De-hyphenating India-Pakistan!!

[Levina]

Ha!

What OP says is what RSS says.

Sorry I don't follow RSS, so I do not know their opinion on this.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Shows how ignorant you're about Indians. Lolzzz
Ironical.... since on the 2nd page of this thread you claimed Indians didn't understand a thing about Pakistanis.

Back to the topic about how ppl in India are getting heard by their government agencies.
Did you know that India has more internet users than US and China?? Did you know most of the Indians access net through mobiles??
So we may not be having AC and fans but we have mobiles, we have Internet and we are being heard on social networking sites. Mobiles have revolutionised India.

And why should somebody take you seriously??


Your assumptions!!
@VelocuR did I give you such an impression??


Assuming this was a stupid poll, but you invested your time here by making a post on all the 12 pages of this stupid thread. If somebody as intelligent as you has been posting here then the content of OP was worthy enough to grab your eyeballs....or so I assume.

The problem with Modi haters is that they refuse to look at the other side of the story. It is unfortunate that ppl turn stubborn so often and turn a blind eye to the happenings around them.





I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

One suggestion.

Save your time. Put out your POV once and leave/migrate to another thread. Debating with folks from Pakistan will do you no good. We should be confident and comfortable with out choices. Let them be.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

We already have access to Central Asia, @Arsalan could you please post images, i can't seem to find them. We don't necessarily need Afghanistan route, we are already trading via land with Central Asia, through China. I can't find those images, maybe @Atanz can help too.

Yes, indeed we already do have a link. Not exactly good for mass traffic but yes, link there is. We of course need to upgrade the roads. I will be opening a threade and I will tag you. Your part of the country is like gold dust in terms of connectivity.

 

[VelocuR]

Shows how ignorant you're about Indians. Lolzzz
Ironical.... since on the 2nd page of this thread you claimed Indians didn't understand a thing about Pakistanis.

Back to the topic about how ppl in India are getting heard by their government agencies.
Did you know that India has more internet users than US and China?? Did you know most of the Indians access net through mobiles??
So we may not be having AC and fans but we have mobiles, we have Internet and we are being heard on social networking sites. Mobiles have revolutionised India.

And why should somebody take you seriously??


Your assumptions!!
@VelocuR did I give you such an impression??


Assuming this was a stupid poll, but you invested your time here by making a post on all the 12 pages of this stupid thread. If somebody as intelligent as you has been posting here then the content of OP was worthy enough to grab your eyeballs....or so I assume.

The problem with Modi haters is that they refuse to look at the other side of the story. It is unfortunate that ppl turn stubborn so often and turn a blind eye to the happenings around them.





I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Too many assumptions can be right or wrong, I don't know. Let them think their way and let us think our way. We had been wrong impressions many times, right? It is just tough topics to discuss this issues, I am already tired of same old repeating.

 

[Levina]

Too many assumptions can be right or wrong, I don't know. Let them think their way and let us think our way. We had been wrong impressions many times, right? It is just tough topics to discuss this issues, I am already tired of same old repeating.

You 're obfuscating... But it's okay.
Thanks!!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

@levina what, according to you will be achieved by severing diplomatic ties ?

levina is correct on this one.

Pakistan can even be de-recognized by India. Okay, even suspending diplomatic exchange is fine enough. There are two crucial aspects that comes between any two countries with conflicting interests. That is money and security. Both are connected.

India fought a war against Portugal. Fought (and lost) a war against China. But we remain friends with them. Even with China the rivalry is on a pragmatic level of grown ups where neither side makes the other too uncomfortable.

Pakistan's problem with India is the very presence of it. Especially after the 71 disaster, they have turned more towards religion for salvation. So the simple existence of a Hindu/non Muslim India is reason enough. Before 71, there were chances of peace. But now Pakistan has taken a very different route already. Two whole generations have grown up with Islam as the strength behind Pakistan. How can such people even conceive of true friendship with us? The PDF Pakistanis, I must admit are far more liberal and tolerant (yes, even the more rabid ones). They are all from the upper echelons of society, have stayed abroad, broadened their outlooks etc. But the average Pakistani will not even consider India as a partner in peace, let alone a friend. I am leaving the few secular liberal ones out of the discussion.

The reason for this hate is in religion, their dismemberment, their perception of Islamic superiority etc. They won't accept it and will rationalize it with Kashmir conflict, Khalistan, Tamlistan, Dravidastan etc etc. But the crux of the matter is an emotional cry, a hate for all things non/less Muslim(be it USA, Israel, India).

Countries with religious differences (Muslim/non Muslim) always face severe problems. Sudan vs South Sudan, the Philippines, India Pakistan etc are prime examples. While those without this resolve their differences - Japan, USA, USA and Vietnam etc. Religion does not allow you to make compromises. So there's that. It's best if there is a wall of fire between India and Pakistan. No contact, no exchange, no nothing.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Could poke you back too. Along with dialogue.

poke us back? Aren't you already doing that?

