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CPEC & FTA: Deals built on Lies & Hurting Pakistan

CPEC & FTA: Deals built on Lies & Hurting Pakistan

I originally intended to write this back in 2014 after CPEC was first announced but lost my original copy around that time then I left PDF to focus on my career but have been so fed up with the lies told to Pakistani's I just had to come back and post.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, if you find fault feel free to let me know but my position is clear on FTA's and how CPEC is currently been implemented and I think time has already proven my case. I may write something more detailed for the FTA but thought I'd fit some points into this post anyways.

CPEC isn't entirely a bad idea, in fact it can be great for Pakistan but it seems to me a lot of what the public is fed is outright nonsense.

Transit Trade Profits

CPEC began on a lie, the lie that Chinese trade would transit through Pakistan.

Now this isn’t a complete lie but there are serious omissions of facts and completely exaggerated statements and numbers that have come out of the government particularly those of the PMLN. This was obvious to anyone that understood the distances and costs involved along with the location of China’s population and industries.

The first thing you need to realize is that 94% of China’s population and industries lie East of the Heihe Tengchong line:

the-heihe-tengchong-line-china-2.jpg



In fact 56% of China’s total GDP originates from 48 cities almost all of which are again located on, close to or east of the Heihe Tengchong line:

Metro-economic-country-growth-differential.jpg


As of right now probably the closest major industrial centre in China, Chengdu, lies about 6946 km by road from Gwadar.

What you always hear is how far it is to Kashgar but the city itself, in 2017, had a $12.5 Billion GDP with a GDP per capita comparable to Pakistan at $2729 whereas the more important cities like Chengdu which are much farther away have a GDP of $207.5 Billion USD with a per capita income of almost $13000 are the ones we should be talking about.

What Pakistani’s have never been explained is that different forms of freight incur different fees to move a ton of goods a particular distance. As per the US’ Bureau of Transportation Statics in 2004, the last year they updated figures for all forms of freight, transport by Truck cost 500% more than by Class I Rail which itself was about 30% more expensive than moving goods by sea.
https://www.bts.gov/content/average-freight-revenue-ton-mile

What this means is that even if transporting via Pakistan may be cheaper for a city like Kashgar it doesn’t mean that it’s cheaper for all Chinese cities particularly the wealthiest industrial hubs and population centres in China.

To highlight how utterly absurd this idea that Pakistan would be a transit hub for Chinese trade is you can view actual freight details for containers shipped out of any of the major Chinese industrial cities, like Chengdu, to any particular destination via www.searates.com and NONE of them have highlighted Pakistan’s CPEC route as their preferred course while others disregard Gwadar entirely for Karachi port. Even if we built direct rail links with China it still couldn’t compete going the sea route for virtually every major industrial hub and population centre in China.

Based on my calculations which took distance and BTS freight revenues into account CPEC as a transit route could only service 3 of the most sparsely populated and poorest provinces in China (Xingjiang, Tibet and Qinghai) who have a combined GDP about the same as Bangladesh which itself handled approximately 24 Million tons of cargo (2016-2017) or about 2.8 Million TEU’s via the Chittagong Port. If we were to charge the fee originally proposed by the Chairman of Bangladesh’s Tariff Commission, Mujibur Rahman, of about $13/tonne of Indian cargo and storage fees of $12/TEU assuming that’s what passes through Pakistan at most you’re looking at earning about $348 Million USD in transit and storage fees not these insane billion dollar figures politicians keep telling the public.
http://cpa.portal.gov.bd/sites/default/files/files/cpa.portal.gov.bd/page/ec61825e_0e1a_4655_882e_fdc7d4097738/Container Handling Statistics_CPA Bangla -- _1_.pdf
https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/transit-fee-too-low-1239754
https://www.joc.com/port-news/asian...s-raising-fee-stored-containers_20180416.html

