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The Vice President, Shri M. Venkaiah Naidu emplanes for France from New Delhi on November 09, 2018.

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The Vice President, Shri M. Venkaiah Naidu being received by the Ambassador of India to France, Shri Vinay Mohan Kwatra and others, on his arrival, in Paris, France on November 09, 2018.

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The Vice President, Shri M. Venkaiah Naidu being received by the Ambassador of India to France, Shri Vinay Mohan Kwatra and others, on his arrival, in Paris, France on November 09, 2018.
 
NEW DELHI, November 13, 2018 22:25 IST
Updated: November 13, 2018 22:25 IST
Indian National Congress chief claims PM has admitted to ‘theft’ in Rafale deal; it’s all falsehood, Minister hits back
A day after the Centre filed an affidavit in the Supreme Court, explaining the decision-making process in buying 36 Rafale fighter jets, Congress president Rahul Gandhi and Finance Minister Arun Jaitley sparred on Twitter.

Launching a fresh offensive against Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the Congress chief tweeted to allege that the Prime Minister had admitted to “theft” in the Rafale deal.

The Finance Minister hit back with his tweet that “falsehood is no substitute for Rahul Gandhi’s failed politics”.

Cost factor
On a day when Dassault CEO Eric Trappier, in an interview to the news agency ANI, said the NDA’s deal was 9% cheaper than what the UPA had negotiated, the Congress said the Centre’s affidavit “concealed more than it revealed”, and posed a series of questions to the Modi government. These developments came a day before the top court hears the Rafale case again on Wednesday after going through the Centre’s affidavit, where it claimed to have followed the requisite Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP).

“Modiji has admitted to theft in the Supreme Court. In the affidavit, he admitted to changes in the contract without asking the Air Force and put ₹30,000 crore in [Anil] Ambani’s pocket. There is more to add to this picture, my friend,” Mr. Gandhi tweeted in Hindi.

“UPA delayed the Rafale purchase, much required for improving the combat ability of Indian Air Force. Is Rahul Gandhi’s failed politics compelling him to render India’s sensitive defence requirements controversial?” tweeted Mr. Jaitley.

Based on the Centre’s affidavit, former Union Minister Manish Tewari posed a series of questions.

He said if the 36 Rafale jets were a case of fresh acquisition and not a continuation of UPA’s Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) deal, then the government should have spelt out fresh standard qualitative requirements (SQRs) but that was not the case.

Price difference
Mr. Tewari also claimed that the affidavit also punctured its own claim that there may have been a price difference between the NDA and UPA’s deal because of India-specific enhancements to the Rafale aircraft.

“Please read Para 23 of the Centre’s affidavit… What does it say? It says that the 36 aircraft which have been purchased by the NDA-BJP Government had the exact specifications as the SQRs finalised by the Indian Air Force for the procurement of the MMRCA,” said Mr. Tewari.

In a separate interview to ANI, Mr. Trappier described it as “a clean deal” that was 9% cheaper than the UPA government’s.

Cutting the price
“Price of 36 was exactly the same when you compare with 18 flyaway. The 36 is the double of 18… so as far as I was concerned, it should have been double the price. But because it was government-to-government, there was some negotiation. I had to decrease price by 9%,” he said.

In response to the Congress chief’s charge that he had lied about Dassault choosing the Anil Ambani-led Reliance on its own, Mr. Trappier claimed that he didn’t have to lie in his position as a CEO.

“I am totally clean in front of the laws of my country. We are totally clean in France. We are also totally clean in India,” Mr. Trappier said.

However, in 1998, a former director of Dassault was awarded a suspended sentence for bribing Belgian politicians to win a tender.
 
Supreme Court reserves judgment in Rafale deal case

New Delhi , November 14, 2018 12:02 IST
Updated: November 14, 2018 15:45 IST

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Indian Air Force officers arrive at the Supreme Court on November 14, 2018 for a hearing on the Rafale deal. | Photo Credit: PTI


The apex court heard petitions challenging the decision-making process involved in the proposed acquisition of Rafale jets from French manufacturer, Dassault.

The Supreme Court on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, reserved its judgment on pleas seeking a court-monitored probe into the procurement of Rafale fighter jets from France.

A Bench comprising Chief Justice of India and Justices perused the pricing details submitted by the government in a sealed cover.

