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[sancho]

Here u are wrong.
The project inking and also the fgfa project has been delayed to decrease the current account deficit

Oh boy...

 

[he-man]

Oh boy...

thats a fact

 

[rockstarIN]

thats a fact

Are we paying us dollars to russia

 

[he-man]

Are we paying us dollars to russia

cad increases with any import,not just dollar trade.

 

[dbc]

Yes, they can't do it alone, that's why they went for the JV with Thales.



Where did I said it would? I said that the missile is aimed on the same performance and similar capabilities like the R77s, since the main idea is to replace them in the Indian inventory. But neither does it looks like we have met the performance, nor is it developed with much foresight, when you already develop NG fighters.



I read that there were some developments in that direction, not sure which company it was, but by the fact that we are completely dependent on Israeli FLIRs or optical sights, the success should be limited. Aren't even the IR sights of the MBT upgrades Israeli, not to mention the FLIRs of combat helicopters or surveillance aircrafts?



Which is why took the „system“ cost, which includes most of this except for weapons, that will be added in seperate deals.



Those are at least the procurements that were reportedly the closest to be sealed and most likely aimed at the coming budget. What priority they have, is as said dependent on IAF, not on us. But yes, for me that order would be the way to go.



You talked about the budget for new procurements, not upgrades or orders already taken like the A50 AWACS, or the Mirage upgrades. Even if they are due in 2014, they must had been budgeted earlier.

I'd argue mid air refueling assets and AWACS are far more important than the MMRCA deal. As for tooling at HAL I think that will be HAL's CAPEX and separate from the IAF's budget. I don't see why the IAF will pay for tooling at HAL?

well if, ethopian conflict is your benchmark for operational validity, then you win... Aim 120 is the best, we are just uneducated to realize that.

Why so defensive? You were the first to bring Ethiopia into the discussion.

 

[MilSpec]

Why so defensive? You were the first to bring Ethiopia into the discussion.

read again...

 

[rockstarIN]

cad increases with any import,not just dollar trade.

Not talking about the rate but reserve. We had problem for only dollars not other currencies.

 

[he-man]

Not talking about the rate but reserve. We had problem for only dollars not other currencies.

Reserve cannot be used for these deals,its for emergency situations.

We have problem importing due to weak currency against dollar and euro both so we are hoping it eases soon.

Otherwise pakfa deal should have been signed 2 years back,there is nothing to even negotiate there.the deal got stuck on money front.

Same is the case with mki upgrade,we have opened far too many fronts at the same time and don't forget the budget for iaf is like 6-8 billion only(need to check).

But yeah we need to get these birds as defence is paramount

 

[SpArK]

 

[halloweene]

Rafael targets Indian Rafale opportunity

Rafael targets Indian Rafale opportunity - 4/7/2014 - Flight Global

 

[sancho]

I'd argue mid air refueling assets and AWACS are far more important than the MMRCA deal.

The tankers are not, since offensive strike capability has far more importance. I wouldn't mind additional AWACS either, sadly they are not on the list (A50 Phalcons already ordered) and might be delayed for new indigenous AWACS developments.

 

[sancho]

Weapons on offer for Indian Rafales:

- AIM 9X / AIM 120D
- Paveway LGB / JDAM PGM
- HARM / HARPOON

- R73 / R77
- Kh 31
- Brahmos M

- Python V / Derby
- SPICE

Brimstone was on offer, but might have been gone now, after high integration costs were asked. MBDA also is offering AASM 125 and 1000, although both might have low chances in India compared to their Israeli counterparts.

 

[Sergi]

The tankers are not, since offensive strike capability has far more importance. I wouldn't mind additional AWACS either, sadly they are not on the list (A50 Phalcons already ordered) and might be delayed for new indigenous AWACS developments.

No they are not delayed. They have green signal for follow on. But in current fiscal. So say order will go in two months of new GOI.
Source is chai vala

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Are we paying us dollars to russia

You should order a couple of hundred PAK-FA's from Russia, then You pay with VISA/AmEX.
They can't cash in US Credit Cards (due to Crimea), so You get the planes for free .

 

[Abingdonboy]

thats a fact

No it's not, in fact the facts state otherwise.......