You could bargain for some of the Super Hornets to be Growler wired from the factory....Growlers are good.. But US will not be ready....
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You could bargain for some of the Super Hornets to be Growler wired from the factory....Growlers are good.. But US will not be ready....
I am not able to find any such details for EJ .. but it is one of the most modern like FADEC and has a high growth potential.. For Snecma M88-3 is still a dream...
History
Although the M88 engine cycle is similar to that of the Eurojet EJ200, it is smaller and lower in thrust. Other differences are that the M88 has fan variable camber inlet guide vanes, the HP compressor has a 6th stage and the exhaust nozzle is of the ejector type. Like its contemporaries, it features state of the art technologies such as single-crystal high-pressure turbine blades, powder metallurgy discs and FADEC.
For Ground attack.... we can assume it has already got a capability equal to Rafael.. if IAF found this feature not available it would have kissed good bye while scrutinizing the features saying it did not fit there requirement...so far IAF has not rejected any Fighter so we can assume it has got the capability during the trials...
If Production line of RAFAEL is empty it shows the success of there product.. what will you prefer if you are a business owner? a product which is successfully running across many companies/prospect customers.. or a product deployed in only one company and hoping for prospect customers?? I guess any owner will logically choose the former ... due to many reasons...
You could bargain for some of the Super Hornets to be Growler wired from the factory....
http://www.scramble.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Snecma_M88
Btw, the M88-3 development started in 2000 and prototypes are ready and even made tests, but the French don't need it and that's why they didn't funded it. If we go for a Kaveri - Snecma development, it's core is likely to be used as the base.
Not really, the EF still has only very limited A2G capabilities, lacks A2G missiles completelly, can carry the targeting pod only by reducing one fuel tank, which of course limits the range and the integration of further weapons is still running slow.
Rafale on the other hand offers PGMs, anti ship and cruise missiles and now is even nuclear capable with the ASMP missile (although I doubt we will get it). It offers more weapon stations, has more payload and range and an excellent EWS, which makes it the close 2nd to the Super Hornet, but the EF is by far not comparabel in this field!
What do you prefer? A fighter where the owners has not the money to fund integration of important weapons, techs and upgrades, as well are reducing their initial orders. Or do you prefer a fighter where the production line are runing slow, but orders are fully according plans and recently even increased + is still cheaper per unit!
How?
Don't you guys already claim that MKI is best, after F-22.
What capabilities does SH give IAF, that you don't already have with MKI?
As i am saying EF hasnt got the required capability it will be rejected.. and for sure EF is not rejected which shows the confidence on what they posses...
And EF has given impressive Ground attack capabilities in Wiki.. Not sure what was in the offer to MMRCA..
And for Sea capabilities there is a separate tender for Navy ... and Su will be there.. I dont think IAF has given any request for sea capbilities
And you have any news article which says owners are not having funds for integrating weapons??..
So you mean to say France has got huge funds for there fighter program for future upgrades .. when 4 countries are not having funds how come a single country do??
As i see Rafael has not got much future.. not even a single prominent export customer.
As a customer i will prefer a Fighter which should suite my requirement and should be a good product and the liability in the future upgrade should not fall on my head... so what will you choose? entire Liability on your head kya?... see things on business terms..
so chance of it going to China is more which is more dangerous than PAF getting trained on EF... Where as EF is not so.. they have good customers and good orders in the pocket.. with so much countries Future upgrades will be equally shared.. and they have ban on China
See long term goal.. With EADS we get Civil aviation.. what do Rafael provides?? The consortium will setup a development center in India for future upgrade what about Rafael only ToT...
in every angel Typhoon looks good...
True, the Indian Air Force did not ask for it specifically in the tender, but it cannot nevertheless be ruled out. The Navy's future aircraft carriers will need aircraft and there is a separate tender for it. But there are huge advantages in logistics, training, cost of induction and maintenance if the same aircraft is operated by both the air force and the navy and it will undoubtedly be considered in the competition. So here, the Eurofighter is at a disadvantage whereas the rafale and the Super Hornet are at an advantage.
Search the internet (or go through this thread) and you will find that there are tons of such articles. In fact BENNY had posted an article just a few days ago which stated that the Typhoon will only have a PESA radar.
France is undoubtedly having difficulties in funding the Rafale, but The French Air Force and Navy have already committed to the Rafale. In fact, the Rafale was developed with the aim to replace every single fighter aircraft in the inventory of the French Armed Forces (a fighter fit for any role). So there will surely be further development. France is looking to export the Rafale to help fund it's further development (and of course make some money).
On the other hand, the Eurofighter Typhoon was designed as an air superiority fighter. It was only later that ground attack capability was included (though it comes no where close to the Rafale). The severe limitations of the Typhoon in ground attack capability was already mentioned in sufficient detail by sancho in his post.
All 4 nations of the Eurofighter Consortium are members of the F-35 program as well and so all their resources and money is not directed towards the development of the Typhoon. These countries feel that it is better to go for the F-35 and are preparing to induct as much of it as they can. In fact, these countries are now reducing their initial orders and chances for further development are low.
When looking from the "business" point of view, the Eurofighter does not look attractive at all. It doesn't suite all the requirements (poor ground attack, lack of AESA), it does not seem to have much of a future (member nations unwilling to fund further development, withdrawing their initial orders) amd is the least financially viable (most expensive) despite having the worst ground attack ability, no AESA, no naval version, no commonality with any fighters (current or planned) in the Indian inventory).
The Rafale on the other hand has the full support of the French navy and Air Force, so it definitely has a future. It suits all the requirements perfectly and is economically viable. It is the second most expensive, but we can save costs in induction & training (commonality with existing Mirages), maintenance & production costs (Kaveri engine option) and if it is chosen for our future aircraft carriers.
The Chinese have Su-30MKMs which aren't too different from our Su-30MKIs, but that didn't stop us from acquiring them. the Russians are always trying to sell military equipment to China, yet Russia has been for all these years our foremost arms supplier.
Yes India will not be equal.. but India will be asked to give some contribution.. so something is better than nothing.. We are going as buyer seller but EADS has decided to take as 5th partner..India will not be an equal member in the consortium. Even the French have stated they intend to go beyond a buyer-seller relationship with India, though they have not indicated how.
MKI is the most advanced fighters of its class.. :
thats debatable...
thats debatable...
Just add GRIPEN and AMEN...
Can't we make LCA to Gripen standard? since both r using the same engine, of course it will take time but