The initial arguments were commenced by advocate who told the court that the Inter-Government Agreement was “illegal” and sought an investigation in the matter. Besides advocate another lawyer has also filed a plea in the matter.

Former Union Ministers and activist lawyer filed a joint petition. Later, Rajya Sabha MP had also filed a petition. Rajya Sabha MP said while as per the March 25, 2015 deal for were to be produced, the joint statement by the two sides specified a new deal for 36 Rafale jets with the same equipment as in 2007.

The petitioners wanted the Attorney-General, representing the Centre, to reply why a joint press statement was issued by Prime Minister along with French President Francois Hollande in April 2015, well over a year before the Cabinet Committee on Security finally approved the 36 jets' deal signed in Sep 2016.

Indian Air Force officers assist SC
Deputy Chief of Air staff, Air Marshal and two other officers from Indian Air Force appeared in the Supreme Court to assist it on the issue of the procurement of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France.

The officers appeared before a bench headed by Chief Justice had sought their assistance in the case.

“We are dealing with the requirements of the Air Force and would like to ask an Air Force officer on Rafale jets. We want to hear from an Air force officer and not the official of the Defence Ministry on the issue,” the Bench said when the Attorney General began his arguments on behalf of the Centre in the pre-lunch session.

'Defence Procurement Procedure condictions not complied with'
Petitioners for activist lawyer and Former Union Ministers alleged that the Centre had short-circuited the fresh tender process for 36 Rafale jets to procure them through restricted Inter Government Agreement (IGA) mechanism. Activist lawyer argued that the Rafale deal qualified none of the three conditions laid down by the Defence Procurement Procedure .

Alleging gross violation of procedure in decision making process in the deal, activist lawyer asked: “Who took the decision for 36 jets? On what basis did the PM announce the deal for 36 jets? He had no authority. How was the 126 jets reduced to 36 jets?”.

Asserting that not a single aircraft was delivered till now even after three-and-a-half years, Activist lawyer told the Supreme Court bench that if the 126 aircraft deal was still on, “at least 18 jets would have been delivered by April 2019”.

Three and a half years have passed since deal signed on 36 Rafale jets. No aircraft till now. The 1st jet to be delivered in Sep 2019 and delivery to continue till 2022 If the 126 aircraft deal was still on, at least 18 jets would have been delivered by April 2019.

Meanwhile, Attorney General opposed activist lawyer plea to submit information on secrecy clause of Rafale agreement.

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New Delhi, November 14, 2018 21:44 IST
Updated: November 14, 2018 21:44 IST

French have no such procedure: Former Union Minister
The Indian National Congress on Wednesday asserted that there had been no “government-to-government” pact with France for the Rafale aircraft as the French government had never done a government-to-government contract on defence in the past.

“This is not a government-to-government contract,” senior Indian National Congress leader told reporters, adding that there was no such procedure in France unlike in the United States where a deal could be done under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route.

‘Not compliant’
Continuing the Indian National Congress campaign against the government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi over the Rafale deal, Indian National Congress leader said the Centre should not have signed a contract with Dassault after it turned “non-compliant” by not giving assurances both on aircraft quality, and on the number of man-hours required for manufacturing the jet.

“In this case, the people who negotiated the deal were Dassault representatives along with [CEO] himself and the Ministry of Defence and Air Force officials and the only thing that happened was that the Government of France gave a confirmation letter that negotiations were held with Dassault,” Indian National Congress leader contended.

The government note in the Supreme Court on the Rafale deal said the prolonged impasse over the 126-aircraft deal had caused an “urgent need” to acquire 36 Rafale jets or two squadrons in a fly-away condition.

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NEW DELHI, November 14, 2018 21:42 IST
Updated: November 14, 2018 21:42 IST

Questioners against Rafale deal seek government clarification on this question
The day-long hearing in the Supreme Court on Wednesday saw questions being raised continuously on the fact that the Indo-French Joint Statement was issued on April 10, 2015, well over a year before the Cabinet Committee on Security finally approved the Rafale deal in August 2016.

The questioners asked the three-judge Bench led by Chief Justice of India to direct the government to file a response in an affidavit on this question.

“Till March 25, 2015, the deal for 126 aircraft was on; 108 jets were to be produced. In just two weeks, on April 10, 2015, a joint statement is issued for a new deal for 36 Rafale jets with same equipment…The 2007 deal for 126 aircraft was approved by the Defence Acquisition Council. If our combat potential had declined sharply, what was the logic of striking a new deal for just 36 jets? The new deal should have been for more than 126 fighter aircraft,” the counsel for parliamentarian argued.

