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Well as an American all I wanna say is Pakistanis run some of the most successfully terrorist organizations in the world while the low IQ Indians:
Sundar Pichai
CEO, Google
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Satya Nadella
CEO, Microsoft
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Number of employees: Nearly 135,000


Vivek Sankaran
President and CEO, Albertsons
Company revenue: $60.53 billion (2018)
Number of employees: 267,000 (2018)


Sanjay Mehrotra
President and CEO, Micron Technology
Company revenue: $30.4 billion (2018)
Number of employees: 36,000 (2018



Ajaypal Singh Banga
President and CEO, MasterCard
Company revenue: $15 billion
Number of employees: 13,400


Shantanu Narayan
Chairman and CEO, Adobe Inc.
Company revenue: $9 billion (2018)
Number of employees: More than 21,000


Dinesh Paliwal
President and CEO, Harman International Industries
Company revenue: $7.44 billion (2018)
Number of employees: 26,000 (2016


Success of Indians in the U.S. showcases importance of education


https://news.ucsc.edu/2017/06/singh-book.html
Why you accusing Pakistani of running terrorist organizations in the world? Did Pakistan create ISIS and its offshoots? Do you live in a cave or something? You need to get your facts straight.

Some examples FYI:

Pakistani American billionnaire Shahid Khan: https://www.opf.org.pk/prides/shahid-khan/

Pakistani American startup legend Zia Chishti: https://www.brunswickgroup.com/zia-chishti-pakistan-i9334/

Pakistani American Business Council by and large: https://abcpk.org.pk/executive-committee/

Pakistani American Mayor Sadaf Jaffer: https://www.browngirlmagazine.com/2019/03/in-conversation-with-sadaf-jaffer/
 
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What is stance of French on bharat Vs China and Bharat losing the territory. They are just milking bharatis or giving some moral support too?

China should up the game as well. Maybe time to take Arunachal.

Taking Arunachal is a piece of cake for China but People of Arunachal are hostile towards China. It will take time to change the opinion in favor of China. When that happens Arunachal will be annexed.

Currently the Opinion in Kashmir and Ladakh is favorable towards Pakistan & China hence the plan starts here.

Kashmir & Kargil will go to Pakistan and Ladakh will go to China.

This will be the new map of India by the end of 2020.


You accept that you lost the discussion of foreign exchange? If yes, we can move to other topic.

Low IQ Indians do not even realize when they have lost the argument. Delusional at best.

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With just days to go before India’s first Rafale jets arrive in country, the Indian Air Force has exercised emergency procurement powers to contract the French Hammer AASM precision strike weapon system for the aircraft.

In a decision fully in keeping with an emerging conflict scenario with China in eastern Ladakh — and with disengagement efforts hitting multiple roadblocks — choosing the Hammer isn’t surprising. But you’re a Livefist reader, and obviously you expect context. So let’s begin.

To begin with, the Hammer, developed by French conglomerate Safran (which also builds the Rafale’s M88 turbofan engines) has always officially been an option to the IAF in the Rafale package. In 2017, months after India had contracted 36 Rafale jets, Livefist reported details of what India had chosen, noting that the IAF had optioned the Hammer system for a possible decision once Rafale deliveries begin, but that it would hit the ground running with Israeli Spice guidance kits to begin with. Read that full report here.

In October last year, on the day the first Rafales were handed over to the Indian Air Force, Livefist reported the list of add-on weapons and systems that the IAF could opt for now that the jets were flying in Indian colours.

The IAF’s 2016 decision to choose the Israeli Spice precision bomb kits over the Hammer was based on cost — the French system is significantly more costly, but brings to bear additional capabilities, including effective deployability in low-level flight. It wasn’t the first time the Hammer had lost out to the Israeli Spice weapons family.

In 2012, the Hammer and Spice went head to head in an Indian Air Force quest for new 1,000 kg precision strike weaponry for its Mirage 2000 jets that were being separately upgraded. There too, the Israeli won out on cost (the Hammer didn’t have a 1,000 kg version for test, and therefore had to be tested on a 250 kg unit). Spice 2000 bombs would go on to see action in India’s air strikes on a Pakistani terror camp in Balakot in February 2019. The Indian Air Force, incidentally, has also used Ladakh-triggered emergency procurement powers to order more Spice 2000 weapons for its Mirage 2000s.

But if the IAF had chosen the Spice on its Rafales in 2016, why the need to order the Hammer system now? To understand the decision, it must be known that acquiring weapons have three broad cost components — the cost of the weapon itself, the cost of integration (software and hardware), and finally the cost of testing & certifying the system. A senior IAF officer tells Livefist that while work on integrating Spice weapons on the IAF Rafales has been underway in France in terms of software code, the bulk of the integration and crucial testing will necessarily take place in India. But how long would that take from the time the aircraft arrive? To provide perspective, it took 18 months to fully integrate, test and clear the Spice on IAF Mirages. The IAF’s rationale, therefore, in acquiring the Hammer system now, is that savings made on integration and testing the weapon — the Hammer is already fully certified on the Rafale — will justify the higher cost of the system itself. Once contracted, Hammer systems will likely begin deliveries quickly, possibly from production inventory intended for the French forces.

