Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[anant_s]

i like what i see here..

Hope i see a same pic with our carriers as well...

@Abingdonboy @anant_s @Vergennes @Picdelamirand-oil @GuardianRED @Taygibay

Charles De Gaulle?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Charles De Gaulle?

Yes...

 

[randomradio]

An interesting thing read in the french news paper "Les Echos" some days ago :

1) When Modi came in Paris last year, He and Hollande didn't speak of Rafale during the private meeting. It was very disapointing for JY Le Drian and Hollande himself. It was only in front of the journalists that Modi express the need for 36 planes off the shelf (and if you see the figure of Hollande, we understand better now why).

Naturally. It became Parrikar's project.

2) The deal was to be inked during Hollande's visit in India at the beginning of 2016, but some last bargaining blocked it. Four months after that, JY Le Drian wrote to his counterpart to explain bargaining was over : The french team had made their last and final offer. It was to take or to leave.

The rest is well known yet.

Not just negotiations, offsets delay also had a part to play.

 

[BON PLAN]

elaborate please ..not able to catch up what you meant

Hollande seemed very surprised hearing this news from Indian PM.

Any weapon like long range glide bomb tested or offered on Rafale ?

YES ! Hammer bomb (or Hammer missile.... as it's a mix between a free fall guided bomb and a missile)

i like what i see here..

Hope i see a same pic with our carriers as well...

@Abingdonboy @anant_s @Vergennes @Picdelamirand-oil @GuardianRED @Taygibay

I've heard this morning on radio that all the 24 Rafale abord were intended to fly this day against IS.
And Yes, it's the Charles de Gaulle carrier.

 

[Taygibay]

The jets can carry tactical nuclear warheads, and this means India's nuclear deterrence capability will be greatly improved, Shenzhen Television reported.

No it won't, at least not without a vector. Since ASMP wasn't sold and Brahmos-NG
having started development in May of this year only is a few years to fruition, the
above statement is a fallacy. Fr Raffys can nuke, Indian Rafales won't ... for now.

"India also wants to purchase the Rafale technology from Dassault but France refused, meaning France has no intention to help India promote its military industrial system," said Zhao Gancheng, director of South Asia Studies at the Shanghai Institutes for International Studies.

I'd like something more than this gentlemen's title to enable me to follow his point.

Many other countries with an advanced military industry are also competing for India's market, such as Russia, the US and Israel, SIPRI said.

LOL If it wasn't for diplomatic reasons, the same would apply for China ...
and we'll soon see when they start selling top mil ware to other nations
exactly how discriminatory they shall be!

Zhao said before this deal with France, India was also considering the US-made F-16. "India picked French-made jet fighters because they are cheaper and have a nuclear deterrence capability."

Whut? ETC.

By the way, F-16s can carry the B-61 so moot point.
​

"The majority of Asian states don't have a comprehensive and developed military industry, but they have ...

Sure, Indonesia comes to mind, SoKo, heck, Japan!
Incrazyble!

Song Zhongping, a Beijing-based military expert, told the Global Times on Thursday that NATO members have a near monopoly on the global arms market, due to their advanced military technology and strong manufacturing capabilities, especially the US.

How many years of study did it take to quote like a 15 year-old?
Plus, again from above, Japan anyone?
That's the second time this piece mistook ability to and factual action.

According to the Shenzhen Television report, India will deploy its new French-made fighters in the disputed areas bordering Pakistan and China.

Really? And here I thought GoI wanted the best fighter available to quell
the rebellion in Telangana and that the Raffys would be based in Goa!

So a lot of huffin' and puffin' and talking crazy only to morph into this :

"There are two objective factors boosting arms deals in Asia: the chaos in the Middle East and fears over China's rise," he noted.

Yeah, India's gonna bomb Gaza soon ...

Many of China's neighbors are also on the list of top 10 importers, such as Vietnam, South Korea and India.

"Due to the South China Sea dispute and the increasing power of the Chinese navy, countries like Vietnam and the Philippines are very concerned, but the US is not helping China solve the problem peacefully," Song said.

"The US government and media are hyping the 'China Threat Theory,' trying to convince countries in Asia that China is on the offensive," he said.

Where India buying French jets turns into America badmouthing
the disgracious mess Beijing is brewing in the SCS for nefarious
reasons! Wait! What? Why?

A propaghandi piece, and not a very good one at that.

You really shouldn't encourage such childish behaviour, PariK my friend!
And great day all, Tay.

 

[mike2000 is back]

No it won't, at least not without a vector. Since ASMP wasn't sold and Brahmos-NG
having started development in May of this year only being a few years to fruition, the
above statement is a fallacy. Fr Raffys can nuke, Indian Rafales won't ... for now.



