Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[dbc]

HAMMER is a PGM and not a Missile

Not quite, it can be configured with a rocket motor so boosting is an option.

 

[Sunny4pak]

Zarvan Bhai, Hamary Hamsaey tu aisay Rafale ki arrival & deployment ko ley kr uchal rahay hain, jaisay rafale ky anay si IAF LAC kia pooray China ko apnay Qabzay mein kar ley gi, aur china Rafale k Darr sy LAC kia porra Khitta hi choor dy ga.

 

[HalfMoon]

How long does it take for pilots to be fully trained on a new fighter jet?

IAF Rafales will not be operational ready at least until 2025.

 

[Ashraf. M]

Great weapon systems from France, but alas For a Few Dollars More the French lose all their humanitarian principles. Making money and selling weapons to nations when they are on the brink of War is immoral, i guess Western principles are redundant in these situations and Stoking the flames is the need of the hour.

West helping countries to fight CN to see its bloody nose.

 

[PDF]

If they went after Hammer after rejecting it in the past, it means IAF Spice doesn't give a required or specific capability which forced it to reconsider buying under emergency. Israel should work further on Spice even if its price has to be increased so that it can satisfy its clients.

 

[Trango Towers]

Well... pakistan has both. Starving people and people dying of COVID and no money for buying any weapons either. That's why you are angry.

But pakistan can still whoop your ***. Remember feb 27....
If we only had rafales

Never forget muslims ruled you for a 1000 years and then took Pakistan from you.

 

[Suriya]

But pakistan can still whoop your ***. Remember feb 27....
If we only had rafales

If u forget before 27th feb, there was 26th feb.

And on 26th Feb when IAF struck Balakot in KP province of pakistan, it faced ZERO counter attack. Both PAF and ground air defence were sleeping.


On 27th when PAF retaliated, it had to break ROE and fire long range missiles to disperse Indian CAPs before PAF could launch SoW from within it borders. And when our Mig21 took off from the vale of Srinagar, it crossed LoC unimpeded before being shot dowm. Slow claps.

Yes, If we only had rafales and had congress party not dillydallied buying 126 rafales for 10 years, ur jets would have been shot out of the sky from 150Km with meteors missile. It was political statement made by Modi on the eve of elections.

Never forget muslims ruled you for a 1000 years and then took Pakistan from you.

See your condition and state of Islamic republic of Pakistan and you have gall to say you have ruled over anything.

You saying we muslims ruled India for 1000 years during Mughal rule is very similar to if a pakistani Masih says we ruled India for 200 year during British Raj. Utterly Hilarious.

PS: Also let me remind u Pakistan did nothing after Aug 5th Kabza of Kashmir by India for which kashmiris and i are very disappointed. @El Sidd

 

[alphapak]

IAF Rafales will not be operational ready at least until 2025.

If you look at post 3 the guy is saying 6 months is enough for experienced pilot.
Don't know how true is that, only air force guys can answer this.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

See your condition and state of Islamic republic of Pakistan and you have gall to say you have ruled over anything.

Pakistan still harbours descendants of those conquerors that whooped your sorry a..ses for a 1000 years. The Turks ,Persians and the Arabs have deep roots in our society. Our historical saints,Sayyeds,architects, warriors and businessmen hail from the Central and Mid Eastern heritage. Just do some research on the remnants of the conquers of India. Yes some are still in India, wheather we are locals or foreigners we share the same Historical,Cultural and Religious ties. Our language URDU is the amalgamation of all these cultures.

 

[HalfMoon]

If you look at post 3 the guy is saying 6 months is enough for experienced pilot.
Don't know how true is that, only air force guys can answer this.

@NAVDEEP DHALIWAL does not know.

The Rafales that IAF will receive this month will be missing the following key features. These features will be only available 6 months after all 36 fighters have been delivered.

So Technical Indian Rafales will be combat ready only after 2023. This is even as we discount pilot's skill, experience and tactics in using Rafales.

