CV-17 Shandong - Type 002 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[grey boy 2]

 

[ahojunk]

Reminder: this thread is to discuss China's carrier and not other country's carrier.

I will delete any off topic posts.

 

[Place Of Space]

Chinese navy always ensures the conditions are perfect before doing things, since the hull has already been built there's no rush in launching. Same couldn't be said for another country, after all they can't even keep a ship upright in a drydock

The reason it says large rising tide comes on date about 25-26th. However, we can't exclude reasons the pre-launching work have not been finished. The world won't wait for a long time.

 

[ahojunk]

Home built aircraft carriers a strategic need
By Li Jie (China Daily) 09:13, April 24, 2017


China's first domestically built aircraft carrier, the second such vessel, will soon be commissioned, say reports. Designed to be a base for fighter jets and helicopters, the country's second aircraft carrier is the first of the Type 001A class.

The "homemade" aircraft carrier is expected to have a displacement of about 50,000 metric tons, and conventional engines and fighter jet launch systems, which are used on CNS Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier. However, on-board fighter jets may still have to resort to ski-jump ramps instead of the more advanced catapult-assistance take-off.

CNS Liaoning, rebuilt from a former Soviet cruiser, Admiral Kuznetsov-class carrier Varyag, is primarily used for training and research, while the new carrier will serve naval combat and defense missions, as well as non-combat missions ranging from fighting terrorism and piracy to taking part in rescue operations. Pilots and commanders for the new carrier have been trained and its equipment tested on Liaoning for future operations.

Although the new aircraft carrier will be a much-improved version of Liaoning, it will not be as advanced as its US counterparts, including the nuclear-powered US Nimitz-class and the latest Gerald Ford-class carriers, in terms of size, scale and combat capability. Also, it will take a few more years to complete the functional operations of the new vessel's devices and weapons before it can embark on sea trials.

This is all the more reason Beijing should intensify its research in and enhance its capacity to build aircraft carriers. Such vessels are a necessity for a major power aspiring to better protect its legitimate interests in the open seas, as well as to safeguard regional stability and international sea lanes. Since strong naval powers like the United States are unlikely to exchange equipment and technologies used in their top carriers, China should emulate successful models and learn how to build more advanced carriers.

Two aircraft carriers, regardless of their size, are not enough for a country such as China. The basic principle is that a country the size of China should have at least three aircraft carriers－one for training, one for naval duty and one for maintenance. Six of the 11 US aircraft carriers are deployed in the Pacific Ocean and the rest in the Atlantic Ocean, which help Washington to maintain a formidable maritime presence across the globe.

China has no intention of challenging the US' global dominance nor will it seek to strengthen its navy beyond its defense-oriented strategic need. Chinese vessels are mainly used for self-defense and to preserve regional security. And there is plenty of room for improvement with regard to their capability and combat readiness.

Since aircraft carriers will continue to play a key role in securing open sea operations, China's efforts to design and build a competent carrier from scratch are more than justified. Besides, China needs to convince its neighbors with which it has maritime disputes that the carriers will not be used to flex its military muscles but to make the region safer.

The author is a senior researcher at the Naval Military Studies Research Institute of the People's Liberation Army.

 

[rott]

Reminder: this thread is to discuss China's carrier and not other country's carrier.

I will delete any off topic posts.

We're just having fun, bro. Can't we a little?

 

[Stuttgart001]

The reason it says large rising tide comes on date about 25-26th. However, we can't exclude reasons the pre-launching work have not been finished. The world won't wait for a long time.

There is a high tide which is suitable for launching the carrier after 27th.

 

[Deino]

My favourite ones

 

[Deino]

Quite an interesting comparison ...

http://chinapower.csis.org/china-aircraft-carrier-type-001a/

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/856522611156697088

 

[j20blackdragon]

Gosh. Where do you get your news from?
First of all. Liaoning was bought from Ukraine not Russia. 30,000 blueprints included. All for 20million. 4 engines were perfectly greease sealed. Each engine itself already costs 20million.

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/articl...how-one-man-bought-china-its-aircraft-carrier

As a precaution, he shipped 40 tonnes of the carrier's blueprints to China overland in eight trucks

The absence of heavy black smoke should already tell you that the Liaoning is different from the Admiral Kuznetsov with regard to the engines.

 

[Deino]

Impressive Image, but that is the Liaoning from 2014!

 

[grey boy 2]

Guys, please keep this thread a "1st Chinese indigenous Aircraft Carrier" only, do not let those jealous naysayers to successfully derail this nice thread
Updates

 

[grey boy 2]

According to reliable source that 001A is 313m in length, 13m longer than 001, 75m in width, 5m wider than 001
张召忠23日在cctv4" 海峡两岸 "节目上说 : " 我看现在曝出来的消息 , 它(指001A)的长度是313米 , 就好像是比原来的瓦良格长了13米 ,"
" 宽度是75米 , 原来是70米 , 好像宽了5米 , 这样飞行甲板面积就比原来大很多了 ."
http://tv.cntv.cn/video/C10323/fa457d75d46e4c3c950e3f3d4581cd05

 

[cirr]

 

[samsara]

What do we know (so far) about China's second aircraft carrier?

Center for Strategic & International Studies (CSIS) - China Power (Undated article)

Five years after commissioning its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, China is now primed to launch its second carrier – the Type 001A. Unlike its Soviet-built predecessor, the Type 001A is China’s first domestically built carrier. Both carriers are similar in size and use a STOBAR (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery) system for the launch and recovery of aircraft. Although similar to the Liaoning, the Type 001A features some notable enhancements and represents an important step in China’s developing aircraft carrier program.

KEY FACTS

• The control tower island of the Type 001A is expected to be 10 percent smaller than that of the Liaoning.
• It will displace roughly 65,000 – 70,000 tons, a few thousand more tons than the Liaoning.
• It will feature the advanced Type 346 S-band AESA radar system.
• Its airwing will be slightly larger than that of the Liaoning, featuring around 8 additional aircraft.
• The Type 001A may have an internal arrangement that is better optimized than the Liaoning’s.
• It is expected to be commissioned around 2020.

COMPARING THE TYPE 001A AND THE LIAONING

Outlines derived from satellite photos demonstrate the similarities between the carriers.

KEY CHARACTERISTICS OF THE TYPE 001A

EXPLORE THE LIAONING

The Type 001A shares several similarities with the Liaoning. Explore our 3D model of the Liaoning below, or read more on our feature page.

https://sketchfab.com/models/526514cdf49b4cdcb6d01db84e9b1309


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[Deino]

Preparations for the celebration ... but it seems to rain !

Here a bit larger: