CPEC’s Suki Kinari project progressing fast

[Edevelop]

New state of the art road tunnel has been opened for traffic. This tunnel will compliment millions of tourists & locals.

China Energy Group MD says 884MW project will be completed by mid-2024

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Managing Director of China Energy International Group, Wang Huihua, has announced that the construction of the 884-megawatt Suki Kinari (SK) Hydropower Project is progressing rapidly under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) initiatives.

The managing director highlighted the significant impact of the run-of-the-Kunhar-river hydropower project. He stated that the SK hydropower project is expected to create over 4,250 employment opportunities and contribute substantial electricity to the national grid. Huihua expressed confidence that the SK hydropower project would reach completion by the end of the current year or by mid-2024, with its powerhouse and reservoir section in the final phases of construction.

However, he noted that the 24-kilometer-long Hades Tunnel presents the most challenging aspect of the project due to difficult terrain, harsh winter weather conditions, and water drainage issues. To overcome these challenges, highly skilled manpower and state-of-the-art machinery have been deployed at the tunnel sites, with excavation and lining work underway both upstream and downstream.

The SK hydropower project is expected to add approximately three billion units of affordable electricity to the national grid annually. Huihua acknowledged that the project faced delays due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, he emphasised that construction work is now proceeding day and night to expedite progress.

“The completion of this hydropower plant will play an important role in the industrial development and economic recovery of Pakistan,” Huihua commented.

The SK Hydropower Project is a crucial component of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, representing the strong partnership between the two countries in advancing infrastructure and energy development in Pakistan.

‘CPEC’s Suki Kinari project progressing fast’ | The Express Tribune

China Energy Group MD says 884MW project will be completed by mid-2024

tribune.com.pk

 

[Crimson Blue]

Sorry to burst your bubble:


Minutes of 11th Joint Cooperation Committee (JCC) of the CPEC was released back in July 31, 2023. However when the bilaterally signed agreement was released earlier in September 2023 almost all of the agreed points in the July minutes were rejected by Chinese side. Following is brief summary of the developments which were agreed by Chinese in July JCC meeting but rejected in the meeting held in September.


1. China excluded cooperation in the areas of cross-border tourism in G-B, K-P and AJK and cooperation for promotion of coastal tourism from the final minutes of the 11th JCC

2. China also did not agree to Pakistan’s proposal for inclusion of Water Resources Management and Climate Change and Urban Infrastructure Development in the CPEC framework.

3. Islamababd wanted to change location of 300 MW Gwader power plant to Thar to use the local coal. But China did not agree to Pakistan’s text about the Gwadar plant,

4. The text related to the financial closing of 701 megawatts (MW) Azad Pattan hydropower project, 1,124MW Kohala power plant, and 1,320MW Thar Block 1 Shanghai Electric Co power plant was dropped from the final minutes. So These plants would not be operational as per original plan.


5. China also did not agree to a proposal to the inclusion of a 500kv transmission line from Hub to Gwadar to link the seaport city with the national grid in the CPEC framework.


6. China did not agree to “carry out joint studies for future development of Thar coal blocks, including development of mega power parks and power evacuation infrastructure, with a view to meet Pakistan’s energy needs from indigenous resources, conversion of coal into other products for domestic demand as well as exports.

7. China excluded the issue of financial challenges being faced by the power companies from the final minutes.


8. China also did not agree to the proposal for inclusion of 100MW KIU and 80MW Phander hydel power projects in the CPEC energy cooperation list and implementation through Chinese investors. China did not agree to the proposal of developing a policy framework for coal gasification to fertiliser projects based on Thar coal.


9. Similarly, there is no mention of the South-North gas pipeline project in the final minutes. The draft minutes had mentioned examination of feasibility study and Chinese cooperation for the purpose.

10. Pakistan had proposed Chinese participation in a strategic underground gas storage project but there is no mention of this mega project in the final minutes.

