Daudzai [considered most pro-Pakistan]: Pakistan will never cooperate with the Afghan peace process

[pakistani342]

Oh this is sublime -- we Pakistanis will never learn.

For all the Pakistanis jumping up and down at the chahat-ki-asha after Ghani sab's visit might know that HE Omar Daudzai was Afghanistan's Interior Minister until a few days ago and before that he was Afghanistan's foreign minister to Pakistan and widely considered to be amongst the few Pro Pakistani Afghans left.

He has just said -- drum roll: The former Afghan Minister of Interior has said Islamabad will not cooperate with the Afghan government in peace process with the anti-government militant groups.

do-bara do-bara !!!!!

When will we learn -- on Pakistan all Afghans are the same -- they hate us Pakistanis -- women, children, old, young, educated, boor.

Article on Khaama here, excerpts below:

Speaking during a press conference on Thursday, Daudzai said previous government has attempted on numerous occasions to persuade Islamabad to assist the government in peace process.

Daudzai further added that similar approach by the new government would be a waste of time.


He called on President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani to undertake a new approach towards the peace process, insisting that Islamabad will never assist the Afghan government in this regard.

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According to Daudzai, decisions were taken last year to hand over a specific region within the Afghan soil to the Taliban control.

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Daudzai warned that the conspiracies have not ended and new apporoaches will be undertaken by Taliban group and their supporters next year.

 

[zaid butt]

why you post this thread

 

[pakistani342]

why you post this thread

Kiey gala butt saab -- nahin post karna chahida?

 

[zaid butt]

Kiey gala butt saab -- nahin post karna chahida?

first of all its not gala butt its gulu butt and secondly behaive your self
what if i call you wlaiti kukri how it feels to you

 

[Men in Green]

first of all its not gala butt its gulu butt and secondly behaive your self
what if i call you wlaiti kukri how it feels to you

 

[pakistani342]

first of all its not gala butt its gulu butt and secondly behaive your self
what if i call you wlaiti kukri how it feels to you

Naraz houn di key lor hay -- tousey itraz kita -- main puchaya kay kis wastay itraz kita tousey

 

[Dalit]

Hell, continue to erect the wall/fence till we don't see the other side any more. We don't want to hear and see them any more. It's time that Afghanistan took care of its own problems.

 

[Selous]

When will we learn -- on Pakistan all Afghans are the same -- they hate us Pakistanis -- women, children, old, young, educated, boor.

Somehow I don't think that I am the only one here who would disagree with you on that point. You in your infinite wisdom decided to summarize the feelings and emotions of an entire nation towards their neighbouring nation (a nation that not only shares the same religion, customs and people but actually took in 3 million or so refugees from Afghanistan), into a single word...and the word you chose was "hate" ?

 

[MastanKhan]

Kiey gala butt saab -- nahin post karna chahida?

Hi,


It would be fair to say that Pakistan should hit the taliban as hard it can for the next 4 months---and then start to send back some of the refugees beginning march 2015 in batches----.

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

Hi,

The poster was not disrespectful to you----there was no reason for the insult.

It would be fair to say that Pakistan should hit the taliban as hard it can for the next 4 months---and then start to send back some of the refugees beginning march 2015 in batches----.

I think that he was misunderstood. He said 'kiye Gall aa Butt Saab' (what's the matter Butt Saab) but he wrote it as 'Gala' rather than 'Gall aa' which technically needs to be separate. Isn't it what you said @pakistani342 . I have a feeling that @zaid butt bhai misunderstood him

Somehow I don't think that I am the only one here who would disagree with you on that point. You in your infinite wisdom decided to summarize the feelings and emotions of an entire nation towards their neighbouring nation (a nation that not only shares the same religion, customs and people but actually took in 3 million or so refugees from Afghanistan), into a single word...and the word you chose was "hate" ?

Certain sections of the international media have created this myth that somehow ALL Afghans are rabid Anti-Pakistan haters. If that was the case, certain countries won't be whining all day about Pakistani influence in Afghanistan.
An average Afghan from the country-side can not be judged on the basis of a very small minority of elite in one or two cities. This is precisely what propagandists HAVE been capable of projecting and this is where Pak media organs have failed. Some Pakistanis do imbibe this idea though nowadays which is unfortunate. This is not an accurate picture of Afghan society though.

 

[pakistani342]

I think that he was misunderstood. He said 'kiye Gall aa Butt Saab' (what's the matter Butt Saab) but he wrote it as 'Gala' rather than 'Gall aa' which technically needs to be separate. Isn't it what you said @pakistani342 . I have a feeling that @zaid butt bhai misunderstood him

Jee janab, Butt sab nay puchyia:
*Vhy you post this thread!!!*

main huzoor kulon puchyia:
Nai post karna chida si? Ki pata koi bohat baRi ghustakhi ho gai

phair Butt sab nay *poultry farming* tay hikmat sada nal *share* kiti

uday baad mastankhan sab nay vi ihtijaj kita -- aina ghousa aina ghousa

Farsi da mouhavra haga hay:
Dushman-e dana behtar-az dust-e nadana

...

ANA Zendabod

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@pakistani342

Why, specifically, was Daudzai considered pro-Pakistan?

From what I can gather from open source information, Daudzai was one of Karzai's closest confidantes and also extremely close to Iran.

 

[pakistani342]

@pakistani342

Why, specifically, was Daudzai considered pro-Pakistan?

From what I can gather from open source information, Daudzai was one of Karzai's closest confidantes and also extremely close to Iran.

Very good question,

I don't have the specific references handy but:
1. When presidential candidates were being considered [2014 Afghan election] -- it was rumored that Daudzai may run as a potential Karzai proxy. I think it was often mentioned in those articles that Daudzai is perceived to be Pro-Pakistani and would enjoy the support of the Pakistani deep state.
2. He served as ambassador (for a long time?) to Pakistan and again there were references that he had close contacts with the Pakistani establishment and the words that come to mind were that he was appreciative/sympathetic to Pakistan's position.
3. As you rightly pointed out -- he was a member of Karzai's inner circle and considered a powerful and competent operator -- amongst Karzai's inner circle the names that typically pop up as those who are not rabidly anti Pakistan (at least publically) are: Omar Zakhilwal, Abdul Karim Khoram, and HE Daudzai -- there are others but those are names that come immediately to ones mind.
4. On Iran -- yes I do recollect that -- was he involved with the bags of money scandal?

Hope that helps

Thanks.

 

[Sugarcane]

was Afghanistan's Interior Minister until a few days ago

If there is "was" with his designation than does it matter what he says now? imho - Afghan govt. have to listen and cooperate with US for funds and China for investments, so willingly or unwillingly they have to behave as they don't have luxury of aid flow like Karzai had. So, we should hope for best but keep preparing for worst i.e. securing our western border just like eastern.

 

[Usama78]

Best of Luck Afghans, May you and us both be prosperous!

I believe we should let them deal with their problems themselves and help only if asked. Mind me, Secure our interests as first priority, though.