Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[randomradio]

I don't know how many of you noticed but we haven't had any pro-Gripen articles since July.

We signed the MoU with Saab in Feb. And then signed the GTG deal with Sweden in June. Until Feb to June, there were pro-Gripen articles and quotes from Saab officials constantly, but after the signature in June end, all articles died. This is part of the GoI rules which prohibit companies from talking to the media when they are under contract with GoI. It was the same with Rafale, only contract related news was released.

The Gripen GTG deal itself was very low profile. It was signed in Singapore between defence secretaries.

 

[BON PLAN]

Last discussions on track.

NEW DELHI: A high level delegation comprised of all three French defence firms, involved in the 36 Rafale fighter jet deal with Indian Air Force, have been camping in Capital to straighten the last minutes differences, if any, according to a top source in the government.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...tes-differences/2016/09/11/article3618189.ece

 

[[Bregs]]

Arey bhai DM and PM, Pls this time sign this deal and now concentrate on Make in India deal for this Rafale fighter alone

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Pls use this thread for Rafale only.

All other news in this thread here
https://defence.pk/threads/make-in-...ents-updates-f16-f18-gripen-any-other.448850/

 

[randomradio]

• MOU between Sweden and India or between Saab and India has not happened. Nor any Signature between Defence secretaries has happened.
• Post the last concrete offer from Sweden, Saab is suppose to come back with the list of technologies which it can transfer comprehensively and needed time to talk with its partners to get a go ahead in written form to submit their proposal.
• Saab Marketing team ppl are known to me and in their own words they are reworking the strategy
• They have faced severe backlash bcz Gripen is seen as a fighter which will curtail LCA program so they are needing a re positioning and their media blitz actually backfired as they became too much visible.
• ACM Raha visit and now DM MP visit is to assure them of the confidence that they will be able to get the partners consent for the tech transfer aspect.
• There is an expectation that Saab has secured the requisite details and will hand over the confirmation to DM MP when he meets them and also some partners are invited in that meeting to have face to face interaction on the same.
• The final decision on single engine jet is pretty far ahead.

This is different from my info, but I really hope you are right because I would prefer the LSA over the Gripen.

 

[proud_indian]

https://twitter.com/x/status/774990547786330113

He is the one who broke cancellation of MMRCA and GTG deal of 36 fighters.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/774990547786330113

He is the one who broke cancellation of MMRCA and GTG deal of 36 fighters.

i said soon.

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-airforce-mmrca-lwf-alternate-discussion.448646/page-2#post-8674077

i am still with the same timeline

Approval will happen soon and signing within next 40 days or even less.

This week as its MOnday now is very important. If the agenda item gets approved, the rest can be taken care. As i said the release of money will happen in Q3 end to Q4 early timeline.

@CNL-PN-AA : MII part progress. I am told IGA has the mandate of the same. So whats you hearing

So first assembly line is Rafale and second assembly line most probably will be a LWF a direct fight between 3 contenders - LM F16, Saab Gripen E, and indigenous project LSA.

https://defence.pk/threads/make-in-...f16-f18-gripen-any-other.448850/#post-8677012

That also contain Nitin Gokhale tweets where he mentions second assembly line in reply to queries

 

[CNL-PN-AA]

Cabinet committee set to okay deal for 36 Rafale fighter aircraft

Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
Updated: Sep 12, 2016 00:38 IST

Since Modi ordered 36 ready-to-fly fighters from France in April 2015, both the defence ministry and Dassault Aviation officials have been involved in hectic negotiations. (AP File Photo )

Sixteen months after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the deal to buy 36 Rafale fighter aircraft, the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) is set to approve on Monday the closure of negotiations between the defence ministry and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation. The settled price for the twin-engined multi-role fighter is about 7.8 billion Euros with deliveries from 2019 and annual inflation capped at 3.5%.

Top sources told Hindustan Times that the defence ministry has sent the finalised deal to the CCS after making requisite changes to its offset section. The deal involves the manufacturer outsourcing 50% of the total amount of the deal from India.

“The cost of 36 fighters will be around Rs 7000-8,000 crore lower than that what was being offered to the previous UPA regime in the now cancelled contract for multi-role medium range combat aircraft (MMRCA). Rafale had been shortlisted as the lowest bidder in the MMRCA tender,” said a senior official.

Read | Ready to conclude Rafale deal, ball in India’s court: Dassault Aviation

Since Modi ordered 36 ready-to-fly fighters from France in April 2015, both the defence ministry and Dassault Aviation officials have been involved in hectic negotiations with defence minister Manohar Parrikar insistent that the cost should be 10-20% less than what was being offered to UPA regime but without compromising on the capabilities of the aircraft.

Equipped with a state-of-the-art AESA radar that allows for multiple targeting beyond visual range, the nuclear capable jet will the frontline jet for Indian Air Force (IAF) with Russian Su-30 MKI forming the backbone. Rafale fighters can be armed with the latest air-to-air, air-to-ground, as well as nuclear armament.

The 36 aircraft with a full armament complement were offered at a maximum price of 11.6 billion euros with annual inflation pegged at 5%. This has been brought down to 7.8 billion euros with maximum inflation pegged at 3.5.

 

[[Bregs]]

A new dawn for IAF and for closer relationship between France and India for more such deals in future but without taking so much time

 

[newindiandefence]

11.6 billion EUROS ? For 36 ..
Thank god APA is not There.

Egypt got 24 rafale with a navy ship at $5.9 including weapons.

7.8 billion EUROS reasonable.

UPA*

 

[PakEye]

Bargaining
where is TOT, Make in India, Assembling in India & Jobs.

 

[indo]

Bargaining
where is TOT, Make in India, Assembling in India & Jobs.

The deal involves the manufacturer outsourcing 50% of the total amount of the deal from India.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/dassault...ssions-thread-2.351407/page-315#ixzz4Jyqdf8y9

 

[randomradio]

Bargaining
where is TOT, Make in India, Assembling in India & Jobs.

That's the next step. They are creating the procedures first.

 

[CNL-PN-AA]

Of course, Dassault and France would have never accepted 50% offstes in order to sell only 36 Rafales. So MII for Rafales is absolutely sure. 90+ for IAF and 45+ for IN. Like I said in january. It will be inked in the contract for 36, either by a public or secret clause.

 

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Sixteen months after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the deal to buy 36 Rafale fighter aircraft, the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) is set to approve on Monday the closure of negotiations between the defence ministry and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...er-aircraft/story-yrdz5RCUfp2vtenITwUzSO.html