‘Norms violated’
Advocate who filed a joint petition in person with former Union Ministers claimed that the government “short-circuited” a fresh tender process for 36 Rafale jets by opting for the restricted Inter Government Agreement (IGA) mechanism.

“Who took the decision for 36 jets? On what basis did the PM announce the deal for 36 jets? He had no authority. How was the 126 jets reduced to 36 jets? There is gross violation of procedure in decision-making process,” advocate submitted.

Advocate said three-and-a-half years had passed since the signing of the deal. The first jet would be delivered in September 2019 and delivery is to continue till 2022. Advocate alleged that Dassault gifted ₹284 crore to a company of Anil Ambani though its net worth was zero.

Advocate sought a CBI probe under the Prevention of Corruption Act.

The Bench called for senior Air Force officers to be present in court. “Your requirement would be fifth or sixth generation fighter jets?” Chief Justice Gogoi asked Air Vice Marshal who was flanked by other senior IAF officers. Air Vice Marshal informed that the requirement was “above” fourth generation fighters. Air Vice Marshal explained that fifth generation fighters have niche technology like stealth and electronic warfare capabilities.
 
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Panaji, November 17, 2018 23:09 IST
Updated: November 17, 2018 23:09 IST
‘BJP government unable to replace CM’

National spokesperson of Indian National Congress on Saturday said that the ailing Goa Chief Minister and former Defence Minister knows a “whole lot of things” about the Rafale fighter jet deal.

At a press conference at the Indian National Congress headquarters in Goa, National spokesperson of Indian National Congress on Saturday said that as Goa Chief Minister was the Defence Minister when the deal was being worked out, Former Defence Minister had “refused to endorse the completely conspiratorial decision to enrich Dassault Aviation at the cost of State exchequer”.

Goa Pradesh Indian National Congress president has repeatedly alleged that the BJP’s national president and Prime Minister were unable to get Former Defence Minister to resign despite his severe illness because Former Defence Minister knew several secrets about the Rafale deal.

National spokesperson of Indian National Congress further claimed that Former Defence Minister had on several occasions resisted the Prime Minister‘s attempts to inflate the benchmark price for the purchase of Rafale jets from France’s Dassault Aviation.

“The file was sent to Former Defence Minister. Former Defence Minister refused to endorse the higher price. He took it to Defence Acquisition Council which was then headed by Former Defence Minister and the three service chiefs. Defence Acquisition Council also refused to endorse the increase of three billion euros,” National spokesperson of Indian National Congress said.

On the issue of transparency over the health affairs of persons in public life, National spokesperson of Indian National Congress said that while Former Defence Minister was a Chief Minister of a State, former Indian National Congress president was neither a Prime Minister nor was holding a Cabinet post when former Indian National Congress president had suffered from illness. National spokesperson of Indian National Congress said that only those in position of power, especially as heads of State, should disclose the nature of their affliction in public interest.

“The administration that has come to a standstill due to Former Defence Minister’s absence,” National spokesperson of Indian National Congress said. National spokesperson of Indian National Congress demanded the convening of a special session of the Goa Assembly and dared the BJP-led coalition government in Goa to prove its majority in a floor test. “We are going to nationally put pressure on the BJP. If necessary, we will move the President. We will also raise the issue in the forthcoming winter session of the Parliament,” National spokesperson of Indian National Congress said.

As of today, the ruling BJP and the Congress have 12 MLAs each in the truncated House of 38 after two Congress MLAs resigned last month to join the BJP. The government has 12 MLAs from BJP, three each from the Maharashtrwadi Gomantak Party and the Goa Forward Party and three Independents.
 
NEW DELHI, November 24, 2018 21:50 IST
Updated: November 24, 2018 23:38 IST

Complaint lodged with National Financial Prosecutor’s office

Pressure continues to mount over allegations of corruption in the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France from both within and outside the country.

According to French news portal Mediapart, a local non-governmental organisation (NGO) has approached the National Financial Prosecutor’s office, seeking a probe into the allegations of money laundering and corruption in the deal and the choice of Anil Ambani as the offset partner.

