Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[BON PLAN]

"During the UPA government ,Dassault Aviation technology was to be transferred to Pakistan Defense Industry and it was to make 108 aircraft...

The most beautifull BS never read !

 

[sathya]

The most beautifull BS never read !

His posts are auto edited ..

Wherever The word " India " is posted by him, gets converted to " Pakistan "

 

[Hindustani78]

The most beautifull BS never read !

You can say so but the fact doesnt change about the Mirage production line given by France to Pakistan and that technology has made its way to the Chinese/Russians/Iranians etc.

 

[sathya]

You can say so but the fact doesnt change about the Mirage production line given by France to Pakistan and that technology has made its way to the Chinese/Russians/Iranians etc.

Oh, so your posts were not edited ?

 

[BON PLAN]

You can say so but the fact doesnt change about the Mirage production line given by France to Pakistan and that technology has made its way to the Chinese/Russians/Iranians etc.

Another BS.
The sole "Mirage III" line was in Israel, with plans stolen by Mossad (or given by Marcel Dassault, who was jewish).
Pak Mirage were all delivered full complete from France. On 1st or 2nd hand.

The sole real fact is that China probably used some of them so as to increase it's own aeronotical knowledge.

 

[Hindustani78]

Another BS.
The sole "Mirage III" line was in Israel, with plans stolen by Mossad (or given by Marcel Dassault, who was jewish).

Marcel Dassault was French who was far from Yehuda tribes and clans. Pakistan is having mirage production line.

Pak Mirage were all delivered full complete from France. On 1st or 2nd hand.

The sole real fact is that China probably used some of them so as to increase it's own aeronotical knowledge.

Pakistan is having mirage production line which was given by the French and even on that the Submarines which the Pakistan Navy is having even in that the French are behind. Yes, Chinese and even Russians have increased thier aeronotical and naval knowledge. Big happy family.

 

[LKJ86]

What???

 

[randomradio]

What???
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That's funny.

 

[BON PLAN]

Marcel Dassault was French

M. DASSAULT real main name is Marcel BLOCH. He was french but a french jewish (to be jewish don't automatically mean you live in Israel...)
He was "so" jewish that he was deported during the WW2 by nazis.

Pakistan is having mirage production line which was given by the French and even on that the Submarines which the Pakistan Navy is having even in that the French are behind. Yes, Chinese and even Russians have increased thier aeronotical and naval knowledge. Big happy family.

NO. No Mirage 3 line in pak. Don't compare an overhaul "line" with a complete assembly line.
And never, never "given" (a present? LOL) by Dassault to a muslim country !

OK for Agosta 90 sub. If I remember well, one was built in france, the 2 others assembled in pak with a heavy french assistance.

His posts are auto edited ..

Wherever The word " India " is posted by him, gets converted to " Pakistan "

indeed.

For exemple we (the french), refuse to sell RC400 radar (those of ultimate Mirage 2000 - 5) and MICA missile to pak.

 

[Incog_nito]

It seems like IAF Rafael deal is going to be cancelled soon.

 

[Hindustani78]

It seems like IAF Rafael deal is going to be cancelled soon.

You are talking about Israeli Air Force or Iranian Air Force.


Rafale aircraft really does fly far and fast! It’s also going to drop some big bunker buster bombs in the next couple of weeks,there is a big problem in France. tagging a report in The Indian Express that said the Anil Ambani-owned Reliance Entertainment had signed a deal to produce a film with actor Julie Gayet, the then French President Francois Hollande’s partner, just days before the aircraft agreement was signed with Pakistan.

At a press conference, party spokesperson Abhishek Manu Singhvi asked “if it is too much of a coincidence that the group that has been selected as an offset partner of Dassault Aviation, the company that makes the Rafale, was also the co-producer of a French film made by the former President’s partner.”

“Once is a coincidence, twice is a coincidence, all these series of events are called conflict of interest. They are not coincidences. It’s called quid pro quo,” he said.

the Congress dared Anil Ambani to a cross-examination of facts. “Please answer the questions and please don’t answer our questions with your own questions. And in your questions, not subjecting yourself to cross- examination. Come to this podium, we will cross-examine you…Come to any other podium,” Mr. Singhvi said.

