Deadly explosions on Moscow Metro system

[courageneverdies]

Some people here need to understand that Indians are not making allegations but it is the Russian Ambassador (which effectively means Russia) is pointing fingers towards you. Stop being obsessed with Indian in first place and man Russia is too huge for you to deal with.

Because Russain diplomat ain't saying this here but Indian trolls are.

Secondly, I think you forgot who broke the far bigger USSR in early 90's. Who pushed back USSR back to its borders and later it was torn to pieces. Amend your records.

KIT OVer

 

[Spitfighter]

Russia needs to stop its brutality before it can start to moan and groan about being targetted

Ok, does that apply to Pakistan as well? close to 40,000 people have died in Pakistan since 2001, so should Pakistan end its 'brutal occupation' of FATA and Balochistan?

As the Indian members asked the question..........NOW MINE.....What crime was committed by these innocent soles.

I recall a thread where a Hindu in Pakistan killed his 3 children for his Goddess and all the Indians began to moan about how Hinduism was now being ridiculed by forum members and how they went into overdrive trying to defend their faith trying to blame the individual and detach themselves from him, now all of a sudden they're jumping on the band wagon for a bit of Islam/Pakistan bashing because their partners in War Crimes Russia is hurt........

Your problem is that you see everything in a religious context, you can't condemn terrorism for what it is simply because muslims are committing these heinous acts, yet you cry for sympathy/aid when Pakistan is targeted by similar extremist outfits.

May god bless the innocent victims.

 

[Arik]

Why dont you ask that question to the family members who have been murdered by Russian forces in chechnya, Ingushetia and others states where Muslims are killed by the masses.

A.R. - My question........if I killed your mother, father, wife or children, what will be your response.....Indians here like putting questions, only problem is, they too have experience in Genocide, like that in Kashmir etc

If innocent people are going to be killed of other people, then they are going to kill theirs, in kind, like it or not.

If they wanted to take revenge they should have attacked russian soilders.Killing civilians will take u nowhere.This attack will make things worse as russia will unleash its might and it will result in the death of more chechen civilians.

 

[ASQ-1918]

Chechnya is and will alsways be an integral part of russia. Russia in no way has ocupied any independent country.

It is, but Russians are foreigners to these lands. They occupied our region during 1800s. And Chechnya didn't got conqured untill 1860!

Secondly, Chechens won the first war during 1990s, and Russians had to sign the pact wich meant partially independence of Chechnya. But Russians violated that agreement by invading Chechnya in 1999. The case is, Russians had signed a peace pact, not a ceasefire.

 

[karan.1970]

Is Chechnya a part of Russia? No. Than how can it be an internal matter? This is a game of action-reaction and will continue till Russia changes her inhumanitarian policies.

Secondly, wasn't Saddam-Kurds conflict an internal matter? Why did US interfare there? Obvious are the reasons and since they went in someone elses war, US is in worst condition in Iraq and so in Afghanistan.

We strongly condemn terrorism. Because Pakistan has given the most sacrifices against terrorism. We are the nation that has affected the most. We as nation have given the most and paid the biggest prize that you can never repay.

Russian acts against Chechens are the basic reasons for such incidents. Just like innocent Russian Citizens should not be killed, the innocent Chechen Citizens also are equal worthy.

KIT Over

Really..

When terrorists kill innocents in India, it is India's fault becuase of India's acts in Kashmir

When terrorists kill innocents in USA , it is USA's fault becuase of it acts in mid east against muslims

When terrorists kill innocents in Russia, it is Russia's fault becuase of it acts in Chechnya

But if they kill innocents in Pakistan, its "We as nation have given the most and paid the biggest prize that you can never repay"...

Hypocrisy.. Isnt it??

 

[democracyspeaks]

Is Chechnya a part of Russia? No. Than how can it be an internal matter? This is a game of action-reaction and will continue till Russia changes her inhumanitarian policies.

Please before writing such crap do study history.

Chechnya is a republic of the Russian Federation. Wont write any further cause your history is poor.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Chechnya is and will alsways be an integral part of russia. Russia in no way has ocupied any independent country.

Regarding chechny's past, its the land of Georgians, Cossacks & Kalmyks.

Mansur Ushurma came in the 18th century, prior to that the land had more christians and budhist population.

Read more history freely available online from neutral sources.

Chechnya is an integral part of russia and now the time has again come after the second chechyan war for the christian majority russians to kick the chechnyan terroists

according to your flags, you're hindustany.

Are you spokesperson now for the people of the regions you discussed?


More pertinently, your views on divide & conquer bear some resemblance to the mentality of certain pre-partition hindustan. And we all know what happened subsequently

Most of us here are educated and like-minded people. Nobody here is supporting terrorism.