When you include the costs of exporting of $474/TEU (includes documentary compliance and border compliance costs) as per World Bank numbers for Pakistsan with the tariff estimates I cited before in the best case Scenario Pakistan is generating about $1.7 Billion USD in economic activity and revenue (or about 0.005% of GDP). Assuming we build direct rail links to Kashgar (and everything we need to pickup from Xinjiang, Tibet and Qinghai is waiting for us there) that leads directly to Gwadar the distance along with US’ BTS latest 2017 estimates of freight costs via Class I Rail would result in an additional $100 Million USD (about .0003% of GDP) in revenue or lets say about $1.8 Billion USD in economic activity (about 0.006% of GDP).
http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data/exploretopics/trading-across-borders

This is nothing close to the ridiculous figures put out by the former government about generating $75 Billion USD from tolls on transit trade alone which gullible Pakistani’s were lead to believe and many still think is going to materialize.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/234547-CPEC-toll-income-to-be-thrice-the-budget-of-Pakistan-BoI

Here’s another problem, my rough estimates are assuming all of the exports/imports of that trade is travelling across Pakistan which won’t happen because a lot of it will travel East via rail within China and some via the Yiwu–London railway line or by truck to other Central Asian states. Furthermore, the 3 provinces I mentioned (Qinghai, XinJiang and Tibet) either don’t export much intended for foreign markets instead it’s meant for the domestic Chinese consumption (ex. Oil, ores, etc...) or produce goods in direct competition with Pakistani manufacturers (ex. Textiles).

It should be obvious to everyone now that the PMLN, PPP and even both the Military Generals and PTI themselves either seem to have no clue or have been lying to the Pakistani public about this imagined stimulus from transit trade through Pakistan hence why now 6 years after CPEC was established under the government lead by Nawaz Sharif and the PMLN no direct rail link connecting Pakistan and Kashgar exists nor have I seen any actual plans to build one rather all I hear about are stories of “feasibility studies” that were conducted none of which have ever been released to the public at least I can’t find even one.

The same promises made about CPEC were made under Military rule headed by Musharraf and PPP rule under Zardari about the FTA with China yet within 5 years of it being signed our trade deficit with China increased over 53% and none of the proposed benefits materialized in fact our top export is nothing more than non retail pure cotton yarn (View attachment):
View attachment 563259

Furthermore, the issue isn’t with the interest rates on the loans taken out from Chinese banks instead it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) which is based on capacity not actual electricity produced/consumed so regardless of whether Pakistan needs the electricity or can even pay for it none of that matters because as long as those plants exist they get paid. From what I’ve read about these agreements it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) on these projects which is INSANE not the interest rates on the loans for them.

To understand how utterly ridiculous this all is look no further than the Port Qasim Coal Fired Power Plant which, as per agreements filed with NEPRA, was estimated to cost $2.3 Billion USD and the IPP borrowed $1.424 Billion USD then would pay back the principal along with $392.78 Million USD in interest to Chinese banks. However, what is most striking is the ROE (Return on Equity) on this project of about $5.963 Billion or 259% (680%) versus the average for power plants in the US and Canada being about 10%. Considering Sinohydro owns 51% stake in the power plant that amounts to about $3.04 Billion USD which alongside the $392.78 Million going back to the Chinese bank in interest payments would result in a total of $3.43 Billion in foreign exchange lost as the money is repatriated into Yuan.
https://nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs/00...ont Coal Determination 13-02-2015 1839-41.PDF

Then you have the insane agreements signed for solar and wind power projects.

The "State of Industry Report" for 2014 released by NEPRA itself stated the Pakistani government was offering a total levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh.
https://www.nepra.org.pk/Publications/State of Industry Reports/State of Industry Report 2014.pdf

A far poorer Pakistani public would be paying even more than the Germans for wind energy.