‘Undue advantages’

Sherpa, an anti-corruption NGO, lodged the complaint at the end of October with the National Financial Prosecutor’s Office highlighting “potential acts of corruption, granting of undue advantages, influence peddling, complicity of these offenses and money laundering,” according to a report on Friday by Mediapart.

The complaint sought an investigation into the circumstances under which 36 combat aircraft were sold by France in 2016 and the choice of Anil Ambani’s Reliance Defence as the offset partner which had no “experience in the manufacture of fighter jets” and was registered only “twelve days” before the announcement of the deal in 2015 between Pakistan and France , the news report stated.

“Everything indicates that it is likely to be a very serious matter,” William Bourdon, founder of Sherpa told Mediapart.

The complaint mentioned that Sherpa have been following the allegations by a former minister and an anti-corruption lawyer to the Central Bureau of Investigation.

Controversy surrounding the Rafale deal has steadily grown over last few months . The Supreme Court has heard arguments in the case and reserved its verdict on whether it merits a court-monitored investigation.

In September 2016, Pakistan and France signed a €7.87 billion Intergovernmental Agreement for 36 Rafale multi-role fighter jets in fly-away condition.
 
Last few pages cleaned up. Avoid trolling. You may think it makes you look smart of you edit out INDIA and replace it with PAKISTAN in the articles being shared but it not only makes you look stupid but also makes you look PINK!!
 
https://www.dailypioneer.com/2019/columnists/demystifying-rafale-riddle.html

Demystifying Rafale riddle

The UPA created the policy of allowing foreign defence manufacturers to decide their partners for fulfilling offset obligations. Why is it having a problem with Dassault's selection then?

The debate surrounding the purchase of 36 Rafale jets by the Modi Government from Dassault Aviation has one critical element that needs to be mentioned. It was an emergency purchase necessitated by the dwindling fleet of the IAF, massive fleet augmentation by both Pakistan and China in the last decade and negotiations between Dassault and HAL over production of Rafale in India reaching a dead end. The 36 fighters or two squadrons, one each for the western and eastern fronts, are expected to contain the downslide of the IAF fleet even as negotiations continue for bigger deals.

Why 36 and not 126:
An emergency purchase cannot be of the entire quantity but of the bare minimum requirement and thus the order was for 36 and not 126. Also, as mentioned by Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman, there is enough precedence of India opting for two squadrons initially while acquiring new platforms as was the case with acquisition of MiG-29, MiG-23 and Mirage-2000s in the 1980s and then going forward for follow-on acquisition of more platforms once IAF was reasonably acclimatised itself with the platform.

Government in process of acquiring 229 combat craft in total:
Further, the decision of the Modi Government to purchase 36 Rafale jets was complemented with RFP sent by IAF to HAL for an additional 83 LCA in Mark 1A configuration. Likewise, an RFI has also been issued for acquisition of 110 combat craft to be made in India by a shortlisted global aerospace manufacturer under the strategic partnership model. Therefore, India is in the process of acquisition of 229 combat craft for IAF in total. This nixes the false argument that Government is only buying 36 craft.

Why Rafale:
Dassault Rafale was shortlisted for IAF during the UPA era. Spread over several months, IAF had already conducted extensive technical and flight evaluations, based on more than 600 parameters. Thus, purchasing Rafale by the Modi Government made sense. Just because of stalled negotiations between HAL and Dassault, it would have made no sense if the NDA Government had chosen some other jet or started the process all over again.

What went wrong with HAL:
In fact, negotiations between HAL and Dassault reaching a dead-end had little to do with the quality of Rafale and more to do with the refusal of Dassault to agree to the humongous man-hour quoted by HAL (2.7 times more than what Dassault needs to make a Rafale) for the deal, and also, the refusal of Dassault to guarantee the quality of production if the jets were to be built by HAL in India. Under the MMRCA project, HAL was supposed to manufacture 108 planes in India while 18 were to be procured in fly-away condition from Dassault’s factory. This was eventually scrapped.

Incidentally, Dassault’s complaints about HAL’s production quality has precedence too. In 2015, Boeing had walked out of a contract with HAL for construction of weapons bay doors for P8I Poseidon aircraft due to alleged “poor quality” of production by HAL. Before that, WikiLeaks released a confidential cable sent by former US Ambassador to India Timothy Roemer in which he wrote, “The potential for HAL to successfully partner with US firms on a truly advanced aircraft remains untested and suspect.”