CPEC expansion plan in doldrums | The Express Tribune

China has not agreed to further expand cooperation in areas of energy, water management, climate change

tribune.com.pk

 

[SD 10]

Sorry to burst your bubble:


Minutes of 11th Joint Cooperation Committee (JCC) of the CPEC was released back in July 31, 2023. However when the bilaterally signed agreement was released earlier in September 2023 almost all of the agreed points in the July minutes were rejected by Chinese side. Following is brief summary of the developments which were agreed by Chinese in July JCC meeting but rejected in the meeting held in September.


1. China excluded cooperation in the areas of cross-border tourism in G-B, K-P and AJK and cooperation for promotion of coastal tourism from the final minutes of the 11th JCC

2. China also did not agree to Pakistan’s proposal for inclusion of Water Resources Management and Climate Change and Urban Infrastructure Development in the CPEC framework.

3. Islamababd wanted to change location of 300 MW Gwader power plant to Thar to use the local coal. But China did not agree to Pakistan’s text about the Gwadar plant,

4. The text related to the financial closing of 701 megawatts (MW) Azad Pattan hydropower project, 1,124MW Kohala power plant, and 1,320MW Thar Block 1 Shanghai Electric Co power plant was dropped from the final minutes. So These plants would not be operational as per original plan.


5. China also did not agree to a proposal to the inclusion of a 500kv transmission line from Hub to Gwadar to link the seaport city with the national grid in the CPEC framework.


6. China did not agree to “carry out joint studies for future development of Thar coal blocks, including development of mega power parks and power evacuation infrastructure, with a view to meet Pakistan’s energy needs from indigenous resources, conversion of coal into other products for domestic demand as well as exports.

7. China excluded the issue of financial challenges being faced by the power companies from the final minutes.


8. China also did not agree to the proposal for inclusion of 100MW KIU and 80MW Phander hydel power projects in the CPEC energy cooperation list and implementation through Chinese investors. China did not agree to the proposal of developing a policy framework for coal gasification to fertiliser projects based on Thar coal.


9. Similarly, there is no mention of the South-North gas pipeline project in the final minutes. The draft minutes had mentioned examination of feasibility study and Chinese cooperation for the purpose.

10. Pakistan had proposed Chinese participation in a strategic underground gas storage project but there is no mention of this mega project in the final minutes.

CPEC expansion plan in doldrums | The Express Tribune

China has not agreed to further expand cooperation in areas of energy, water management, climate change

tribune.com.pk

frankly, why development projects are even in cpec? we have destroyed CPEC by putting every shitty project in it.... Just make it a corridor and nothing else. Give china excess to the route and take a rent. No need to add stupid metros and motorways to it!

 

[Communism]

frankly, why development projects are even in cpec? we have destroyed CPEC by putting every shitty project in it.... Just make it a corridor and nothing else. Give china excess to the route and take a rent. No need to add stupid metros and motorways to it!

Because the entirety of "CPEC" was simply a Pakistani wishlist that the Chinese gave subsidized funding for in the understanding that Pakistan would know best how to develop their local environment.


The Pakistani Military Establishment immediately ran to the U.S. and demanded that the U.S. pay Pakistan to stop CPEC, and pretended that CPEC had something to do with anything "Strategic" at all.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then ran propaganda campaigns against CPEC (A project that was insisted on by the Pakistani side) to try to drum up U.S. support/angst to try to get free money from the U.S. to "counter" CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then collaborated with the U.S. to launch the "Panama Papers" coup against Nawaz Sharif, and installed into power Imran Khan, who was/is a western agent NGO creature, who sabotaged CPEC at every opportunity, with the express backing of the Pakistani Military Establishment, peddling to the U.S. that CPEC was a StRAteGiC ThReAT to the U.S., in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S. to cancel CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then launched campaigns to blame every single local problem on China.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then removed Imran Khan, as he was a Trump Administration appointee, and is trying to align with the U.S. in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S., and in the hopes of pressuring China to give more free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment has now alienated nearly every single possible partner in their attempts to turn an economic subsidy from China into a GeOStrAteGic Rent.


In response to this, the Chinese side finally pulled the plug on giving nearly unlimited free or highly subsidized money to Pakistan.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now courting the Saudis for free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now trying to selectively default on Chinese heavily subsidized loans and Chinese heavily subsidized infrastructure that was built by the express wishes of Pakistan.


