Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

Nice thread got featured.

 

[barora]

Everything these Indians buy or make are out of this world. Tactical data link, jam proof technology, Su-30 the raptor of east, LCA the fighter that can compete F-35 and beyond, Arjun the holy grail of mechanised division etc.

But when they try to execute they get whipped on the *** so hard that even adversaries smile. Such is the nature of Indian hooligans


These dum and fools are buying Russian tech and integrating Nato standard equipment in them. I can only smile and laugh. They love to ride on multiple countries at same time, typical desi mentality.

While you belittle us for your one day achievements we are silently working towards becoming designer and manufacturer of defense related stuff.

I find it funny when you belittle Tejas program, while you are yet to start building your own defence infrastructure.

You have to make lot of sacrifice and accept lot of setbacks while building capabilities in defence industry. Someday you will hope you had started something like Tejas on your own too. Probably in this decade. Have as many laughs as you want, while you are at Chinese/American mercy for your defense, we are very well diversified so no one nation can dictate our foreign policy.

While you sing Chinese tune, after the American song.

 

[TNT]

Who says they cannot be jammed?

 

[Han Patriot]

Its not panic. Indian defense buying policy is fukd up. Thanks to China now army has perfect opening to get things with speed, which otherwise would have taken years to acquire.
All the purchasing you are seeing have been stuck in some file of a politicians office.
Take eg of su29, atgm etc army asking for them past many years

Wow, Indians can really view every fck up as positively man. I like this. So when we capture more land, then India will start making rifles? Lol

 

[polanski]

India to arm Rafale with HAMMER precision strike missile: https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2...-rafale-with-hammer-precision-strike-missile/

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

Who says they cannot be jammed?

Commom sense and science.

 

[Type59]

While you belittle us for your one day achievements we are silently working towards becoming designer and manufacturer of defense related stuff.

I find it funny when you belittle Tejas program, while you are yet to start building your own defence infrastructure.

You have to make lot of sacrifice and accept lot of setbacks while building capabilities in defence industry. Someday you will hope you had started something like Tejas on your own too. Probably in this decade. Have as many laughs as you want, while you are at Chinese/American mercy for your defense, we are very well diversified so no one nation can dictate our foreign policy.

While you sing Chinese tune, after the American song.

Rich coming from you guys. You are dependent on America for equipment. Tejas has an American engine.

 

[khanmubashir]

Commom sense and science.

Actually that's called chutyabhakt bs sonny

 

[NAVDEEP DHALIWAL]

Wow, Indians can really view every fck up as positively man. I like this. So when we capture more land, then India will start making rifles? Lol

You misquoted me. For a war India has enough weapons, heck even Pakistan has enough weapon. But we could have been in better position if defence policy had less red tape.
All the weapons such 30 , rafaels , guns etc not going against China this year . We will fight with what we got and its enough to cause a lot of damage to china.
Army is using this situation to clear the stuck files. Thats all. Don't read click bait headlines of indian media. Lol they would call rafael a turkey next year if it sells their TRP

 

[HalfMoon]

These are extra enhancements India asked for which will be incorporated in time once these are tested and Cerrtified. That doesn't mean Rafale can't work.
Take example of engine enhancement, if engine can't work whats the point of delievery ? They can very well, keep the them stored in France. Lol
Don't go with media, iAzf would be stupid to do that, they would rather get default aircrafts and pay for enhanceme extra if that was the case.

As I said rafael will only be used in a pinch or last resort. Otherwise su30 and 29 etc r good enough for now.

LoL

That's exactly the point.

The rafales that you would be receiving cannot take off from high altitude airbases in Ladakh, cannot fire Israeli Spice munitions or Meteor BVR missiles.

Do you know why India is ordering HAMMER munitions from France under emergency purchase ? Because the Rafales that you receive later this week will not be able to fire the Israeli Spice munitions which are currently in Indian inventory until the India Specific Enhancements will be implemented by end of 2023.

All these Rafales are just show pieces until 2025.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...hammer-missiles-under-emergency-order.677384/

 

[jk007]

Actually they accepted their involvement in Pak within a few months. 8 PoWs of theirs were hospitalized in Delhi and they flew them back.

But sides exaggerate their heroics and downplay their shortcomings. First time I met a Pakistani in the US, he was as shocked as I was when it the narratives of the entire war of 1965 were completely different. He was convinced Pak won that war. I was convinced India did. Truth was it was pretty much a military stalemate. If an entire war can have such divergent narratives, I am not shocked that one minor skirmish does too.

Pak lost 1965 war, as they did not achieve their objective of taking away kashmir.
India won 1965 war, as it did achieve it's objective of keeping all it's territory intact, that too just 3 years after 1962.

Isn't it simple??

So you are saying Indian Rafales will be able to dodge the Indian S-300 system? Okay. I think that would be an improvement over the IAF performance on 27th February, 2019.
Even if Rafales escape being shot by the Indian S-300s they will be shot by the Chinese S-400s.
Rafales are being deployed without any operational training. So you know what the result would be.

@HalfMoon - There are 2 flags in your profile pic. One of them is Pak flag. Which is the other one?

 

[HalfMoon]

@HalfMoon - There are 2 flags in your profile pic. One of them is Pak flag. Which is the other one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Azad_Kashmir

 

[barora]

Rich coming from you guys. You are dependent on America for equipment. Tejas has an American engine.

The OP made fun of the fact that our defence procurement is very diverse, and is from USA, Russia, France. I merely stated it helps us in keeping ourselves independent in terms of our policy, as we aren't completely dependent on a country.

Yes, we are very far away from developing our own engine, but its something which is supposed to take multiple decades and multi billion dollars of investment.

Chinese still use Al 31 while WD 15 is under development at an advanced stage. You guys have invested way more that what we can do as of now.

My point being while they can mock Tejas, for its delay and its shortcomings, they will probably follow a similar path once they start developing their own tech.

 

[I S I]

jAm pRoOf rAdIo

 

[TNT]

Commom sense and science.

Hahaha then my friend u have none of both.