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My reference to 'rationality' was from the perspective of the Russian State giving up its 'Genghiz Khan' tactics in subduing the separatist movement in Chechnya.
Sri Lankan army used those very tactics against the LTTE. Anyway, I repeat this again, anyone who picks up a gun against the state is bound to be crushed by the state machinery. PA did it, IA did/doing it, PLA doing it and so is Russia. Guns dont talk "talks".
Btw, why Chechnya is to be considered different from the LTTE or the Khalistan ideology? Why the soft corner for them?
They should have learned their lesson from Afghanistan. If Russia wants Chechny and Chechens to be part of the Russian Federation, then treating them like humans would be a huge step forward in minimizing support for violent separatists.
Violent movements get public support only in the initial days of the struggle. Once the wrath of the state machinery is turned against the separatists, this very support slowly and steadily declines, more so if religion is abused in the name of the 'struggle'. Happening in Chechnya, in Kashmir etc. Separatists will have nowhere to go but to get wasted!
 
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Sri Lankan army used those very tactics against the LTTE. Anyway, I repeat this again, anyone who picks up a gun against the state is bound to be crushed by the state machinery. PA did it, IA did/doing it, PLA doing it and so is Russia. Guns dont talk "talks".
Btw, why Chechnya is to be considered different from the LTTE or the Khalistan ideology? Why the soft corner for them?

Violent movements get public support only in the initial days of the struggle. Once the wrath of the state machinery is turned against the separatists, this very support slowly and steadily declines, more so if religion is abused in the name of the 'struggle'. Happening in Chechnya, in Kashmir etc. Separatists will have nowhere to go but to get wasted!

Chechnya was invaded by russia. now how can this be compared with TTP, LTTE, etc etc....?

violent movement only get public support in short run..... agreed
and also suppression can only solve your problem in short run.....agreed?
 
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Pakistan army has done the most to destroy terrorist camps, must I remind you we are the only ones who are scoring consecutive wins against the Taliban.

Not a bad job, I must say. But it is pretty much your and America's problem to begin with. Only if PA and ISI in connivance with the CIA hadn't allowed the Taliban to blossom in the first place.
 
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Chechnya's Kadyrov condemns blasts in Moscow subway

Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov condemned terrorist attacks that killed at least 37 people and injured at least another 65 in the Moscow subway early on Monday morning.

Two blasts in Moscow's subway stations Lubyanka and Park Kultury occurred during the early morning rush hour with an interval of 40 minutes, the first one at approximately 8:00 a.m.

The head of the country's Federal Security Service (FSB), Alexander Bortnikov, said terrorists from Russia's volatile North Caucasus may have been responsible for the blasts. Bortnikov said the bodies of "two female suicide bombers who were residing in the North Caucasus had been found at the explosion sites."

"Terror attacks were staged in Moscow. People died and were injured. Again terrorism bids defiance to the state, [to the] society. The organizers and executors, whoever they are, are trying to spark chaos, drive Russia into the abyss of fear, distrust, undermine its economy. There should be no indifferent people in the fight against this evil. Evil does not choose its victims on the basis of national, religious, or racial traits," the Chechen president said.

He said thousands of people died in terror attacks in Chechnya, including the first Chechen president, Akhmad Kadyrov, who was killed by a bomb explosion in a stadium in Chechnya's capital, Grozny, during a WWII victory parade on May 9, 2004.

"During this difficult day for Russia's peoples, we declare with all responsibility that [we] will fight against terrorists until they are completely destroyed. It is impossible to eradicate evil just by persuasion," he said, adding those guilty of the attacks "should be found and punished."

Russia has been fighting militants in the North Caucasus for over a decade, including two brutal separatist wars in Chechnya. Analysts suggest Monday's attacks are revenge for a recent operation in Chechnya that saw the deaths of over 20 radical Islamic fighters.

Aside from Chechnya, violence is also a regular occurrence in the neighboring republics of Ingushetia and Dagestan.

Ingush President Yunus-Bek Yevkurov sent on Monday a telegram to Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov, in which he expressed his condolences to the families of the victims and those affected by the attacks and said he was ready to provide all necessary help and support to the Moscow authorities to minimize the damage caused by the blasts.
 
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Russian FM, Lavrov: Moscow blast masterminds possibly received foreign support

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Fresh flowers on Lubyanka metro station. Photo: RIA Novosti

The twin blast in the Moscow subway could have been organized with support from abroad, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said. At the meeting with journalists, he expressed his opinion that terrorist organizations on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan could back the masterminds of the attacks. He urged the global community to coordinate efforts in the fight against international terrorism and its financial sponsors.

Lavrov: Moscow blast masterminds possibly received foreign support: Voice of Russia
 
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It's difficult to judge how much capacity the rebels have to launch more attacks

It has been several years since the Russian capital was last hit by a major terrorist attack, but yesterday's events recall the early years of Vladimir Putin's presidency, when Chechen terrorists struck at trains, planes and even a theatre in the city. They suggest that a decade after Mr Putin's promise to track down terrorists and "waste them in the outhouse", the Caucasus insurgency still has the ability to strike at the heart of Russia.

Few doubt that the atrocities are the work of groups operating in Chechnya and the other republics of the North Caucasus. The apparent use of female suicide bombers, the "Black Widows" employed in many previous attacks by Chechen rebels, also suggests a link to the restive region.

