Dear chinese and the other friends.

[April.lyrics]

good night vietnamese....

life is good. dont be bored by those national politic things....

 

[BinhMinh02]

you are wrong, this is the rule of the game, instead of Libia ,why didn't NATO bomb Russia? bullying is pervasive throughout the world. it seems brutal, but it's true.
and now let's turn to the conflict btw china and vietnam, until 1980s, vietnam started to claim those islands that china had claimed hundred years ago. their claim is totally unacceptable and unfounded.
to be realistic, looking back to history of the world ,mostly disputes over territory can be solved by nothing but military power. no one will sympathize you, china sincee 1840, has been bullied by westerners, it lasted more than 100years, and now our chinese's only request is to make china stronger enough not for aggression but for defending, prevent those tragidy from coming back again.
just take a look at WWII, there were tends of millions of chinese being killed massacred raped, who did justice to china ? now china is a little wealthier, some started growing anxious and portrayed china as a threat. the only reason is china is still too weak to affect the world media. so china is being bullied by others now.

before 1974, Vietnam army manage the island in East Sea

before 1974, the Chinese military has never managed to complete the island in East Sea

Chinese military management of the island only after 1974

Please read the war in 1974, my stupid friend

your history is never written true

Thus, in the world, nobody read your history, because it never recorded in detail

 

[Peter]

I can understand everything you said above. It is really that we Chinese think you have forgotten our help. But it doesn't matter for me now because you have told me what is the truth.

I said to a few Vietnamese in this thread before. China and Vietnam should have been good partners, good friends. For history, for culture, and for the reality, the two countries have numerous reasons to walk together.

But still, it is quite hard for us to abandon the sovereignty of those islands.

It is quite sad that the relationship between China and Vietnam is breaking just because boundary questions. For Chinese, we are more angry about Vietnam because you were our brother in our heart for a quite long time. It is unacceptable somehow.

First of all, it is about "Balance of Power". Now, secondly is about "National Interest" and don't you see who are the people behind those Idemitsu, BP and ExxonMobil? If they do not want the tension between China and Vietnam then why are there still Vietnamese's oil ships kept going out to survey at those disputed islands and gotten damaging survey cables?

The territorial disputes were a focus of a regional security conference in Singapore on Saturday, where Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. was committed to defending its Southeast Asian allies. Mr. Gates predicted more clashes could occur unless rival claimants find a way to peacefully settle their disputes.

Also, our US Defence Secretary Dr Robert Gates yesterday warned of possible naval clashes in the South China Sea unless a fast regional solution could be found to ease rising tensions....

Benefit from the Fighting between Mussel and Snipe

 

[dore]

What exactly does "the world stand's with Vietnam" even mean. Moral support does nothing against cruise missile and silkworms. Do you think China's gonna fight it out in the jungles of Vietnam??? If there's war, it's just gonna be cruise missiles day after day until the Vietnamese economy collapses.

No major world power has come out in support of Vietnam. That means Russia and US will give China a pass on this one if it escalates. In return China will buy more US bonds, Russian gas, German cars and French wines. That's how the world works. Nobody gives a cr@p about Vietnam and India isn't gonna do anything.

Saying like kid. I know, no one give anyone anything without benefits. I believe Vietnam is not alone. My friend, Think further. not confident so much.

 

[BinhMinh02]

First of all, it is about "Balance of Power". Now, secondly is about "National Interest" and don't you see who are the people behind those Idemitsu, BP and ExxonMobil? If they do not want the tension between China and Vietnam then why are there still Vietnamese's oil ships kept going out to survey at those disputed islands and gotten damaging survey cables?

The territorial disputes were a focus of a regional security conference in Singapore on Saturday, where Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the U.S. was committed to defending its Southeast Asian allies. Mr. Gates predicted more clashes could occur unless rival claimants find a way to peacefully settle their disputes.

Also, our US Defence Secretary Dr Robert Gates yesterday warned of possible naval clashes in the South China Sea unless a fast regional solution could be found to ease rising tensions....

Benefit from the Fighting between Mussel and Snipe

this is useless

they have been brainwashed

they are greedy, and cruel, they act as Somali pirates

They want 80% of the East Sea, oh no, can not believe

They have no historical evidence credible, they want to use force, they rob what do not belongs to them

 

[chineseman]

oh no, we love peace, and do not want the pirates

oh no, we love peace, we do not want actions your pirates, we respect international law, and historical evidence

you do not have any historical evidence reliable

dispute of this nature takes not only muscles but wisdom, Vietnam and China have too many historical things shared, why your country desperately invited some foreign company to drill oil in the disputed area, you just wanna make it a fact recogized by the world, but that's not that easy, chinese won't stand still, although the ordinary chinese won't benefit from the south sea oil(cuz the oil will belong to state owned company and most of the profits derived from oil will be lavished by the vested interest ) but it's all about the dignity of a nation, losing it to other country will be a big humiliation for both the leaders and the ordinaries.
China previously suggested that we can put aside the dispute and to develop it jointly, but you don't want it. you just wanna eat alone, don't wanna share. and you are to do the military drill, what kind of message do you want convey, you wanna scare away the claimer? calm down and to have cool head is very important, it's you that are forcing china to take subsantive action. not because of your smaller size, but becuase we felt being bullied ,invaded.
why can't we get along with each other peacefully, provocation is unhelpful

 