Solar isn’t much better with NEPRA having published the tariffs for the 100 MW Quaid-e-Azam Solar power project back in 2014 citing that the levelized tariff for the project would be 14.1516 US cents/KWh for the first 10 years.
http://www.nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs...tional Acceptance of Upfront Tariff Solar.pdf

Remember these are tariffs were negotiated when Pakistan had an exchange rate of about Rs 100/USD whereas the exchange rate now is RS. 141/USD (a 40% increase in 5 years) and they’re even projecting that exchange rates could climb all the way to Rs. 200/USD
https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/05/pakistan-economic-crisis-usd-200-pkr/

Mind you these are just 3 examples and there was, last I had checked, more than $35 Billion advertised which would be spent specifically on the power sector. At those returns and interest rates the power projects alone would net Chinese banks and businesses $52.5 Billion USD. Overall this $35 Billion in FDI will result in $90 Billion USD of repayments if you go by my previous projections.

Remember former Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar referred to these IPP’s as a “noose around our necks” yet we have and continue to sign new agreements with them:
https://www.geo.tv/latest/224559-agreements-with-ipps-are-a-noose-around-our-necks-cjp

If we don’t pay they simply go to the ICSID, which Pakistan is a signatory of, and they sue us there in fact IPP’s have already done this successfully.
https://www.iisd.org/itn/2018/10/17...sses-pakistans-counterclaim-amr-arafa-hasaan/

Others have also sued us with LICA (London International Court of Arbitration) successfully.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1367589

We need to come to the realization that this is by the very definition of the word debt and predatory/exploitative projects need to be cancelled. The economic policies pursued by both Military and Civilian governments since the 90s are destroying Pakistan and we MUST reverse course.

What’s even stupider about all this is that Pakistani businesses can’t even take out loans from Pakistani banks to build up their businesses, construct these power plants nor can average Pakistani’s take loans to purchase homes that would boost infrastructure development in the country because of high interest rates offered by local banks (we have loans offered at 15% interest rates for real estate purchases alone). This is because the SBP has to keep interest rates high in order to control inflation which itself results from the FTA to China as well as the neo liberal economic policies initially pushed by Musharraf, the PPP and PMLN that have seen a lack of investment in local industries and an implementation of an import substitution policy while there is a surge in imports.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1976840/2-monetary-policy-sbp-hikes-interest-rate-150bps-12-25/

What I literally warned about back on PDF as far back as 2010 post FTA with China and continued to echo well past 2013 after CPEC was introduced has been confirmed correct. I have always made it clear FTA’s are bad for Pakistan at this stage of development, Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity to support these types of agreements. Simply look at the Pakistan Business Council (PBC’s) own report from 2013 which confirms how little we’re capable of utilizing them in comparison to a more developed Chinese industry (View attachment):
View attachment 563260

In fact to highlight how utterly foolish Imran Khan and the PTI government are acting by signing FTA 2.0 the report itself stated 6 years ago:

Many believe that the product coverage of the FTA should be increased i.e. increasing the number of products part of the current FTA. Given the low utilization (5%), this would be an exercise in futility. A more appropriate measure would be to renegotiate the FTA in such a way that products that have high potential of exports as well as enjoy a comparative advantage against the rest of the world are given higher concessions”

Why is it everyone refuses to acknowledge that Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity at this point? This refusal is literally killing Pakistan.

Aside from a focus on domestic lignite as a source of power generation my view has always been we should have instead focused on pipelines to china to transport refined fuel and natural gas. If we could meet 50% of China’s oil import requirements, about 4 Million bbl/day, turning that oil into refined petroleum with a profit margin of about $10/bbl we would easily earn almost $15 Billion USD in profit per year from exports to China with the pipeline(s) costing about $40 Billion USD. Guess what one of if not our fastest growing export to China also happens to be refined petroleum (View Attachment):
View attachment 563261

Mind you China’s oil and natural gas imports will grow dramatically over the coming years while the project can be further expanded to meet Japan’s needs as well all while circumventing India and the US’ abilities to blockade China during tensions while also bridging gaps between China and Japan. Meeting 100% of China’s natural gas imports with a tariff of $0.2/mmbtu would itself net Pakistan about $11 Billion USD/year at current consumption requirements but note that China’s oil/gas requirements will increase dramatically over the coming years.