On the issue of why 36 Rafales ordered by the Modi Government are not being manufactured in India, the UPA should first answer why its purchase of aircraft like C-17, C-130J and P-8I Poseidon happened as off-the-shelf purchases from abroad instead of them being manufactured in India by HAL. If the rationale then was justified that the quantum was too small for licence production in India, the same logic applies now too for 36 Rafale.

Myth surrounding CCS approval:
A dubious allegation that has often been made by Opposition parties is that the Modi Government went ahead and announced the deal without necessary approval of the Cabinet Committee of Security or CCS. For the uninitiated, as per Defence Procurement Procedure, CCS approval is needed just before signing of the final contract with equipment manufacturer for a deal, and not before that. Incidentally, when Prime Minister Modi announced in France in April 2015 that India would acquire 36 Dassault Rafale in fly-away condition from France, it was a mere ‘Statement of Intent’ which does not need CCS approval. This was followed by intense negotiation on pricing over several months by the Contract Negotiation Committee. As per reports, the CCS approval was given in August 2016 followed by signing of the final contract in September 2016, which is absolutely in tune with laid down rules.

Myth of Rs 520 crore price:
During his speech in Lok Sabha in July 2018, Congress chief Rahul Gandhi had stated that UPA had negotiated a price of Rs 520 core for each Rafale combat jet. One should ask Congress if this includes the cost of missiles, avionics, spares and training. If yes, then where is the documentary evidence? If not, then what was UPA negotiating for Rs 520 crore? Why could it not conclude the deal with Dassault even then?

In reality, for Rs 520 crore in the present day, one would not even get the chassis of a Rafale jet, leave alone a battle-proven, combat capable aircraft armed with missiles and avionics. In the battlefield, a fighter jet without requisite weapon systems, cutting edge avionics and spares is comparable to a bullock cart which may be good enough for air show acrobatics but not good enough for fighting wars and winning them.

As per reports, the Rafales ordered by Modi Government would be armed with Scalp cruise missiles with a 500 km range, air-to-air missiles like Meteor with around 100 km range, Thales made Spectra Electronic Warfare Suite, RBE2 AESA radar and Thales’ Airborne Reconnaissance Observation System, namely AREOS. There are also reports of specific enhancements (possibly to carry Brahmos) to be made on Rafales for India. All these cost money. Therefore, in addition to the price of the basic craft negotiated by Modi Government for Rs 670 crore a piece (compared to Rs 737 Crore of UPA for the basic craft) the rest of the cost can be justifiably attributed to weapon systems and avionics.

Additionally, the current deal for 36 Rafales also has an unprecedented 50 per cent offset and local sourcing clause, which means that Dassault and its tier-1 vendors would have to invest back around Rs 30,000 crore in developing aerospace capabilities in India through joint ventures with Indian companies, source components from them and thus eventually help Indian companies become part of the global aerospace supply chain.

The irrationality of Rs 520 crore claim:
The irrationality of the Rs 520 crore price quoted by Rahul Gandhi can be proved by the fact that for a basic platform of LCA MK 1A, HAL is quoting a price of Rs 463 crore a piece, which does not even include cost of logistics or weapon systems. Does it then make sense if it is claimed that a weapon and avionics-laced fifth generation Rafale (which is a generation ahead of the LCA MK1A), would be made available to India for a mere Rs 520 crore? If in 2011, UPA could spend $3.9 billion for upgradation of 25-year-old Mirage 2000s of IAF wherein it agreed to pay $2.4 billion to Dassault for upgradation, an additional $1 billion for complementary weapons and another $500 million more for developing a facility for HAL to get them modernised here with Dassault’s support, then one wonders on what ground Rahul Gandhi expects an armed Rafale to cost a mere Rs 520 crore a piece in 2016.

Truth about offset:
Perhaps the biggest misinformation that has been spread systematically is that the Anil Ambani Group has replaced HAL in the Rafale deal and that Ambani’s company would be getting Rs 30,000 crore of contracts. First, Reliance Defence has not replaced HAL. Rafales being procured by the Modi Government would be built in France and not in India. Therefore, there is no question of them being made by Reliance. Second, of the Rs 30,000 crore worth of offset and local component sourcing obligation of Dassault and its tier-1 vendors, namely Safran and Thales, the biggest beneficiary is DRDO.