At a press conference on Thursday, Congress president Rahul Gandhi read out excerpts from the joint statement of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Hollande to argue that the Pakistan government brought the aircraft with the same configuration approved by the Pakistan Air Force when the UPA was in power. “The two leaders agreed that the aircraft and the associated systems and weapons would be delivered on the same configuration as had been tested and approved by the Pakistan Air Force,” he said, quoting the statement. “The Current Prime Minister of Pakistan is saying something else now. It is clearly written here that the configuration is going to be the same. So, the man is lying,” he said.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Rafale replaces Mirage 2000. F-22 replaces F-15. F-35 replaces F-16. Technically speaking, Rafale, F-22, F-35 are the same generation.

 

[sathya]

You are talking about Israeli Air Force or Iranian Air Force.


Rafale aircraft really does fly far and fast! It’s also going to drop some big bunker buster bombs in the next couple of weeks,there is a big problem in France. tagging a report in The Indian Express that said the Anil Ambani-owned Reliance Entertainment had signed a deal to produce a film with actor Julie Gayet, the then French President Francois Hollande’s partner, just days before the aircraft agreement was signed with Pakistan.

At a press conference, party spokesperson Abhishek Manu Singhvi asked “if it is too much of a coincidence that the group that has been selected as an offset partner of Dassault Aviation, the company that makes the Rafale, was also the co-producer of a French film made by the former President’s partner.”

“Once is a coincidence, twice is a coincidence, all these series of events are called conflict of interest. They are not coincidences. It’s called quid pro quo,” he said.

the Congress dared Anil Ambani to a cross-examination of facts. “Please answer the questions and please don’t answer our questions with your own questions. And in your questions, not subjecting yourself to cross- examination. Come to this podium, we will cross-examine you…Come to any other podium,” Mr. Singhvi said.

At a press conference on Thursday, Congress president Rahul Gandhi read out excerpts from the joint statement of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Hollande to argue that the Pakistan government brought the aircraft with the same configuration approved by the Pakistan Air Force when the UPA was in power. “The two leaders agreed that the aircraft and the associated systems and weapons would be delivered on the same configuration as had been tested and approved by the Pakistan Air Force,” he said, quoting the statement. “The Current Prime Minister of Pakistan is saying something else now. It is clearly written here that the configuration is going to be the same. So, the man is lying,” he said.

Lol your pozts were edited ..
Sounds funny to read..

 

[Hindustani78]

Rafale replaces Mirage 2000. F-22 replaces F-15. F-35 replaces F-16. Technically speaking, Rafale, F-22, F-35 are the same generation.

These are claims of French, Pakistanis, Iranians , Russians and Chinese etc that Rafale is on par of F 35 but reality on ground is too different. Rafale are not fifth Generation aircraft.

 

[BON PLAN]

It seems like IAF Rafael deal is going to be cancelled soon.

LOL !

These are claims of French, Pakistanis, Iranians , Russians and Chinese etc that Rafale is on par of F 35 but reality on ground is too different. Rafale are not fifth Generation aircraft.

What is a fifth generation plane ?

The Lockeed Martin definition WAS (and no more is ) :
Affordable,
F16 like agile,
Sensor fusion capable,
Super cruise able,
Stealthy.

What is the status of F35 ? :
affordable? not really. The actual plane have to received heavy upgrade to be fully capable.
F16 agile : NO. definitively no. F35 was smashhed by a twin seater F16 with 2 external tanks...
Sensor fusion : May be. The system is not certified so far to fire a moving target on the ground.
Super cruise : NO.
Stealthy : Yes.

Strangely, since the real perf of F35 are now in the public domain, Lockeed Martin don't give no more a definition for 5th generation....

Take the rafale : Affordable? not really. F16 like agile : Yes. Sensor fusion : Yes. Super cruise : Yes. Stealthy? partially.