Investments

The next big lie that’s been spread about CPEC is relatied to “investments” which in fact is debt taken out by Pakistan regardless of how government officials try to spin it

In total it’s projected about $35 Billion alone would be invested in the power sector going towards building power plants that largely run on imported coal and natural gas resulting in us hemorrhaging foreign exchange while limited money goes towards local Thar lignite.

How they attempt to fool the public is by stating that these power plants aren’t being constructed by the government instead by IPP’s which took out loans from Chinese banks so its not government debt. However, those loans don’t start until they break ground and that only happens after they’ve signed long term contracts with the government of Pakistan who would purchase the electricity produced at fixed rates (adjusted for inflation) while paying fee’s (i.e. ROE) based on capacity factor not actual electricity produced and consumed.

Actual Amount “Invested”

Another lie about CPEC is the total amount we would see in “investment”.

We are continually told different figures but the most popular one now is $62 Billion.

However, we need to take into account that this is to be invested over the course of 15 years maybe even longer now who even knows if the full amount would be invested in light of cancelled projects like the Gadani Power Project which was shelved back in 2015 as was a proposed coal fired power plant in Jehlum back in 2016, the Diamer-Bhasha dam in 2017 and the Rahim Yar Khan Coal power plant just this year 2019 which combined would have cost about $18 Billion USD.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1282883
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1211361/coal-based-projects-work-7000mw-power-plants-likely-abandoned/
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...an-pulls-plug-dam-deal-over-chinas-too-strict
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/pakistan-finally-shelves-coal-power-project-under-cpec/

You have cancellations of other projects outside of the power sector like the Quetta Mass Transit project while massive delays exist in the Karachi Circular Railway which is already 2 years behind schedule and no one can be entirely sure if it’ll even be built.
http://balochistanvoices.com/2017/1...and-water-supply-projects-dropped-in-7th-jcc/

Law & Order Issues

We’ve seen many cases of Chinese citizens in Pakistan violating our laws:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chi...r-harassing-them-at-cpec-project-site-1833792

We’ve got issues with Chinese peoples in Pakistan completely disrespecting our culture/traditions:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...an-slice-china-islamabad-170830081303813.html

Chinese firms evading taxes in Pakistan:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1710155/2-pakistan-catches-chinese-firm-evading-rs1-12b-taxes/

You have this cancer now exploiting our poor women many times it seems that girls are even being sold into prostitution or for their organs:
https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistani...tchmaking-draw-chinese-response-/4874646.html

This is exactly what I warned against years ago, Pakistan needs to limit Chinese travel in Pakistan solely to a few persons for major projects, education and religious tourism specifically for the Muslim community in China and nothing more.

I support oil pipelines through Pakistan to China and military ties between our countries but nothing more.

What do we need to do:

1. Cancel all FTA’s starting with our FTA to China focusing strictly on energy exports to China instead.

2. Cancel any CPEC project that is uneconomical or predatory/exploitative (ex. Like Port Qasim coal power plant where IPP’s are offered ridiculous ROE’s or solar and wind projects producing electricity at high tariffs). Solar can be a great source of energy for Pakistan but this needs to be produced domestically.

3. Raise import tariff rates back to where they were pre ‘99 coup (40-50% simple mean applied tariff on all products) though we should have no tariffs on the import of capital goods that aren’t produced domestically.

4. Dramatically increase funding for the FBR so they can hire the personnel, buy the equipment and purchase the third party services they require to investigate and prosecute tax thieves and enforce tax compliance. Based on my estimates the FBR is underfunded anywhere from 500-1400% and this has been going on for decades. This will also need to be coupled with dramatic increases in budgets for Pakistani customs.

5. Invest all additional tax revenue generated into our own industries, nothing else (not schools or hospitals), with a primary focus on import substitution starting with the primary sector (agriculture and mining), heavy machinery for the primary sector and low income housing.

Only after our industries have established themselves within Pakistan and can compete globally should our economy be opened up to foreign competition and challenging industries/companies in foreign markets.

I said this 8 years ago and warned that without doing this our economy was going to continue to tank.

The past and present government has reversed course on some CPEC projects they recognized as predatory, uneconomical and/or unsustainable but more needs to be done and instead of cancelling our FTA to China they’ve instead signed FTA 2.0 which is doomed to fail.

It’s time Pakistani’s realized what is happening to this country and stop fantasizing about quick fixes like Imran Khan and the PTI’s prayers for the Kekra 1 oil well which never should have been calculated into plans for development or this ridiculous notion of quickly retrieving who even knows how much illicit funds are stored in offshore bank accounts considering it takes years to prosecute these cases and most globally have met with little success.

IMF was a more important role in Pakistan economy than China in history.
 
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I want to know what you guys think about this.

I'm all for profits from the transit of Chinese goods across Pakistian but if you read what I wrote I made it clear this isn't what CPEC is about.

The Suez was essential for European trade with the Middle East, East Africa and Asia but if you read what posted I highlighted how the vast majority of China's population and industrial hubs are located East of the Heihe Tengchong line which, based on what I've read and my own calculations, would never use the CPEC routes even if direct rail links to Gwadar were built because it's simply uneconomical for them versus going the sea route.

Tell that the Chinese/Pakistani OBOR/BRI cheerleaders.
I agree with the basic thesis on transit. The Suez Canal numbers is a good upper bound on the total transit profits any project (CPEC, BRI) claims to deliver
 
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Pakistanis were quite ambivalent to CPEC when it was announced.

Then the hero visited China. Hero was not an economic expert, but the Chinese are great at manufacturing and they manufactured an economic expert out of him. When he came back he announced that CPEC was the best thing since sliced bread and all of Pakistan jumped on the CPEC bandwagon.

I would love to know the economics taught to him on his visit to China
 
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Tell me you are joking. Toll revenue is never enough to cover costs let alone generate profits. Inter state motorways take decades to break even depending on toll. You dont want to keep toll high so as to desist locals from travelling there. Its a problem that plaguing Yamuna expressway near Delhi as the toll is very high and locals from rural surrounding area generally avoid it even though its a much better route. And its built by Indian company, how patient and accommodating do u think a chinese company will be?
Public is not used to pay for services so toll roads will take a long time to break even. Unless its free I dont expect much traffic on the road. Only business and trade ppl who have enuf money and can make money will use the toll roads. Govt will have to initially set the toll price to very low to encourage usage which means certain loss.

Even down south I think twice before traveling as tolls itself make nearly 15-25% of the expenses while traveling.
 
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CPEC & FTA: Deals built on Lies & Hurting Pakistan

I originally intended to write this back in 2014 after CPEC was first announced but lost my original copy around that time then I left PDF to focus on my career but have been so fed up with the lies told to Pakistani's I just had to come back and post.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, if you find fault feel free to let me know but my position is clear on FTA's and how CPEC is currently been implemented and I think time has already proven my case. I may write something more detailed for the FTA but thought I'd fit some points into this post anyways.

CPEC isn't entirely a bad idea, in fact it can be great for Pakistan but it seems to me a lot of what the public is fed is outright nonsense.

Transit Trade Profits

CPEC began on a lie, the lie that Chinese trade would transit through Pakistan.

Now this isn’t a complete lie but there are serious omissions of facts and completely exaggerated statements and numbers that have come out of the government particularly those of the PMLN. This was obvious to anyone that understood the distances and costs involved along with the location of China’s population and industries.

The first thing you need to realize is that 94% of China’s population and industries lie East of the Heihe Tengchong line:

the-heihe-tengchong-line-china-2.jpg



In fact 56% of China’s total GDP originates from 48 cities almost all of which are again located on, close to or east of the Heihe Tengchong line:

Metro-economic-country-growth-differential.jpg


As of right now probably the closest major industrial centre in China, Chengdu, lies about 6946 km by road from Gwadar.

