CV-16 Liaoning - Type 001 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[LKJ86]

 

[lcloo]

Position of Liaoning as yesterday, sailing at full cruising speed North East of Philippines, going up North.

 

[obj 705A]

While other warships such as the DDGs do spend alot of time in the SCS however they also do spend a significant amount of time operating thousands of kilometers away from China well outside SCS. so has the Liaoning or Shandong ever gotten out of the south China sea or the nearby seas in the east? I mean these carriers keep patroling the SCS and the Chinese cost as if it is a Corvette and not a CV, the entire point of an aircraft carrier is to provide an airforce where an airbase is not available, the skies of the SCS is almost completely covered by aircrafts from airbases in the mainland and in the SCS islands, and these aircrafts are superior to the ones taking off from the CV because they can carry their full weapon load.

If they have never left those nearby seas then that pretty much confirmes that (at least for now) the PLAN is using these ships purely as training ships, which would actually make sense as a strategy, the PLAN only began operating carriers in 2012, they may have done some vistits to other foreign carriers before 2012 but that can't be compared to the several years of experience needed, so not only do they need to train on how to operate the carrier itself as efficiently as possible but they also have to train on how to integrate the ship with other warships such as the type 055 and whatever SSN that is accompanying them, in other words this is training not just for the crews but for the navy as a whole. These carriers and their crews are perfectly capable right now of waging war against helpless enemies if they want to, however the main adversary of them is not some groups like AlQaeda, they need to come up and train on strategies to take on the number one navy in the world and I believe that is why they are spending all those years for training, hopefully by the time the type 003 is ready they will finally decide that is enough training, however there is still a chance that even when the type 003 is operational they would still train on it for 1 or 2 years because in many ways a CATOBAR is different from an STOBAR CV.

 

[JSCh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1387382339395747843

Global Times @globaltimesnews
China state-affiliated media

PLA’s Liaoning aircraft carrier group reportedly crossed the Miyako Strait and sent an aircraft near the Diaoyu Islands, which, experts said, sends a warning to Japan amid its recent, repeated wrong statements on China’s Diaoyu Islands.

China's Liaoning aircraft carrier group crosses Miyako Strait, patrols Diaoyu Islands, 'warning to...​

The Liaoning aircraft carrier task group of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy reportedly crossed the Miyako Strait again on Monday and sent an aircraft near the Diaoyu Islands on...​

globaltimes.cn​

8:25 PM · Apr 28, 2021

 

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[JSCh]

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8-11 10:16
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[Pretty and Cool !! The female crew member of the Liaoning release team independently completed support mission for the first time]

Recently, the armored array on the flight deck of the Liaoning ship is ready to go. Following the commander’s instructions, the aircraft took off steadily. "Successful release!" This helicopter release and reception team composed entirely of female crew members successfully completed the independent support mission for the first time. (North Sea Fleet)

 

[JSCh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1432591483320901633

 

[kungfugymnast]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1432591483320901633

All these training would be shifted to Type 003, 004, 005 carriers later on. Fate of Liaoning and Shandong would most likely switch to marine helicopters & future VSTOL carriers.

 

[kungfugymnast]

All these training would be shifted to Type 003, 004, 005 carriers later on. Fate of Liaoning and Shandong would most likely switch to marine helicopters & future VSTOL carriers.

Russia & China joint venture in developing VSTOL fighter. This is either just rumour or made up news

 

[Deino]

Russia & China joint venture in developing VSTOL fighter. This is either just rumour or made up news

BS, plain and simple

 

[Daniel808]

While other warships such as the DDGs do spend alot of time in the SCS however they also do spend a significant amount of time operating thousands of kilometers away from China well outside SCS. so has the Liaoning or Shandong ever gotten out of the south China sea or the nearby seas in the east? I mean these carriers keep patroling the SCS and the Chinese cost as if it is a Corvette and not a CV, the entire point of an aircraft carrier is to provide an airforce where an airbase is not available, the skies of the SCS is almost completely covered by aircrafts from airbases in the mainland and in the SCS islands, and these aircrafts are superior to the ones taking off from the CV because they can carry their full weapon load.

If they have never left those nearby seas then that pretty much confirmes that (at least for now) the PLAN is using these ships purely as training ships, which would actually make sense as a strategy, the PLAN only began operating carriers in 2012, they may have done some vistits to other foreign carriers before 2012 but that can't be compared to the several years of experience needed, so not only do they need to train on how to operate the carrier itself as efficiently as possible but they also have to train on how to integrate the ship with other warships such as the type 055 and whatever SSN that is accompanying them, in other words this is training not just for the crews but for the navy as a whole. These carriers and their crews are perfectly capable right now of waging war against helpless enemies if they want to, however the main adversary of them is not some groups like AlQaeda, they need to come up and train on strategies to take on the number one navy in the world and I believe that is why they are spending all those years for training, hopefully by the time the type 003 is ready they will finally decide that is enough training, however there is still a chance that even when the type 003 is operational they would still train on it for 1 or 2 years because in many ways a CATOBAR is different from an STOBAR CV.

Aircraft Carrier in the peacetime is a Training & Diplomatic tools.
And China use both of that extensively with their Aircraft Carrier Fleet.

They did use their Aircraft Carrier Fleets to send the message for 'naughty country' with doing Combat Patrol across South China Sea & East China Sea while drill there.
And they indeed doing Combat Patrol as far as Western Pacific couple times, like in 2018, 2019 and so on. But that's it.

China's Navy Carrier Battle Group (CBG) Patrolling Western Pacific Region

http://www.ecns.cn/hd/2018-04-23/detail-ifytxtex4998548.shtml#


You want them to send their Carrier Battle Group to patrolling near Hawaii coast? For what?
They are still buying time at this moment, they know if something sh!t happens in 2025 would be much better for them than in 2021, Because they are in Rising state, unlike US who in Declining state. That's why they don't want to provoke unnecessary sh!t at this moment. Including bombing some random terrorists in Syria.
Syrian & Russian would be happy if China join them, but why need to provoke many radicals group and some Islamic countries. For now, most of China's overseas interests are safe from their attacks unlike western ones. Yes China have enemy like Taliban pakistan. But Pakistan is a capable ally of China, unlike Syria.


For indian ocean, they indeed have plan in near term to deploy their Carrier Battle Group (CBG) there. They already built a 1,120 feet long pier in their Djibouti Naval Base in 2019 to accomodate their Aircraft Carriers. They wouldn't built that pier if they don't have plan to going there

https://www.futuredirections.org.au...al-base-capable-of-docking-aircraft-carriers/

 

[JSCh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1472097860368109570

 

[JSCh]

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