The next step is seeing if the Biden Administration will give any significant financial support to Pakistan.


So far, the only financial support the U.S. gave was to pay for weapons/ammo for Ukraine.


By the way, I have now unloaded my position in Pakistani equities, as it is obvious that Pakistan isn't doing any of the things that are required to fix their economic fundamentals.


It's simply not worth my time to continue watching this shitshow.

 

[SD 10]

Because the entirety of "CPEC" was simply a Pakistani wishlist that the Chinese gave subsidized funding for in the understanding that Pakistan would know best how to develop their local environment.


The Pakistani Military Establishment immediately ran to the U.S. and demanded that the U.S. pay Pakistan to stop CPEC, and pretended that CPEC had something to do with anything "Strategic" at all.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then ran propaganda campaigns against CPEC (A project that was insisted on by the Pakistani side) to try to drum up U.S. support/angst to try to get free money from the U.S. to "counter" CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then collaborated with the U.S. to launch the "Panama Papers" coup against Nawaz Sharif, and installed into power Imran Khan, who was/is a western agent NGO creature, who sabotaged CPEC at every opportunity, with the express backing of the Pakistani Military Establishment, peddling to the U.S. that CPEC was a StRAteGiC ThReAT to the U.S., in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S. to cancel CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then launched campaigns to blame every single local problem on China.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then removed Imran Khan, as he was a Trump Administration appointee, and is trying to align with the U.S. in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S., and in the hopes of pressuring China to give more free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment has now alienated nearly every single possible partner in their attempts to turn an economic subsidy from China into a GeOStrAteGic Rent.


In response to this, the Chinese side finally pulled the plug on giving nearly unlimited free or highly subsidized money to Pakistan.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now courting the Saudis for free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now trying to selectively default on Chinese heavily subsidized loans and Chinese heavily subsidized infrastructure that was built by the express wishes of Pakistan.


The next step is seeing if the Biden Administration will give any significant financial support to Pakistan.


So far, the only financial support the U.S. gave was to pay for weapons/ammo for Ukraine.


By the way, I have now unloaded my position in Pakistani equities, as it is obvious that Pakistan isn't doing any of the things that are required to fix their economic fundamentals.


It's simply not worth my time to continue watching this shitshow.

well if CPEC is not about gateway to arabia ocean, than it should not have started to begin with. there is no way pakistan can pay all this back.

 

[Communism]

well if CPEC is not about gateway to arabia ocean, than it should not have started to begin with. there is no way pakistan can pay all this back.

The entire Gwadar Port was built on a Chinese grant.


Gwadar wasn't even part of CPEC.


Gwadar was started by Musharraf, and CPEC was started in ~2013 by Zardari and implemented by Nawaz Sharif.


The people who complain about Gwadar are simply U.S. proxies.


Pakistan can easily pay back its loans.


It simply chooses not to.


All it takes is getting Government Revenue to GDP ratio from ~10% to ~20%.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/rev@FPP/USA/FRA/JPN/GBR/SWE/ESP/ITA/ZAF/IND/PAK

 

[SD 10]

The entire Gwadar Port was built on a Chinese grant.


Gwadar wasn't even part of CPEC.


Gwadar was started by Musharraf, and CPEC was started in ~2013 by Zardari and implemented by Nawaz Sharif.


The people who complain about Gwadar are simply U.S. proxies.


Pakistan can easily pay back its loans.


It simply chooses not to.


All it takes is getting Government Revenue to GDP ratio from ~10% to ~20%.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/rev@FPP/USA/FRA/JPN/GBR/SWE/ESP/ITA/ZAF/IND/PAK

well pakistan can pay back .. sure. but the moment you talk about cutting subsidies the population goes crazy. Everyone is a leech on this country. the current govt could change policies as they are not elected but even they decided not to!
Truth is CPEC was destroyed by Pakistanis who wanted to get everything through it but ended up getting nothing but debt. Had it been a simple gateway agreement and Pakistan and China both would have progressed, with minor debt increase on Pakistan. Right now people have no thinking power. They just think its their right that everything should be provided by government for free.

 

[Communism]

well pakistan can pay back .. sure. but the moment you talk about cutting subsidies the population goes crazy. Everyone is a leech on this country. the current govt could change policies as they are not elected but even they decided not to!
Truth is CPEC was destroyed by Pakistanis who wanted to get everything through it but ended up getting nothing but debt. Had it been a simple gateway agreement and Pakistan and China both would have progressed, with minor debt increase on Pakistan. Right now people have no thinking power. They just think its their right that everything should be provided by government for free.

The narrative that Pakistan got "nothing" from CPEC is also a U.S. Trump Administration Narrative lazily copied from Indian narratives.


Pakistan got massive amounts of everything from CPEC.


Unfortunately, Nawaz Sharif was couped and that was the beginning of the end for CPEC.

 

[SD 10]

The narrative that Pakistan got "nothing" from CPEC is also a U.S. Trump Administration Narrative lazily copied from Indian narratives.


Pakistan got massive amounts of everything from CPEC.


Unfortunately, Nawaz Sharif was couped and that was the beginning of the end for CPEC.

nah, Pakistan didnt need motorways. Electricity projects sure. but metros, motorways and other development projects should not have been part of CPEC! It should have been a straight forward gateway agreement!
motorways are ade from billion of dollars and when you travel there, there is hardly any traffic, especially lack of transport trucks. which is the basic mode of transportation for trade. things like metros that needs subcidies to survive should have never started.

 

[Communism]

nah, Pakistan didnt need motorways. Electricity projects sure. but metros, motorways and other development projects should not have been part of CPEC! It should have been a straight forward gateway agreement!
motorways are ade from billion of dollars and when you travel there, there is hardly any traffic, especially lack of transport trucks. which is the basic mode of transportation for trade. things like metros that needs subcidies to survive should have never started.

The infrastructure building phase of CPEC was never completed due to the coup of Nawaz Sharif, which meant that the other stages were effectively scrapped.


Imran Khan got his orders from Washington to bankrupt Pakistan and that's what he did.


Imran Khan loaded up on as much subsidies as he could throughout his entire term before deliberately sabotaging the IMF program to deliver the coup de grace.


Pakistan was ordered by the Trump administration to halt all progress on CPEC when Nawaz Sharif was couped, so that's what Pakistan did.


Due to deliberate sabotage by Imran Khan, Pakistan's financial situation was engineered to cause a default.


Now Imran Khan is continuing his Washington directed activities in making sure that the next government will not be able to gain enough support from the public to do any meaningful reforms.


Washington now controls the Pakistani Military Establishment, Project Imran Khan, Possibly PPP, and their orders are to selectively default on Chinese highly subsidized loans and Chinese highly subsidized projects.

 

[SD 10]

The infrastructure building phase of CPEC was never completed due to the coup of Nawaz Sharif, which meant that the other stages were effectively scrapped.


Imran Khan got his orders from Washington to bankrupt Pakistan and that's what he did.


Imran Khan loaded up on as much subsidies as he could throughout his entire term before deliberately sabotaging the IMF program to deliver the coup de grace.


Pakistan was ordered by the Trump administration to halt all progress on CPEC when Nawaz Sharif was couped, so that's what Pakistan did.


Due to deliberate sabotage by Imran Khan, Pakistan's financial situation was engineered to cause a default.


Now Imran Khan is continuing his Washington directed activities in making sure that the next government will not be able to gain enough support from the public to do any meaningful reforms.


Washington now controls the Pakistani Military Establishment, Project Imran Khan, Possibly PPP, and their orders are to selectively default on Chinese highly subsidized loans and Chinese highly subsidized projects.

nawaz is the biggest Us lackey. Those who ruled for 40 years have nothing on their conscience according to you but someone who ruled for 3 years have bankrupted Pakistan. You have quite a deduction abilities! I am not even going to debate anymore, You are just from a long line of brain dead patwaris.
What IShaq dar has done and did after 2022 is what you call defaulting kid!

