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Swiss RUAG won the contract for producing parts of Rafales RBE 2 AESA radar, the first radars will be provided to French Rafales in the seconed half of next year!
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Thnx -get it done as soon as possible
I am also trying to get my friends from IAF ( Batchmates) to help me out with this.
For me ,French in-fact whole Europe Is behind America in Maturing their Radar technology.
They missed their bus right from the start-with respect to manufacturing MMICs, both commercially and militarily.Even today Europe is only beginning to catch up to where the US was in the late 1990s manufacturing them . Same goes with Russians
Still many of specs has been kept classified which creates more doubt regarding performance of most of their radars.
Their design which i assume would be based on current RBE PESA - and seeing nose dimension of fighter itself it wont support modules more than any other one esp F18. Thales product brochure only says near 1000 but dosen't specify may be 900 we dont know.
As I said above that is only true in regards to radar, but neither in avionics, design, or weapon development they really need US help. The simple difference is, European countries don't spend that much money for such developments as the US does.Point is All European fighters are a superbly designed machines but for obtaining maximum performance of them - they Require American help and sustained funds which some nations are not willing.
That is not correct, these are funded by France itself, because these are normal upgrades of exsisting techs and fall into the new F3 standard. What is not funded so far are integration of CFTs and HMS if I'm not wrong, as well es the funding of a higher thrust engine and exactly here India would be the perfect partner!Rafale no doubt is an epitome of Delta wing design, but dosent provide enough bang for bucks French are asking.
And all newer technology which they are implementing in phased manner like
New AESA ,
New processors for SPECTRA require lot of funds ,
I can bet India is not ready to provide that .
If they it themselves and French gov help ,it will reflect in Pricing of aircraft itself which is already overpriced.
Thnx Mate
Actually , this article also got published in Asian Age Mumbai edition.
Nevertheless , what is your take .
I mean has this something to do with talk of getting ELTA-2052 which is in final stages on American jets to get full TOT compliant deal.
My guess is if ZHUK-MSF AE as promised by NIIR in 2012 is ready , its performance will be twice than earlier AESA , so this radar theory dosen't apply on MIG.( Janes is reliable but still Mig theory dosent hold promise to me)
My Bet is, it has something to do with Eurofighter and Gripen case.
Even last line 300 MRCA - total waste. Nos always fluctuated bcoz of LCA earlier , but with IOC in 2011 .
MRCA will remain at 126.
I feel this "parallel" development is essentially a means to keep the MMRCA program viable. Though RFP requirements stated AESA, most companies are still developing the same and thus IAF wants to mitigate the risks by hedging against any vendor failing to come up with the said system in time. This would make it possible for IAF to select the bird with the best "performance" even if it has sub-optimal radar performance. I also feel that LCA will have no bearing on the numbers of MMRCA procured (and vice versa) as they are in different categories. Moreover, with the current expansion of PAF & PLAAF and the stated need of 42+ squadrons for IAF, I foresee higher numbers of MMRCA (atleast 189). The issue with LCA IMO is the number of hardpoints/ payload limitations which seriously limit its role in a full scale war. MMRCA candidates provide exceptional payload which is considered important by IAF.
Looking at the IAF fleet, with jaguar, mirage and mig-29 upgrades; these birds should keep flying for another 15 years. DRDO/ IAF hopes to replace mirage/ jaguars with AMCA while the mig-29's will eventually be replaced with FGFA (post 2025). Thus the mki's, MMRCA, LCA will be independent programs. This would suggest 150-200 AMCA (at the max). Moreover, with the advent of UCAV's, the reliance on fighters should drop further. Thus with ~300 mki's, ~200 LCA's & ~200 MMRCA's, we get 35~36 squadrons. The MMRCA IMO will act as the first replacements of jaguars as well (since IAF RFP clearly indicated 2 specific squadrons for twin seat aircrafts for strike roles apart from additional twin seat trainers).
Let us see what happens as these are still years away and we will have a better picture only by 2020.
With regard to hardpoints/payload, all the MMRCA contenders (barring mig-35) approach or surpass that of su-30. Moreover, one look at RFP will tell you that IAF is also looking at some of these birds for strike role (the number of twin seaters required is disproportionate to the number of single seaters)
Some clarifications
Gripen , F16 - I doubt that they have load like Su30 esp Fuel on Board.
And when you take high wing loading into account - esp of F16 , Rafale its T/W ratio drops considerably.
And one of the Req to operate at LEH, i mean could be doubtful.
Secondly This nos div between single seater and Double seater , i never came across such news / article . any link
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Flight trials for India’s biggest defense procurement program, the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA), are underway. India will acquire 126 aircraft—86 single-seat and 40 twin-seat configurations.
by which year first squadron of MRCA will be inducted and secondly by which year their serial production will get started.
The aim is 2014 and the first squad (18 fighters) will be delivered from winning country, the licence production should start 1 year later, when the production Su 30 MKI could end.by which year first squadron of MRCA will be inducted and secondly by which year their serial production will get started.