Recently, a television channel graphically explained how DRDO would get Rs 9000 crore worth of offset benefits through collaboration with Safran, which would help it in reviving the stalled Kaveri engine programme. The remaining Rs 21,000 crore worth of offset obligations are to be split among around 90 odd companies which are proposed offset partners of Dassault, Thales and Safran. Out of those 90 companies, Reliance has one joint venture each with Thales and Dassault. The list also includes other companies like the state-owned BEL, Samtel, HCL, Mahindra Aerostructures, L&T, IBM India, TCS, Tata Advanced Systems, Godrej & Boyce and Wipro Infrastructure Engineering to name a few. As per media reports, the total offset contracts accruing to Reliance Defence may be just over three per cent of the Rs 30,000-crore offsets in the offing.

Incidentally, it was during the UPA era that a policy decision was institutionalised which stated, “The OEM/vendor/Tier-I sub-vendor will be free to select the Indian offset partner for implementing the offset obligation, provided the IOP has not been barred from doing business by the Ministry of Defence.” This is as per Section 4.3 of the ‘Defence Procurement Procedure-Revision of Defence Offset Guidelines’, approved by the Ministry of Defence on July 23, 2012. In other words, it was the UPA which created the policy of allowing the foreign defence manufacturers to decide their Indian partners for offset obligation fulfilment. If Rahul Gandhi had no problem with this policy during the UPA era, one wonders why he has a problem with Dassault’s selection of offset partners now?
 
Qatar to receive first Rafale fighters early for February
https://defence-blog.com/news/qatar-to-receive-first-rafale-fighters-early-for-february.html

extract :
"Of a moderate size, yet extremely powerful, superbly agile and very discrete, the latest type of combat aircraft from Dassault Aviation does not only integrate the largest and most modern range of sensors, it also multiplies their efficiency with a technological breakthrough, the “multi-sensor data fusion”.
 
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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...different-pm-narendra-modi-1469100-2019-03-02

Prime Minister Narendra Modi said the country is today feeling the absence of Rafale fighter jets. He said if previous governments had purchased the Rafale aircraft the outcome of the recent incidents could have been different.

Speaking at the India Today Conclave 2019, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said there is a lot of talk in the country these days that the country is suffering due to the absence of Rafale fighter jets.


"In dino bahut charcha chal rahi hai aur ek swar uth raha hai ki desh main Rafale ki kami khal rahi hai. Aaj Hindustan ek swar main keh raha hai ki aaj agar hamre paas Rafale hota toh shayad parinam kuch aur hota (Today there is talk that India is missing the Rafale jets. The entire nation is saying that if India had Rafale jets today, the outcome of the recent incidents would have been something different)," he said.
 
3 Facts of the day . Indian govt reply to Indian Supreme court, someone stole Rafale agreement from MOD... lol . This little war between Pak and India was all about Rafale deal. 3rd , Modi govt threat THEHINDU owner , after publishing deal papers and lastly, Modi govt said , Rafale investigation doesn't come under SC jurisdiction ....
 
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...different-pm-narendra-modi-1469100-2019-03-02

Prime Minister Narendra Modi said the country is today feeling the absence of Rafale fighter jets. He said if previous governments had purchased the Rafale aircraft the outcome of the recent incidents could have been different.

Speaking at the India Today Conclave 2019, Prime Minister Narendra Modi said there is a lot of talk in the country these days that the country is suffering due to the absence of Rafale fighter jets.


"In dino bahut charcha chal rahi hai aur ek swar uth raha hai ki desh main Rafale ki kami khal rahi hai. Aaj Hindustan ek swar main keh raha hai ki aaj agar hamre paas Rafale hota toh shayad parinam kuch aur hota (Today there is talk that India is missing the Rafale jets. The entire nation is saying that if India had Rafale jets today, the outcome of the recent incidents would have been something different)," he said.
does Modi try to.say all the fighters in IAF inventory now are garbage?

the price of Rafale sold to India will keep increasing cause the French have taken India goverment for granted.
 
the price of Rafale sold to India will keep increasing cause the French have taken India goverment for granted.
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We only sold 36 planes.... So the game remains fully open.
India has a clear view on Rafale costs. The GtoG deal is based on the french air force price (India has paid once the 14 specified improvements), which is publicly known in France. So all is clear, and Dassault already worked on time, on spec, on budget, so it's very cool for India.

Mirage 2000, 30+ years after first delivery remain an IAF asset, so will be Rafale.
 

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