The enhanced capabilities in the Rafale fighters sought by India will see 14 India Specific Enhancements Exclusive to be incorporated to India bound 36 Rafale fighter jets which will be added by the company once the delivery of all the jets is completed by 2022. 14 India Specific Enhancements for India bound Rafale fighter jets have been listed out

1) Upgraded Sigma 95N INS: A Hybrid inertial navigation/GPS system used on the Dassault Rafale fighter jets will now support Indian developed Indian Regional Navigation Satellite System (IRNSS ) also called as NAVIC which provides accurate real-time positioning and timing services for India and a region extending 1,500 km around it.

2) Upgraded RBE-2 AESA-MMR: RBE2 AESA radar developed by Thales will now feature Airborne weather radar which will come in handy to predict more timely and accurate weather conditions.

3) Enhanced OBOGS: Rafale fighter jet comes fitted with an onboard oxygen generation system (OBOGS) which suppresses the need for liquid oxygen re-filling or ground support for oxygen production, but India has asked for Enhanced OBOGS system which will have enhanced capacity supporting additional filters.

4) Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS): Thales developed Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) contains Air Traffic Surveillance Awareness capabilities like a Terrain Avoidance Warning System (TAWS) which will improve the level of awareness and comfort of the flight crew.

5) Tweaked M88 Engines: Rafale fighter jet which uses M88-4E engines will receive tweaks to its fuel starter so that engine can operate at optimum even at sub-zero high altitude air base of Indian air force.

6) IESI (Integrated Electronic Standby Instruments): Thales developed IESI will be installed to operate in a particular set of environmental conditions and features accurate low airspeed measurement to cope with the flight envelope while avoiding additional weight due to external air data computer.

7) Quad-Pack Ejectors: Rafale fighter jet will be getting French developed Quad-Pack Ejectors which can be used for low weight Stand-Off Weapon both of Indian and foreign origins.

8) X-Guard fiber-optic towed decoy system: India bound Rafale fighter jets will be getting X-Guard fibre-optic towed decoy system which is designed to counter air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles. Each aircraft carries two X-Guard towed decoy and can be released when the aircraft approaches a saturated area or when a threat is detected. The most suitable countermeasure is transmitted to the X-Guard by the aircraft’s electronic countermeasures system. The fiber-optic connection to the aircraft allows accurate jamming, says Rafael.

9) Tweaks to SPECTRA Electronic Warfare System: India specific threat libraries will be added and SPECTRA EW System will also feature Low- Medium and High band apertures to deal with low observable aircraft.

10) TARGO-II Helmet Mounted Display Systems Developed by ELBIT

11) Integration of LITENING G4 Target Acquisition Pod which are already used by Indian Air Force for its frontline fighter aircraft, including the Su-30 MKI, MiG-29

12) Integration of Rafael’s SPICE 1000 EO/GPS-guided munitions

13 ) MBDA developed Meteor BVRAAM and ALARM Anti-radiation missile

14) Assistance to be provided to local Indian Public sector companies for Integration of Weapons ranging from India’s Astra BVRAAM to High-speed low drag (HSLD) bombs with the aircraft’s weapons control system. India bound Rafale fighter jets are also rumored to later get specific Indian enhancements which can come handy in the delivery of Nuclear weapons, which obviously will not be confirmed by Indian or French governments.

https://idrw.org/14-india-specific-enhancements-exclusive-to-india-bound-rafale-fighter-jets/ .

 

[The Maverick]

Pakistan still harbours descendants of those conquerors that whooped your sorry a..ses for a 1000 years. The Turks ,Persians and the Arabs have deep roots in our society. Our historical saints,Sayyeds,architects, warriors and businessmen hail from the Central and Mid Eastern heritage. Just do some research on the remnants of the conquers of India. Yes some are still in India, wheather we are locals or foreigners we share the same Historical,Cultural and Religious ties. Our language URDU is the amalgamation of all these cultures.

