no longer a realisable aim to acquire skills or a profession and pursue a stable career with an enduring and reliable organisation; our companies indulge in unending cycles of restructuring, regrading, and reshaping, while the public sector has been shrunk to an unprecedented degree. It is only those at the very top who see their pay and possibilities expanding – along with the ease of passing on advantages to their children, creating a new closed caste of elites and diminishing prospects for social mobility. If we wish to create an economy, and a society, in which the majority of us flourish, Britain in 2015 is not the model to follow.
British capitalism is broken. Here’s how to fix it | Will Hutton | Business | The Guardian

I thought you were one of few rationally thinking and unbiased TTA's of PDF. What happened to you buddy? :(

As he was shia, Mullahs will flood this thread against him and against creation of Pak:p:
He was not just a Shia. He was in fact an Ismaili. A minority community, that has contributed so much for Pakistan since its birth, unlike these Sunni majority freaks! :D

yes, something is broken, and is being fixed as we speak.
NOTHING has been fixed! Look around you. UK debt has ballooned since the recession and the housing bubble that started the previous crisis has just returned back:
Surreal estate: Kensington & Chelsea properties soar to £11,635 a sq metre | Business | The Guardian
 
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@Norwegian financial crisis was not precipitated by individualism but by lack of effective regulation of finance industry. People think capitalism is free for all, survival of the fittest in dog eat dog world.
Because capitalism relies on competition, you need legal framework to make people play by certain rules, which means somebody will play referee and intervene when rule is broken.
The debt actually increased because of state intervened, and in long term to stabilize the system.

UK has overreliance on finance industry(people equate bankers with capitalism weirdly, not manufacturers) and decline of manufacturing(due to unionization and rise of cheap and equally good product from elsewhere due to low shipping cost) made it worst.

Individualism is a source of enterprenureship, of out of box thinking, of being different, of creativity. Whether next brilliant invention or completely new art installation, british manage to have thought leadership in many areas. Not bad for a people of small island.
You hope to monetize some of those ideas, and manage to make more money for the economy, which makes sure you afford high quality of life.
 
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He was not just a Shia. He was in fact an Ismaili. A minority community, that has contributed so much for Pakistan since its birth, unlike these Sunni majority freaks! :D

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After his death, even Miss Fatima Jinnah declared him a Shia in order to inherit his property
 
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@Norwegian financial crisis was not precipitated by individualism but by lack of effective regulation of finance industry. People think capitalism is free for all, survival of the fittest in dog eat dog world.
No. Financial industry was pretty much regulated post-WW2. And by the 80's it was deregulated for more efficiency. And post-financial crisis, its regulated again. So we are back to square one with trillions of pounds in debt. Does this sound like collective "wisdom"? :D :D :D

Because capitalism relies on competition, you need legal framework to make people play by certain rules, which means somebody will play referee and intervene when rule is broken.
There is always competition, with or without capitalism. You are born and raised in competition against your siblings, friends and other people you might know or not know. This BS that without capitalism there would be no competition is nothing but propaganda.
And exactly WHO would play "referee" in this competitive society? Certainly not the state or government that itself is competing against other states? In capitalism you privatize the profits and socialize the losses. People in financial markets are making money again after massive government bailouts, just not everybody else :D :D :D

The debt actually increased because of state intervened, and in long term to stabilize the system.
How is increasing the debt-sheet in an already over debt society "stabilizing" the system? Don't you read about Greek debt crisis? They cannot service their old debts already, yet they are forcibly fed with more debts no matter if they want it or not. Its insane! :D :D :D
Every time the troika lends money it demands more austerity measures from Greece. The idea is to ensure that the Greek budget enters into a positive territory so that the country is finally able to start repaying the debt it owes, instead of borrowing more to repay what it owes. The troika wants the Greek government to run a surplus i.e. its revenues should be more than its expenditure.
But the results were disastrous. As Blyth writes: “The lenders, the so-called troika of the ECB, the European Commission and the IMF, forecast growth returning by 2012. Instead unemployment in Greece reached 21 percent in late 2011, and the economy continued to contract."
Grexit: There's a reason why the world is going bonkers over Greece

Its like treating a drug-addict with more drugs! LOL :D

UK has overreliance on finance industry(people equate bankers with capitalism weirdly, not manufacturers) and decline of manufacturing(due to unionization and rise of cheap and equally good product from elsewhere due to low shipping cost) made it worst.
Bankers are playing capitalist because the real capitalists i.e manufacturers, inventors and entrepreneurs rely on them for funding and investments, instead of government as it used to be. Thus these big zombie banks hijack entire nation's economy by controlling the credit supply to all its citizens! :D :D :D

Individualism is a source of enterprenureship, of out of box thinking, of being different, of creativity. Whether next brilliant invention or completely new art installation, british manage to have thought leadership in many areas. Not bad for a people of small island.
I am a defender of individualism, but not of any sort of collective wisdom. Because there is none :D

You hope to monetize some of those ideas, and manage to make more money for the economy, which makes sure you afford high quality of life.
This monetization of new ideas is a good thing, but monetization of debt, not so :D

After his death, even Miss Fatima Jinnah declared him a Shia in order to inherit his property
But Ismailis are Shia already :)

Wow, only 3 pages for this but some woman in South East Asia wears revealing clothing for a sporting competition and it had 20 pages within a day about geniuses deciding how she should dress. Pretty much shows where your priorities lie. :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
That thread was locked remember? :D
 
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