CV-16 Liaoning - Type 001 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[kungfugymnast]

You are so much funny …. Claiming this since years and now after two additional batches with about 40+ J-15s being delivered and now production switching to the cat-capable J-15B, you claim you wer right.

Do you see any J-15A being assigned to Type 002 Shandong class aircraft carrier so far? None, because as what the PLA Major General from Jiangsu province told me, he said China would not waste money building something that is not good when there's something better. Such as when there's Type 003 with EMALS, PLAN will forgo J-15A and concentrate building aircraft for Type 003 aircraft carrier and newer ships. The Type 002 and 001 will be re-assigned for other purpose such as serving as support carrier, drone carrier and in future, if China possessed VSTOL or STOVL fighters, the 2 older carriers with ski ramp would fit this role. China will focus on lighter drone VTOL before trying with STOVL fighters. Time will prove who's right and who's wrong.

 

[Beast]

Do you see any J-15A being assigned to Type 002 Shandong class aircraft carrier so far? None, because as what the PLA Major General from Jiangsu province told me, he said China would not waste money building something that is not good when there's something better. Such as when there's Type 003 with EMALS, PLAN will forgo J-15A and concentrate building aircraft for Type 003 aircraft carrier and newer ships. The Type 002 and 001 will be re-assigned for other purpose such as serving as support carrier, drone carrier and in future, if China possessed VSTOL or STOVL fighters, the 2 older carriers with ski ramp would fit this role. China will focus on lighter drone VTOL before trying with STOVL fighters. Time will prove who's right and who's wrong.

I don't think J-15A is no good. Even USN keeps the F-18.

You don't need stealth for all your carrier ops. There will be time when range, payload are more of priority. That is where J-15A shines.

 

[Deino]

Do you see any J-15A being assigned to Type 002 Shandong class aircraft carrier so far? None, because as what the PLA Major General from Jiangsu province told me, he said China would not waste money building something that is not good when there's something better. Such as when there's Type 003 with EMALS, PLAN will forgo J-15A and concentrate building aircraft for Type 003 aircraft carrier and newer ships. The Type 002 and 001 will be re-assigned for other purpose such as serving as support carrier, drone carrier and in future, if China possessed VSTOL or STOVL fighters, the 2 older carriers with ski ramp would fit this role. China will focus on lighter drone VTOL before trying with STOVL fighters.

You are correct ... and we are all wrong!
The Shandong is sailing since months with not a single J-15 - in your term the J-15A - ... all what it carries are fakes, mock ups or whatever and YOU alone know that it will convert to be a "support carrier, drone carrier"!

So please tell us what are these?? ... and repeat once again, Do you see any J-15A being assigned to Type 002 Shandong class aircraft carrier so far? None!

From April 2022

From May 2022

... Time will prove who's right and who's wrong.

No, time won't prove, it is already told, who's right and wrong! Do you really think anyone here is believing your lies, your false claims and constant provocations as being the one and only "knowledgeable one" here? In fact you are no-one, nothing but a liar and braggart. Shame on you!

 

[kungfugymnast]

You are correct ... and we are all wrong!
The Shandong is sailing since months with not a single J-15 - in your term the J-15A - ... all what it carries are fakes, mock ups or whatever and YOU alone know that it will convert to be a "support carrier, drone carrier"!

So please tell us what are these?? ... and repeat once again, Do you see any J-15A being assigned to Type 002 Shandong class aircraft carrier so far? None!

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From May 2022

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No, time won't prove, it is already told, who's right and wrong! Do you really think anyone here is believing your lies, your false claims and constant provocations as being the one and only "knowledgeable one" here? In fact you are no-one, nothing but a liar and braggart. Shame on you!

Just for sea trials and ensure all the equipment on Type 002 operational & working but not for long when Type 003 entering active service along with J-15B, J-35 fighters having the EMALS proven reliable. These J-15A on Shandong carriers aren't really new but from existing inventory by the way. After PLAN obtained more carriers with EMALS proven safe & reliable, these J-15A will be reassigned to land based with AESA & WS-10C after AL-31F lifespan ended. J-15A will serve as good shore defense interceptors and patrols due to its speed.