I have seen how the Arabs treat pakistanis in DUBAI ............and it is not nice or respectful believe me

The persians Arabs and Turks see themselves as different and TOTALLY SUPERIOR to you pakistanis

Other than religion Which is half the world THE arabs persians & Turks treat you as a alien race to them

ANYWAY

Rafale is bringing an array of weapons to INDIA

Meteore
Scalp
Hammer

magnficient looking fighter

 

[Trango Towers]

If u forget before 27th feb, there was 26th feb.

And on 26th Feb when IAF struck Balakot in KP province of pakistan, it faced ZERO counter attack. Both PAF and ground air defence were sleeping.


On 27th when PAF retaliated, it had to break ROE and fire long range missiles to disperse Indian CAPs before PAF could launch SoW from within it borders. And when our Mig21 took off from the vale of Srinagar, it crossed LoC unimpeded before being shot dowm. Slow claps.

Yes, If we only had rafales and had congress party not dillydallied buying 126 rafales for 10 years, ur jets would have been shot out of the sky from 150Km with meteors missile. It was political statement made by Modi on the eve of elections.




See your condition and state of Islamic republic of Pakistan and you have gall to say you have ruled over anything.

You saying we muslims ruled India for 1000 years during Mughal rule is very similar to if a pakistani Masih says we ruled India for 200 year during British Raj. Utterly Hilarious.

PS: Also let me remind u Pakistan did nothing after Aug 5th Kabza of Kashmir by India for which kashmiris and i are very disappointed. @El Sidd

26 feb....loool.....loool

Yes you struck the target and killed 300 people and achieved all your objectives...gosh now I know you are as dumb as modi

If u forget before 27th feb, there was 26th feb.

And on 26th Feb when IAF struck Balakot in KP province of pakistan, it faced ZERO counter attack. Both PAF and ground air defence were sleeping.


On 27th when PAF retaliated, it had to break ROE and fire long range missiles to disperse Indian CAPs before PAF could launch SoW from within it borders. And when our Mig21 took off from the vale of Srinagar, it crossed LoC unimpeded before being shot dowm. Slow claps.

Yes, If we only had rafales and had congress party not dillydallied buying 126 rafales for 10 years, ur jets would have been shot out of the sky from 150Km with meteors missile. It was political statement made by Modi on the eve of elections.




See your condition and state of Islamic republic of Pakistan and you have gall to say you have ruled over anything.

You saying we muslims ruled India for 1000 years during Mughal rule is very similar to if a pakistani Masih says we ruled India for 200 year during British Raj. Utterly Hilarious.

PS: Also let me remind u Pakistan did nothing after Aug 5th Kabza of Kashmir by India for which kashmiris and i are very disappointed. @El Sidd

Qabza.???? We have all the northern areas that we took by force from you including azad Kashmir. You have 700000 troops in kashmir alone and you are hated there. Your suicide rate is higher than your favourite past time...rape.
You are more delusional than modi

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

The persians Arabs and Turks see themselves as different and TOTALLY SUPERIOR to you pakistanis

My dear most learned INDIAN friend nearly one fourth of our population trace their ancestry from Far East, Mid East and Central Asia. Most Surnames with Sayyad, Shah,Bukhari,Baig,Gilani,Qureshi,Hashmi and hundreds more have ancestral connections beyond this Regions. Regarding mistreatment of the South Asians by the Newly Wealthy Arabs, let them merry for the moment. They will soon be overwhelmed by their so called captives.

 

[alhindi]

Taking Arunachal is a piece of cake for China but People of Arunachal are hostile towards China. It will take time to change the opinion in favor of China. When that happens Arunachal will be annexed.

Currently the Opinion in Kashmir and Ladakh is favorable towards Pakistan & China hence the plan starts here.

Kashmir & Kargil will go to Pakistan and Ladakh will go to China.

This will be the new map of India by the end of 2020.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285503764951183361

Low IQ Indians do not even realize when they have lost the argument. Delusional at best.

Let the master china take some action and give kashmir to cheerleaders .

 

[HalfMoon]

Let the master china take some action and give kashmir to cheerleaders .

Patience!

Chinese salami slicing is in progress.

India is