CV-17 Shandong - Type 002 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[Deino]

Already from space ...

 

[GS Zhou]

below are the pictures of the China domestically-built carrier, the one that, in less than one year before, you laughed at for the so-called slow building progress.

BTW, for this new Chinese carrier, the construction work inside the dry dock was started in Mar. 2015, and it gets launched in Apr. 2017. I.e. two years only. So be prepared to see more to come.

Enjoy.

 

[Dungeness]

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@Carlosa
below are the pictures of the China domestically-built carrier, the one that, in less than one year before, you laughed at for the so-called slow building progress.

BTW, for this new Chinese carrier, the construction work inside the dry dock was started in Mar. 2015, and it gets launched in Apr. 2017. I.e. two years only. So be prepared to see more to come.

Enjoy.

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Time to slap some faces!

 

[samsara]

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@Carlosa
below are the pictures of the China domestically-built carrier, the one that, in less than one year before, you laughed at for the so-called slow building progress.

BTW, for this new Chinese carrier, the construction work inside the dry dock was started in Mar. 2015, and it gets launched in Apr. 2017. I.e. two years only. So be prepared to see more to come.

Enjoy.

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Thanks GS Zhou, but we simply can't prevent one from dumbing down oneself; I for one can hardly bother to waste time at other columns. Anyhow thanks for spending some time for that and the earlier's invite [though I prefer not].

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[phancong]

For every newly build China aircraft carrier will forever undermine Vietnam sovereignty claim of the SCS island, Vietnam definitely threaten by the rise of China naval power, 2 conventional aircraft carriers will allow China the total control the airspace and serve as the naval blockage Vietnam sea route in the SCS.

 

[rcrmj]

For every newly build China aircraft carrier will forever undermine Vietnam sovereignty claim of the SCS island, Vietnam definitely threaten by the rise of China naval power, 2 conventional aircraft carriers will allow China the total control the airspace and serve as the naval blockage Vietnam sea route in the SCS.

they are not for vietnam, one 52D plus 2 54B will be more than enough for their entire navy````its all about China and U.S 'courting' each other```

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[T-55]

 

[sinait]

The name of Shandong doesn't have momentum.

I heard the name Shandong being mentioned today during a clip regarding the carrier launch on CTGN, China Global Television Network. I thought it was confirmed.

 

[j20blackdragon]

Let's use CVN 79 as an example.

Ceremonial first cut of steel was in February 25, 2011.

Since the first cut of steel in 2011, more than 450 of the ship's 1,100 structural units had already been constructed prior to the keel-laying ceremony. The use of the dry-dock is not needed for any of this.

Keel-laying ceremony was on August 22, 2015.

To conclude the event, the crane operators were signaled to lift the aircraft carrier's engine room No. 2 unit into the dry-dock while more than 1,500 guests watched.

CVN 79 is currently under construction and is planned to be launched in 2018.

The bottom line is that 001A only required 2 years from keel-laying to launch. This is very fast for a nation with no prior experience building the hull of an aircraft carrier.

China also has no less than seven shipyards with berths large enough to build an aircraft carrier.

China has at least seven shipyards with berths large enough to built an aircraft carrier. When completed in 2015, the Changxing base was the largest shipyard in the world with annual shipbuilding capacity reaching eight million tons. China was said to have plans to build medium-size aircraft carrier in the Jiangnan Shipyard - Changxing Island. An aircraft carrier project would require about one percent of the yard's capacity, so raw shipyard capacity is not the limiting factor on the rate at which China's aircraft carrier fleet grows.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/cv-phase-2-units-overview.htm

China had at least seven shipyards with berths large enough (three hundred meters or more). These yards are located in Dalian, Qingdao, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Huludao. All are operated by either the China State Shipbuilding Corporation or the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation. Shanghai’s Changxing Island Shipyard, Dalian, and the Bohai Shipbuilding Heavy Industry complex near Huludao are strong candidates. Bohai has the added benefit of large, covered building sheds where carrier parts could be fabricated in modular fashion, out of the view of satellite surveillance. The company says it has the “largest indoor seven-step” ship construction facilities in China.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/cv-phase-2-shipyard.htm

Sometimes a smaller, less complex aircraft carrier is a good thing. During a WW3 scenario, multiple shipyards can participate in aircraft carrier construction because the 001A design is simple. China can outnumber the opponent with large numbers of 001A aircraft carriers. Quantity has a quality all its own.

An argument can be made that the ski-jump configuration limits fuel and ordnance load of the J-15.

But I can also argue that you don't need a large ordnance load for a 100kg small diameter bomb. 100kg is less than the weight of an AIM-120. Problem solved.

 

[samsara]

Let's use CVN 79 as an example.

Ceremonial first cut of steel was in February 25, 2011.

Since the first cut of steel in 2011, more than 450 of the ship's 1,100 structural units had already been constructed prior to the keel-laying ceremony. The use of the dry-dock is not needed for any of this.

Keel-laying ceremony was on August 22, 2015.

To conclude the event, the crane operators were signaled to lift the aircraft carrier's engine room No. 2 unit into the dry-dock while more than 1,500 guests watched.

CVN 79 is currently under construction and is planned to be launched in 2018.

The bottom line is that 001A only required 2 years from keel-laying to launch. This is very fast for a nation with no prior experience building the hull of an aircraft carrier.

China also has no less than seven shipyards with berths large enough to build an aircraft carrier.



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/cv-phase-2-units-overview.htm



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/cv-phase-2-shipyard.htm

Sometimes a smaller, less complex aircraft carrier is a good thing. During a WW3 scenario, multiple shipyards can participate in aircraft carrier construction because the 001A design is simple. China can outnumber the opponent with large numbers of 001A aircraft carriers. Quantity has a quality all its own.

An argument can be made that the ski-jump configuration limits fuel and ordnance load of the J-15.

But I can also argue that you don't need a large ordnance load for a 100kg small diameter bomb. 100kg is less than the weight of an AIM-120. Problem solved.

"China also has no less than seven shipyards with berths large enough to build an aircraft carrier."

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo 尹卓 indeed once mentioned that among the major shipbuilding companies in China, at least there are four entities having the capabilities to build aircraft carrier, not only Dalian shipyard and Shanghai JNCX (though he did not mention the rest).

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo 尹卓​

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo (born 1945) is also a senior researcher at the PLA Navy Equipment Research Center, he appears frequently as an expert commentator at some regular CCTV shows.

He was educated at the Université de Paris and the French Naval Academy

 

[j20blackdragon]

"China also has no less than seven shipyards with berths large enough to build an aircraft carrier."

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo 尹卓 indeed once mentioned that among the major shipbuilding companies in China, at least there are four entities having the capabilities to build aircraft carrier, not only Dalian shipyard and Shanghai JNCX (though he did not mention the rest).

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo 尹卓​

Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo (born 1945) is also a senior researcher at the PLA Navy Equipment Research Center, he appears frequently as an expert commentator at some regular CCTV shows.

He was educated at the Université de Paris and the French Naval Academy

That's the advantage of a smaller, less complex aircraft carrier. A large number of less sophisticated shipyards can produce the simple 001A design if the situation calls for it.

You only need two things. A dry dock big enough to accomodate the carrier. And a gantry crane to lift the modules into place.

Think about it like this. If a shoddy looking Indian shipyard can launch an aircraft carrier, the smaller Chinese shipyards can do the same.

On the other hand, the Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier is the most advanced aircraft carrier ever built, but only a single shipyard can build it. Who has the advantage here?

 

[UKBengali]

@j20blackdragon :

US can only build one aircraft carrier at a time.

China is planning to build two simultaneously.

China does have the advantage but remember the US already has 11 100,000 tonne carriers whereas China will only have 2 65,000 tonne ones in service by 2019

 

[ChineseToTheBone]

We also need to keep in mind that conventional wars fought in the near future will most likely allow for neither sufficient time nor enough opportunities to build new aircraft carriers properly, especially since naval battles could be fought near the waters surrounding China where our docks become easy targets for missiles.

 

[grey boy 2]