In France, Indian Air Force pilots have had extensive exposure to the the Hammer system already. In 2017, Livefist conducted a series of interviews with French Navy Rafale pilots who had deployed Hammer bombs on targets in Iraq. Read that full story here.

While the Hammer procurement has clearly been green-lit keeping in view the current India-China tensions in Ladakh, and the fact that inbound Rafales would be bereft of a tactical stand-off strike weapon for some time, there are likely to be more weapons contracts for the Rafale fleet going forward. The IAF Rafale’s more capable weapons — the Meteor BVRAAM and SCALP cruise missile — have been contracted in fairly modest numbers, part of an effort to keep overall costs down. It is expected, therefore, that the IAF will look to add numbers of both these systems in the near term as Rafale deliveries add up.

The IAF’s decision to push through an emergency purchase of the Hammer was scooped by India Today executive editor Sandeep Unnithan,who made a mention of it on Livefist Editor Shiv Aroor’s news show 5ive Live on Wednesday, a day before the story was reported on other media. Watch that full broadcast here:

https://www.livefistdefence.com/2020/07/heres-why-the-iaf-has-chosen-the-hammer-for-its-rafale.html
 
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Usable from greater and greater safety distances, with unrivaled ease of use, the air-to-ground modular weapon (AASM) "Hammer", developed by Safran Electronics & Defense, enables extremely accurate strikes. The AASM is an autonomous unjammable interoperable modular device which utilizes leverages a range of guidance kits (INS/GPS, INS/GPS/Infrared and INS/GPS/Laser). The AASM has been tested in numerous recent theaters and delivers an excellent cost/effectiveness ratio.

AASM INS/GPS

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The hybrid inertial/GPS layout is the standard guidance mode for coordinates. Once the coordinates have been entered in the weapon, the inertial guidance system enable it to hit the target without requiring a GPS signal, if it is unavailable. This version is designated the SBU-38 Hammer (Smart Bomb Unit).
The AASM's modularity allows it to be used on 125, 250, 500 and 1000kg bomb bodies. Its engine provides it with range greater than 50km, meaning it can be fired at a standoff distance. Autonomous after it has been dropped, it can be used at low altitudes, cross hilly terrain or veer sharply from the firing aircraft.

AASM INS/GPS IR

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The inertial/GPS/IR kit adds an infrared imager for terminal guidance. With a simplified model of the scene around the target first being uploaded to the weapon, this imager allows the AASM to recalculate its trajectory during the last few seconds prior to impact, using image recognition algorithms. This allows the AASM to hit its target with the highest possible accuracy, even if GPS coordinates are incorrect, or the GPS signal is unavailable. This version is called the SBU-64 Hammer.
The AASM's modularity allows it to be used on 125, 250, 500 and 1000kg bomb bodies. Its engine provides it with range greater than 50km, meaning it can be fired at a standoff distance. Autonomous after it has been dropped, it can be used at low altitudes, cross hilly terrain or veer sharply from the firing aircraft.

AASM INS/GPS Laser

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The inertial/GPS/laser kit adds terminal laser guidance to engage agile, moving land or naval targets, illuminated by a ground or airborne laser designator. It will be deployed by French armed forces starting in 2012. This version is designated the SBU-54 Hammer (Smart Bomb Unit).
The AASM's modularity allows it to be used on 125, 250, 500 and 1000kg bomb bodies. Its engine provides it with range greater than 50km, meaning it can be fired at a standoff distance. Autonomous after it has been dropped, it can be used at low altitudes, cross hilly terrain or veer sharply from the firing aircraft.

https://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/aerospace/weapons-and-missiles/aasm

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Undoubtedly a fantastic weapon....but the weapon itself is not the real question here.

The real mountain to climb is, can IAF press the button on Rafale to release this weapon against a Chinese target?

....and if so, are they, and the whole of India, will then they be ready to receive what comes their way from CHinese side?

This is the conundrum that India has to solve.....and so far they don't have an answer.
 
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Great weapon systems from France, but alas For a Few Dollars More the French forget all their humanitarian principles. Making money and selling weapons to nations when they are on the brink of War is immoral, i guess Western principles are redundant in these situations and Stoking the flames is the need of the hour.
 
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Great weapon systems from France, but alas For a Few Dollars More the French lose all their humanitarian principles. Making money and selling weapons to nations when they are on the brink is immoral, i guess Western principles are redundant in these situations.
This bought with hard earned money by India and not received as part military aid for doing any super powers bidding.
 
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