 

[Communism]

nawaz is the biggest Us lackey. Those who ruled for 40 years have nothing on their conscience according to you but someone who ruled for 3 years have bankrupted Pakistan. You have quite a deduction abilities! I am not even going to debate anymore, You are just from a long line of brain dead patwaris.
What IShaq dar has done and did after 2022 is what you call defaulting kid!

Nawaz Sharif was taken out by U.S. coup every single time he was Prime Minister, and for real, not getting voted out in a vote of no confidence like Project Imran Khan.


I know due to the outlets that the "street cred" of Imran Khan was laundered through.


"The Intercept" was co-opted by the U.S. Intelligence Apparatus roughly around the time that Glenn Greenwald was pushed out for his attempting to publish an article about the Hunter Biden Laptop Scandal.

Inside Glenn Greenwald’s Blowup With The Intercept

The site’s co-founder says he was being canceled, but insiders say he ostracized himself.

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Ishaq Dar did what he was able to within the constraints he was under.


There are only a few things one can do when increasing government revenue to GDP ratio is not a politically viable option.


1: Default (This is the option deliberately sought out by Project Imran Khan under orders from Washington)

2: Continuous currency devaluation, leading to eventual default (This is what Miftah Ismael was going to do under advice from the IMF)

3: Capital Controls, holding things together long enough to get additional cash injections (presumably from the Saudis, and apparently from selling arms/ammo to Ukraine) [This is what Ishaq Dar did]


The deliberately defaulting on Chinese Highly Subsidized Loans and Chinese Highly Subsidized Projects came after the "Interim Government" was put in.

 

[khansaheeb]

Because the entirety of "CPEC" was simply a Pakistani wishlist that the Chinese gave subsidized funding for in the understanding that Pakistan would know best how to develop their local environment.


The Pakistani Military Establishment immediately ran to the U.S. and demanded that the U.S. pay Pakistan to stop CPEC, and pretended that CPEC had something to do with anything "Strategic" at all.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then ran propaganda campaigns against CPEC (A project that was insisted on by the Pakistani side) to try to drum up U.S. support/angst to try to get free money from the U.S. to "counter" CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then collaborated with the U.S. to launch the "Panama Papers" coup against Nawaz Sharif, and installed into power Imran Khan, who was/is a western agent NGO creature, who sabotaged CPEC at every opportunity, with the express backing of the Pakistani Military Establishment, peddling to the U.S. that CPEC was a StRAteGiC ThReAT to the U.S., in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S. to cancel CPEC.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then launched campaigns to blame every single local problem on China.


The Pakistani Military Establishment then removed Imran Khan, as he was a Trump Administration appointee, and is trying to align with the U.S. in the hopes of getting free money from the U.S., and in the hopes of pressuring China to give more free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment has now alienated nearly every single possible partner in their attempts to turn an economic subsidy from China into a GeOStrAteGic Rent.


In response to this, the Chinese side finally pulled the plug on giving nearly unlimited free or highly subsidized money to Pakistan.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now courting the Saudis for free money.


The Pakistani Military Establishment is now trying to selectively default on Chinese heavily subsidized loans and Chinese heavily subsidized infrastructure that was built by the express wishes of Pakistan.


The next step is seeing if the Biden Administration will give any significant financial support to Pakistan.


So far, the only financial support the U.S. gave was to pay for weapons/ammo for Ukraine.


By the way, I have now unloaded my position in Pakistani equities, as it is obvious that Pakistan isn't doing any of the things that are required to fix their economic fundamentals.


It's simply not worth my time to continue watching this shitshow.

A new breed of army haters or a hindjew in disguise?

 

[Communism]

A new breed of army haters or a hindjew in disguise?

I am an American Geopolitical Analyst and I build my analysis upon all the data that comes in.


The data has changed, so my conclusions must also change.

 

[R2D2]

I am an American Geopolitical Analyst and I build my analysis upon all the data that comes in.


The data has changed, so my conclusions must also change.

Other people are also saying what you said. But how do you analyze Imran Khan going to Russia and sitting with Putin for three hours on the first day of attack on Ukraine? And the fact that Biden ignored Imran Khan after coming into power.