[BinhMinh02]

the same, Spratly and Parace belong to china, the oil also belongs to china , if you viet slaves wante to steal, you'll get fucked exactly like how we fucked you in 1988 and 1974 in these two area

you have admitted, you use force to pirate our

oh, perhaps you have read the history of the world, and you do not read Chinese history, thank you

 

[chineseman]

before 1974, Vietnam army manage the island in East Sea

before 1974, the Chinese military has never managed to complete the island in East Sea

Chinese military management of the island only after 1974

Please read the war in 1974, my stupid friend

your history is never written true

Thus, in the world, nobody read your history, because it never recorded in detail

my smart friend, thanks for your reply, i assume you are smart enough, so you should know the contents of your history book and our history book won't be the same. and the pragmatic way would be to compromise to avert the military confrontation, that's good for both your ppl and our ppl, why not to suspend it, and what your side is doing is trying to aggravate the current problem. that's not intelligent.

 

[BinhMinh02]

oh no, we love peace, and do not want the pirates

oh no, we love peace, we do not want actions your pirates, we respect international law, and historical evidence

you do not have any historical evidence reliable

dispute of this nature takes not only muscles but wisdom, Vietnam and China have too many historical things shared, why your country desperately invited some foreign company to drill oil in the disputed area, you just wanna make it a fact recogized by the world, but that's not that easy, chinese won't stand still, although the ordinary chinese won't benefit from the south sea oil(cuz the oil will belong to state owned company and most of the profits derived from oil will be lavished by the vested interest ) but it's all about the dignity of a nation, losing it to other country will be a big humiliation for both the leaders and the ordinaries.
China previously suggested that we can put aside the dispute and to develop it jointly, but you don't want it. you just wanna eat alone, don't wanna share. and you are to do the military drill, what kind of message do you want convey, you wanna scare away the claimer? calm down and to have cool head is very important, it's you that are forcing china to take subsantive action. not because of your smaller size, but becuase we felt being bullied ,invaded.
why can't we get along with each other peacefully, provocation is unhelpful

Dear friend, China does not want to share

Therefore, China use force to destroy our probe

location very inshore Vietnam's coast

if we destroy your ships near your coast

What would you do

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

oh no, we love peace, and do not want the pirates

oh no, we love peace, we do not want actions your pirates, we respect international law, and historical evidence

you do not have any historical evidence reliable

dispute of this nature takes not only muscles but wisdom, Vietnam and China have too many historical things shared, why your country desperately invited some foreign company to drill oil in the disputed area, you just wanna make it a fact recogized by the world, but that's not that easy, chinese won't stand still, although the ordinary chinese won't benefit from the south sea oil(cuz the oil will belong to state owned company and most of the profits derived from oil will be lavished by the vested interest ) but it's all about the dignity of a nation, losing it to other country will be a big humiliation for both the leaders and the ordinaries.
China previously suggested that we can put aside the dispute and to develop it jointly, but you don't want it. you just wanna eat alone, don't wanna share. and you are to do the military drill, what kind of message do you want convey, you wanna scare away the claimer? calm down and to have cool head is very important, it's you that are forcing china to take subsantive action. not because of your smaller size, but becuase we felt being bullied ,invaded.
why can't we get along with each other peacefully, provocation is unhelpful

跟它们多解释基本上是对牛弹琴，看谁能强硬到最后吧

 

[BinhMinh02]

well, i said, if you viet keep stealing our lands , the force will be used , chinese history? chinese history full of story invaders and thieves, you viet thief

why do you think? I am a man constellation

why do you think Your East Sea?

can you prove it?

 

[dore]

probably only india, or maybe japan, no one eles, i dont think U.S. will help but orally, after all ,you are dirty Vietcong , U.S.'S goal is containing all communist countries, but America's economic and political interests are heavily tangled with china, U.S. needs china, and china needs too, china is world top power , you viet is just tiny poor weak state having no real importance at all to U.S. even can be used by U.S. temporarily from times to time by world power, then will be victim as always in wolrd power game, espeically will be eliminated by U.S . because you are vietgong , the communist state suppressing human rights

I know what is happening. But far more than you thinking. I'm not saying that the U.S. will certainly help us. But I also don't think the U.S. won't help us, if we had nothing to lose, we know what we should do. I don't want to say anything right now. But I think China has many difficulties if we had nothing to lose

 

[chineseman]

Dear friend, China does not want to share

Therefore, China use force to destroy our probe

location very inshore Vietnam's coast

if we destroy your ships near your coast

What would you do

haha, you'd better to go ask more your ppl here, cuz our chinese's voice is overwhelming, it's getting imbalanced,haha, we should have become ally, but the current situation is not very optimistic. think over, as some friends here said we shall pay respect to you for your allegiance to your nation.

 

[BinhMinh02]

my smart friend, thanks for your reply, i assume you are smart enough, so you should know the contents of your history book and our history book won't be the same. and the pragmatic way would be to compromise to avert the military confrontation, that's good for both your ppl and our ppl, why not to suspend it, and what your side is doing is trying to aggravate the current problem. that's not intelligent.

we want peace

why are you destroying our probe

if we come to your coast, We destroy your probes, what would you think?

 

[chineseman]

跟它们多解释基本上是对牛弹琴，看谁能强硬到最后吧

a conflict with neighbor will inevitably draw some negative impact on our image, we need to do everything to protect our reputation, china is peace lover.