 

[Deino]

Just for sea trials and ensure all the equipment on Type 002 operational & working but not for long when Type 003 entering active service along with J-15B, J-35 fighters having the EMALS proven reliable. These J-15A on Shandong carriers aren't really new but from existing inventory by the way. After PLAN obtained more carriers with EMALS proven safe & reliable, these J-15A will be reassigned to land based with AESA & WS-10C after AL-31F lifespan ended. J-15A will serve as good shore defense interceptors and patrols due to its speed.

You are nothing but a liar!
Until 003 is ready many, many years will pass bye and until then the Shandong will carry an air wing of J-15s and that‘s just the reason why a base at Lingshui in the STC is established.

As such, all you claims about major changes from J-15A to B, all your claims about NO J-15 on the Shandong, no J-15 in the STC, production end after two batches are LIES!
Therefore plain and simple: SHUT UP or I‘ll ban you for each and every post that spreads a lie.

 

[kungfugymnast]

I don't think J-15A is no good. Even USN keeps the F-18.

You don't need stealth for all your carrier ops. There will be time when range, payload are more of priority. That is where J-15A shines.

F/A-18 is the most reliable & maintenance efficient fighter today. It's like Toyota of the sky, they would keep flying and flying able to delver weapons to destination and back. You have few aircraft manufactured in 1996 F/A-18C, F-16C, Su-27SK, Mig-29S all bought new at that time in your inventory. 10 years later in 2006, the Mig-29 can't fly anymore followed by Su-27 both requiring new engines. Another 10 years later in 2016 The F-16C & F/A-18C are still in working condition but the F/A-18C has better durability. This is why most countries love to buy US fighters. US flies the F/A-18E/F because they are good.

PLAN will build only J-15B powered by WS-10B but not J-15A to serve on Type 003 & upcoming aircraft carriers as missiles platform for fleet defense and offensive operations.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

F/A-18 is the most reliable & maintenance efficient fighter today. It's like Toyota of the sky, they would keep flying and flying able to delver weapons to destination and back. You have few aircraft manufactured in 1996 F/A-18C, F-16C, Su-27SK, Mig-29S all bought new at that time in your inventory. 10 years later in 2006, the Mig-29 can't fly anymore followed by Su-27 both requiring new engines. Another 10 years later in 2016 The F-16C & F/A-18C are still in working condition but the F/A-18C has better durability. This is why most countries love to buy US fighters. US flies the F/A-18E/F because they are good.

PLAN will build only J-15B powered by WS-10B but not J-15A to serve on Type 003 & upcoming aircraft carriers as missiles platform for fleet defense and offensive operations.

Stop your nonsense here you're not PLAN official

F/A-18 is the most reliable & maintenance efficient fighter today. It's like Toyota of the sky, they would keep flying and flying able to delver weapons to destination and back. You have few aircraft manufactured in 1996 F/A-18C, F-16C, Su-27SK, Mig-29S all bought new at that time in your inventory. 10 years later in 2006, the Mig-29 can't fly anymore followed by Su-27 both requiring new engines. Another 10 years later in 2016 The F-16C & F/A-18C are still in working condition but the F/A-18C has better durability. This is why most countries love to buy US fighters. US flies the F/A-18E/F because they are good.

PLAN will build only J-15B powered by WS-10B but not J-15A to serve on Type 003 & upcoming aircraft carriers as missiles platform for fleet defense and offensive operations.

Stop your nonsense here you're not PLAN officials

 

[LKJ86]

 

[LKJ86]

 

[Trevor Xue]

 

[Beast]

25 J-15 on deck and not to mention, there might be some more below deck.

 

[Deino]

25 J-15 on deck and not to mention, there might be some more below deck.

25?? … I see only 24

 

[JSCh]

 

[LKJ86]

 

[LKJ86]