You cannot hide certain social/humanitarian problems under a carpet and pretend like they don't exist. That is a very bad habit, and recipe for disaster.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Recent reports indicate that the Uzbecks, Chechens and Uighurs trained in Al Qaeda training camps in North Waziristan have started moving towards their home bases in order to step up their jihad against the Governments of these countries and to disrupt the movement of logistic supplies to the US and other NATO troops through their territory.

On a more serious note. This part is accurate and analysts have been talking about it for almost a year now, that as Pakistan increased pressure on the TTP on its side, the foreigners (Arabs, Chechens, Uzbeks etc.) would end up being forced back to their home countries.

But the fact of the matter is that these 'imported extremists' first brought their terrorist skills to Pakistan, and used them to attack Pakistanis in concert with the TTP, and so 'blame' should first and foremost rest with the nations (Russia, Uzbekistan etc.) where these terrorists developed their skills before they came to Pakistan.

Pakistan cannot be blamed for making life miserable enough for these insurgents that they were forced back to their home nations. Perhaps the Russians can now blame the US as well for successful operations in Afghanistan that prevent these fighters from finding sanctuary there?

Talk about some twisted logic.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Trust people with links to Indian security forces to come up with 'links to Pakistan' within hours of any terrorist attack.

That after all is what these people do for a living while serving in India.

are any other publications/outlets relaying the same news; or is it just the hindustanys

 

[democracyspeaks]

according to your flags, you're hindustany.

Are you spokesperson now for the people of the regions you discussed?


More pertinently, your views on divide & conquer bear some resemblance to the mentality of certain pre-partition hindustan. And we all know what happened subsequently

Most of us here are educated and like-minded people. Nobody here is supporting terrorism.

You cannot hide certain social/humanitarian problems under a carpet and pretend like they don't exist. That is a very bad habit, and recipe for disaster.

The arguement is whether chechnya is a part of Russia or not? Answer is yes it is a republic of the Russian Federation.

There is no question of divide and conquer. If such terrorist acts are done by the chechen rebels then that has to be crushed by the Russians as simple as that.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

AM,

it's good those militants are going back to their ancestral countries....


if they were to sneak into Pakistan, then suddenly we are hub of terrorism. If we attack them so they are de-moralized and forced to flee, then we are hub of terrorism.


Damned if we do, damned if we dont -- in some peoples eyes. Best is to just block out the smearing and propaganda being created by the standard indian.


Rational, more informed sources know the true picture.

 

[courageneverdies]

Really..

When terrorists kill innocents in India, it is India's fault becuase of India's acts in Kashmir

When terrorists kill innocents in USA , it is USA's fault becuase of it acts in mid east against muslims

When terrorists kill innocents in Russia, it is Russia's fault becuase of it acts in Chechnya

But if they kill innocents in Pakistan, its "We as nation have given the most and paid the biggest prize that you can never repay"...

Hypocrisy.. Isnt it??

India has occupied Kashmir, USA has occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia has occupied Chechnya but Pakistan is doing the clean-up of others' caused mess.

So no hypocracy.

@democracyspeaks. From your crap its obvious you'll soon say since Uzbekistan, tajikistan etc were parts of USSR so Russia has the right to claim them.

I know about my history, you need to ammend yours. I ain't in a mood to streamline the ill knowledge of some mental childs.

KIT Over

 

[Gazzi]

If they wanted to take revenge they should have attacked russian soilders.Killing civilians will take u nowhere.This attack will make things worse as russia will unleash its might and it will result in the death of more chechen civilians.

Ohhhhhh, so we now acknowledge that Russia's response will kill civilians, but what,......thats alright yeh, so when the Cechens do it..........no no no no no, thats a problem, becuse they are Muslim and they just cannot do this, only Russians can............well thats the mentality here, claps to you then Sir for clarifying that for us all

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

are any other publications/outlets relaying the same news; or is it just the hindustanys

The only thing that matters, to a degree, is the official Russian position, and I am unsure of what that is at this moment other that what Karan posted.

A Russian position that blames Pakistan for pushing Russian insurgents back into Russia through successful military operations against them, after they acted as instructors and trainers for terrorists in Pakistan and caused so much death and devastation in Pakistan, would be rather silly IMO.

Even if the Russians take an illogical public position of blaming Pakistan (possibly because of the military contracts they signed with India and are looking to sign), their limited ties and influence with Pakistan mean that it won't affect us much.

 

[Gazzi]

India has occupied Kashmir, USA has occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, Russia has occupied Chechnya but Pakistan is doing the clean-up of others' caused mess.

So no hypocracy.

@democracyspeaks. From your crap its obvious you'll soon say since Uzbekistan, tajikistan etc were parts of USSR so Russia has the right to claim them.

I know about my history, you need to ammend yours. I ain't in a mood to streamline the ill knowledge of some mental childs.

KIT Over

Well, if we go by that logic, we may as well give Pakistan and bangladesh to India, as that once clearly was a part of it as well.......maybe that is what these people actually want