I'd like something more than this gentlemen's title to enable me to follow his point.



LOL If it wasn't for diplomatic reasons, the same would apply for China ...
and we'll soon see when they start selling top mil ware to other nations
exactly how discriminatory they shall be!



Whut? ETC.

By the way, F-16s can carry the B-61 so moot point.
​

Sure, Indonesia comes to mind, SoKo, heck, Japan!
Incrazyble!



How many years of study did it take to quote like a 15 year-old?
Plus, again from above, Japan anyone?
That's the second time this piece mistook ability to and factual action.



Really? And here I thought GoI wanted the best fighter available to quell
the rebellion in Telangana and that the Raffys would be based in Goa!

So a lot of huffin' and puffin' and talking crazy only to morph into this :

Yeah, India's gonna bomb Gaza soon ...


Where India buying French jets turns into America badmouthing
the disgracious mess Beijing is brewing in the SCS for nefarious
reasons! Wait! What? Why?

A propaghandi piece, and not a very good one at that.

You really shouldn't encourage such childish behaviour, PariK my friend!
And great day all, Tay.

It's Global Times. What do you expect?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

No it won't, at least not without a vector. Since ASMP wasn't sold and Brahmos-NG
having started development in May of this year only being a few years to fruition, the
above statement is a fallacy. Fr Raffys can nuke, Indian Rafales won't ... for now.



I'd like something more than this gentlemen's title to enable me to follow his point.



LOL If it wasn't for diplomatic reasons, the same would apply for China ...
and we'll soon see when they start selling top mil ware to other nations
exactly how discriminatory they shall be!



Whut? ETC.

By the way, F-16s can carry the B-61 so moot point.
​

Sure, Indonesia comes to mind, SoKo, heck, Japan!
Incrazyble!



How many years of study did it take to quote like a 15 year-old?
Plus, again from above, Japan anyone?
That's the second time this piece mistook ability to and factual action.



Really? And here I thought GoI wanted the best fighter available to quell
the rebellion in Telangana and that the Raffys would be based in Goa!

So a lot of huffin' and puffin' and talking crazy only to morph into this :

Yeah, India's gonna bomb Gaza soon ...


Where India buying French jets turns into America badmouthing
the disgracious mess Beijing is brewing in the SCS for nefarious
reasons! Wait! What? Why?

A propaghandi piece, and not a very good one at that.

You really shouldn't encourage such childish behaviour, PariK my friend!
And great day all, Tay.

You should enjoy the heartburn and discredit with false information...
I posted it bcz once when MIi comes, i dont know what more they will write.....

but if that is an official position written by a Think tank, then i really dont get it... Jealousy, guarded response, alarmist, or just write anything for the heck of it really...

It's Global Times. What do you expect?

exactly

 

[Agent_47]

 

[Agent_47]

DefesaNet flight tested India’s new fighter. Our test pilot pushed Dassault’s fighter jet to her limits, and here ‘le Commandant Vianney’ shares his impressions. Read it, enjoy it, and take your own conclusions if Rafale is worth every Rupee paid for it.

For full report - http://www.defesanet.com.br/en/air/noticia/23607/FLIGHT-TEST--RAFALE/

 

[PARIKRAMA]

 

[Grevion]

Which game is that??

 

[Taygibay]

Which game is that??

One that copies this flight :

vol-patrouille-neuron-rafale-7x-hevc-1600kbps-720p-eeqtynje_110_1078_850.mp4

http://www.dassault-aviation.tv/The_Patrol_nEUROn_Rafale_Falcon_7X-1078-en.html

GN, Tay.

 

[#hydra#]

One that copies this flight :

vol-patrouille-neuron-rafale-7x-hevc-1600kbps-720p-eeqtynje_110_1078_850.mp4

http://www.dassault-aviation.tv/The_Patrol_nEUROn_Rafale_Falcon_7X-1078-en.html

GN, Tay.

This is the first operational flying air wing design outside united states in post world time.

 

[BON PLAN]

Just one error : canards and main wings doesn't have leading edge aligned ! unfortunately I think...

 

[BON PLAN]

DefesaNet flight tested India’s new fighter. Our test pilot pushed Dassault’s fighter jet to her limits, and here ‘le Commandant Vianney’ shares his impressions. Read it, enjoy it, and take your own conclusions if Rafale is worth every Rupee paid for it.

For full report - http://www.defesanet.com.br/en/air/noticia/23607/FLIGHT-TEST--RAFALE/

sorry !!!! another error : range of AASM is more than 60km in high altitude (see link)
http://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/fr/aeronautique-et-espace/armements-et-missiles/aasm