Kashmir will never be resolved the way you wish it to be. Dialogue will come & go but you will get nothing that India does not wish to give. We are even more patient than you, especially because we are the status quo power. Don't think India worries itself if there is no "peace", it is not something that applies only to India solely.

It's been almost over 6 decades... And the kashmir issue is still giving you nightmares ... You can either pretend that it's not or come back to reality..

Aa for status quo.. Do you know there were several chances that could have easily altered that .. But bit taken by our stupid leadership? You seem time doesn't remain status .. Opportunities don't stop emerging either..

Could poke you back too. Along with dialogue.

poke us back? Aren't you already doing that?

Kashmir will never be resolved the way you wish it to be. Dialogue will come & go but you will get nothing that India does not wish to give. We are even more patient than you, especially because we are the status quo power. Don't think India worries itself if there is no "peace", it is not something that applies only to India solely.

It's been almost over 6 decades... And the kashmir issue is still giving you nightmares ... You can either pretend that it's not or come back to reality..

Aa for status quo.. Do you know there were several chances that could have easily altered that .. But bit taken by our stupid leadership? You seem time doesn't remain status .. Opportunities don't stop emerging either..

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sorry I don't follow RSS, so I do not know their opinion on this.

please educate yourself about politics in Bharat.

 

[Levina]

please educate yourself about politics in Bharat.

That should be my line.

 

[Dash]

The only possible way in which this issue can be solved is by solving the Kashmir issue, because that is the primary issue between the two countries.

The only possible solution for that is reunification of Kashmir and returning it to India control.
Then, we can have long-lasting peace, forget about and ignore each other and move on in our own courses.

There is no solving of Kashmir issue from our side. Be with us or be next Palestine... Period

 

[Dash]

levina is correct on this one.

Pakistan can even be de-recognized by India. Okay, even suspending diplomatic exchange is fine enough. There are two crucial aspects that comes between any two countries with conflicting interests. That is money and security. Both are connected.

India fought a war against Portugal. Fought (and lost) a war against China. But we remain friends with them. Even with China the rivalry is on a pragmatic level of grown ups where neither side makes the other too uncomfortable.

Pakistan's problem with India is the very presence of it. Especially after the 71 disaster, they have turned more towards religion for salvation. So the simple existence of a Hindu/non Muslim India is reason enough. Before 71, there were chances of peace. But now Pakistan has taken a very different route already. Two whole generations have grown up with Islam as the strength behind Pakistan. How can such people even conceive of true friendship with us? The PDF Pakistanis, I must admit are far more liberal and tolerant (yes, even the more rabid ones). They are all from the upper echelons of society, have stayed abroad, broadened their outlooks etc. But the average Pakistani will not even consider India as a partner in peace, let alone a friend. I am leaving the few secular liberal ones out of the discussion.

The reason for this hate is in religion, their dismemberment, their perception of Islamic superiority etc. They won't accept it and will rationalize it with Kashmir conflict, Khalistan, Tamlistan, Dravidastan etc etc. But the crux of the matter is an emotional cry, a hate for all things non/less Muslim(be it USA, Israel, India).

Countries with religious differences (Muslim/non Muslim) always face severe problems. Sudan vs South Sudan, the Philippines, India Pakistan etc are prime examples. While those without this resolve their differences - Japan, USA, USA and Vietnam etc. Religion does not allow you to make compromises. So there's that. It's best if there is a wall of fire between India and Pakistan. No contact, no exchange, no nothing.

Would defer in one angle that the PDF Pakistani is better equipped with words and sword to play masquerade games and easily diplomatic. Average Pakistani is an average Indian who don't even know what is the issue. . they have their own issues and not interested in rivalry. They get fed with what is available in the market .

 

[Arsalan]

The pictures of Karakorum highway, connecting Pakistan to central Asia. If i remember correctly you once posted these images.

WEll i do not remember that exact map but here is a similar one:

Plus it is no secret that the Karakorum Highway connect Pakistan with China and from there we get access to central Asia.

There is no solving of Kashmir issue from our side. Be with us or be next Palestine... Period

hmmm.. This post goes a long way in showing how "Integral" of a part Kashmir is to you

 

[Dash]

WEll i do not remember that exact map but here is a similar one:

Plus it is no secret that the Karakorum Highway connect Pakistan with China and from there we get access to central Asia.


hmmm.. This post goes a long way in showing how "Integral" of a part Kashmir is to you

Of course. We will absorb the good 98% and rest 2% will get their tickets.

 

[Arsalan]

Of course. We will absorb the good 98% and rest 2% will get their tickets.

98% of Palestinians want to join with Israel?

 

[Dash]

98% of Palestinians want to join with Israel?

Seems like the equation changes in India's favor.