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i dont know when this baby will come out of stomach
8 mahine ho gaye koi 1 mahina rah dekhne ke liye tyiar nahi. bus sijerian karwana chahte he.
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i dont know when this baby will come out of stomach
@Sancho the Brazilian airforce wanted the Gripen not the Rafale it was their 1st choice but due to pressure + the the deal struck with France for help on their N sub they were compelled to go for Rafale. At the moment that tender is still up in the air and the F18 is back in the race the last I heard.
Like i said before nobody wants the Rafale when you can have the EF it is 2nd best and always will be end of matter.
Also the Swiss can't even afford the rafale how they going to pay for EF? they cancelled the whole tender process and will start for new budget year
Europe is going for F-35s and India should take EFT which has no future and with a high price tag?
Tranche 3 is in shackles unless they milk the money from India. On the other hand Rafale will serve France for a longer time and there is immense scope for it to transform into 5th GEN in future.
Bids open for fighter aircraft, likely to be a political call - Indian Express
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India’s largest international defence contract to purchase a new fleet of fighter aircraft is heading for a political decision after commercial bids of the two final contenders — Dassault’s Rafale and EADS’s Eurofighter — were opened amidst high secrecy at the Defence Ministry on Friday evening.
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While the French Rafale came out to be slightly cheaper than the European Consortium’s Eurofighter in terms of ‘fly away cost’ per unit, as expected, the difference was less than 5 per cent. This throws the competition open.
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A final call on the winner will of course be made by the Cabinet Committee on Security, that will have the discretion of taking political, strategic and financial considerations into account.
That means technical and financial parameters are done with and have failed to decide the winner and only political one is left ? or It is also done as told by Subramanian swamy ?
Europe is going for F-35s and India should take EFT which has no future and with a high price tag?
Tranche 3 is in shackles unless they milk the money from India. On the other hand Rafale will serve France for a longer time and there is immense scope for it to transform into 5th GEN in future.
What do you mean by future? the 300th Eurofighter Typhoon was delivered to Italy just recent. How many Rafales does France have? 180 ordered, 93 delivered as of December 2010 so how can you say EF has no future?
Let's not forget the Japan tender and the Saudis will order more in future.
Yes Europe its broke and needs funds but that only means they will be more despo to win and give more in terms of tech transfer, BAE have a partnership with Mahindra Defence Systems as it is and have setup a r&d hub in India as well.
Clearly, it's also a time ripe for reading into everything. The Pioneer newspaper suggests that a meeting between the Indian Prime Minister and French President in Cannes on the sidelines of the ongoing G20 summit, inexplicably cancelled at the last minute, suggested that France had lost the competition.
Clearly, it's also a time ripe for reading into everything. The Pioneer newspaper suggests that a meeting between the Indian Prime Minister and French President in Cannes on the sidelines of the ongoing G20 summit, inexplicably cancelled at the last minute, suggested that France had lost the competition.
Commitment orders. They wont further develop it for their own purchases.
All the countries involved have cut down their orders and have opted for F-35.
Japan is done and the order is for US. Saudi well they even buy if F-22 is available.
Comparing France is not good as the orders are for single country. Their production facility is having a decent pace and since its already in a "developed" state any further advancements are given bonuses.
Clearly, it's also a time ripe for reading into everything. The Pioneer newspaper suggests that a meeting between the Indian Prime Minister and French President in Cannes on the sidelines of the ongoing G20 summit, inexplicably cancelled at the last minute, suggested that France had lost the competition.
Never knew MMS talked about fighter jets at places like G-20
Yes they cut their orders due to the economic situation which they find themselves in which makes them even more desperate. It is a myth there is no further development funded for the EF just look at this baby for one:
http://www.****************/new-helmet-enables-eurofighter-pilots-to-look-lock-on-and-fire-31079/
"The plan is to, over the next eight to 10 years, take a phased approach to enhancing the Typhoon's capability," says Rob Wells, Eurofighter's export future business manager. "It is the exports that are driving these enhancements."
Eurofighter unveiled the plans, which include optional conformal fuel tanks, at IDEX 2011. Other enhancements include the option of MBDA's Meteor beyond visual-range air-to-air missile from 2014 and an active electronically scanned array radar that potentially offers a wider field of regard from 2015.
New air-to-surface weapons would include anti-ship missiles, stand-off-range cruise missiles and long-range glide bombs. A thrust-vectoring nozzle is also being offered for the aircraft's Eurojet EJ200 turbofan engines.
I can see the EF winning more tenders in the future for sure and more countries will operate the fighter that is why it will have a brighter future to the unwanted 2nd best Rafale and soon you will see the EF in Indian colours