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Russia has fought two wars in Chechnya, and in recent years has trumpeted the peace and stability brought to the province under the Kremlin-backed hardman Ramzan Kadyrov. Despite allegations of brutality and torture made against Mr Kadyrov's forces, the situation in the republic is ostensibly fairly stable, with only infrequent terrorist attacks. In neighbouring Dagestan and Ingushetia, however, attacks on police and local officials occur on a daily basis. Analysts put the violence down to a potent mix of Islamic fundamentalism, local separatism, a reaction against the brutality of authorities across the region, and endemic corruption.

Despite the rumbling unrest across Russia's south, the authorities have succeeded in keeping terror away from Russia's major cities. But in recent months, the separatists have announced several times that they planned to hit the Russian heartland. The Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov claimed responsibility for a bomb that derailed the Nevsky Express train travelling from Moscow to St Petersburg last November, and in February warned that "the war is coming to their cities".

Russians will hope that yesterday's bombings are an isolated incident, but it is difficult to judge just how much capacity the rebels have to launch more attacks. Mr Kadyrov has claimed on many occasions that the insurgency has been wiped out and that only a few "bandits" remain in the mountains. However, analysts say that while the Chechen fighters have indeed been severely weakened, the brutal policies of Mr Kadyrov, coupled with high levels of corruption and poverty in the North Caucasus, make fertile ground for attracting new recruits.

Last week, a top Russian army official estimated that there are around 500 separatist fighters operating in the North Caucasus. The fighters are constantly on the move, hiding out in the mountainous terrain of Chechnya and its neighbouring republics, or finding shelter with sympathetic families. In recent years, their statements have shifted from localised, separatist concerns to more overtly Islamist, jihadi rhetoric.

In 2006, Russian security forces announced the death of Shamil Basayev, Russia's answer to Osama bin Laden, depriving the resistance of its most charismatic figurehead. Basayev claimed to have organised a number of atrocities, the most horrific of which was the attack on a school in Beslan in 2003, when over 300 died, many of them children.

Since Basayev's death, the resistance has been led by Doku Umarov, who calls himself the Emir of the self-proclaimed Caucasus Emirate. He has so far evaded Russian forces, but this month Said Buryatsky, said to be Umarov's chief ideologue, was killed in a shootout. It is possible that yesterday's attacks were conceived, in part, as revenge.

On some internet forums, opposition-minded Russians speculated that the terrorist attacks may have been supported by elements within the Russian security services, although they offered no evidence to support this theory. Suspicions have long lingered about the series of apartment bombings in 1999 that led to Mr Putin launching the Second Chechen War, with many incongruous details about the blasts lending force to the conspiracy theories.

The political analyst Liliya Shevtsova told Radio Liberty that whoever was behind the attacks, there was likely to be a toughening of the political line from the authorities, as happened after the apartment bombings and the Beslan school siege. Shortly after Beslan, Mr Putin scrapped elections for regional governors and decreed that they would be appointed from Moscow.

"In 2012 there are presidential elections," said Ms Shevtsova. "I can't exclude that in the Russian authorities there are forces who would like to go down the usual route in this situation. The same scheme will work: Terrorist atrocity; threat to national security; strengthening of the regime."


Shaun Walker: Was the motive for Moscow attacks revenge? - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent
 
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Russian FM, Lavrov: Moscow blast masterminds possibly received foreign support


The twin blast in the Moscow subway could have been organized with support from abroad, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said. At the meeting with journalists, he expressed his opinion that terrorist organizations on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan could back the masterminds of the attacks. He urged the global community to coordinate efforts in the fight against international terrorism and its financial sponsors.

Yeah those who finance the terrorist organizations to destablize neighbouring countries should be fought against. In such case BD, SL and Pakistan must join hands to fight against the financial sponsor of their respective rebellion.

About Russia, she is the mother of all evils because of her maddness the peace in Afghanistan and around herself is a nightmare.

Mr. Lavrov should review their policies instead of advicing others to do something coz to those who is referring are at this moment doing their best to fight against terrorism.

Lost just a couple of dozen of people and they are bitting the dust.

KIT Over
 
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ooo bhai (courageneverdies) y are you gettin so emotional. first let her 'opinion' materialise and then we will see wat they have to say.
 
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definitely those chechens and north caucases separatists.chechens are taking revenge for da massacres by da russian army in grozny........thousands were slaughtered by russia and putin.but nyways death to terrorists!!!!!!!!!

sir introduce urself in members club so that we could know you and welcome you.... :)

thanks
 
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ooo bhai (courageneverdies) y are you gettin so emotional. first let her 'opinion' materialise and then we will see wat they have to say.

Not emotional Sir, but a bit furious though 'coz they drag Pakistan in everything without proofs and evidence.

KIT Over
 
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No one accused pakistan!!!
we just quoted what the Russian ambassador had to say.:victory:

Oh yeah, the sincere and truthful indian coverage.

I never had seen anything reported or quoted something positive about Pakistan. Your always propagating negatives about Pakistan makes you biased.

KIT Over
 
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War is inevitable

This time, we all are Russian!

Let Russia, India, China, Pakistan, maybe NATO join together to extinguish Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.
 
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