What you always hear is how far it is to Kashgar but the city itself, in 2017, had a $12.5 Billion GDP with a GDP per capita comparable to Pakistan at $2729 whereas the more important cities like Chengdu which are much farther away have a GDP of $207.5 Billion USD with a per capita income of almost $13000 are the ones we should be talking about.

What Pakistani’s have never been explained is that different forms of freight incur different fees to move a ton of goods a particular distance. As per the US’ Bureau of Transportation Statics in 2004, the last year they updated figures for all forms of freight, transport by Truck cost 500% more than by Class I Rail which itself was about 30% more expensive than moving goods by sea.
https://www.bts.gov/content/average-freight-revenue-ton-mile

What this means is that even if transporting via Pakistan may be cheaper for a city like Kashgar it doesn’t mean that it’s cheaper for all Chinese cities particularly the wealthiest industrial hubs and population centres in China.

To highlight how utterly absurd this idea that Pakistan would be a transit hub for Chinese trade is you can view actual freight details for containers shipped out of any of the major Chinese industrial cities, like Chengdu, to any particular destination via www.searates.com and NONE of them have highlighted Pakistan’s CPEC route as their preferred course while others disregard Gwadar entirely for Karachi port. Even if we built direct rail links with China it still couldn’t compete going the sea route for virtually every major industrial hub and population centre in China.

Based on my calculations which took distance and BTS freight revenues into account CPEC as a transit route could only service 3 of the most sparsely populated and poorest provinces in China (Xingjiang, Tibet and Qinghai) who have a combined GDP about the same as Bangladesh which itself handled approximately 24 Million tons of cargo (2016-2017) or about 2.8 Million TEU’s via the Chittagong Port. If we were to charge the fee originally proposed by the Chairman of Bangladesh’s Tariff Commission, Mujibur Rahman, of about $13/tonne of Indian cargo and storage fees of $12/TEU assuming that’s what passes through Pakistan at most you’re looking at earning about $348 Million USD in transit and storage fees not these insane billion dollar figures politicians keep telling the public.
http://cpa.portal.gov.bd/sites/default/files/files/cpa.portal.gov.bd/page/ec61825e_0e1a_4655_882e_fdc7d4097738/Container Handling Statistics_CPA Bangla -- _1_.pdf
https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/transit-fee-too-low-1239754
https://www.joc.com/port-news/asian...s-raising-fee-stored-containers_20180416.html

When you include the costs of exporting of $474/TEU (includes documentary compliance and border compliance costs) as per World Bank numbers for Pakistsan with the tariff estimates I cited before in the best case Scenario Pakistan is generating about $1.7 Billion USD in economic activity and revenue (or about 0.005% of GDP). Assuming we build direct rail links to Kashgar (and everything we need to pickup from Xinjiang, Tibet and Qinghai is waiting for us there) that leads directly to Gwadar the distance along with US’ BTS latest 2017 estimates of freight costs via Class I Rail would result in an additional $100 Million USD (about .0003% of GDP) in revenue or lets say about $1.8 Billion USD in economic activity (about 0.006% of GDP).
http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data/exploretopics/trading-across-borders

This is nothing close to the ridiculous figures put out by the former government about generating $75 Billion USD from tolls on transit trade alone which gullible Pakistani’s were lead to believe and many still think is going to materialize.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/234547-CPEC-toll-income-to-be-thrice-the-budget-of-Pakistan-BoI

Here’s another problem, my rough estimates are assuming all of the exports/imports of that trade is travelling across Pakistan which won’t happen because a lot of it will travel East via rail within China and some via the Yiwu–London railway line or by truck to other Central Asian states. Furthermore, the 3 provinces I mentioned (Qinghai, XinJiang and Tibet) either don’t export much intended for foreign markets instead it’s meant for the domestic Chinese consumption (ex. Oil, ores, etc...) or produce goods in direct competition with Pakistani manufacturers (ex. Textiles).

It should be obvious to everyone now that the PMLN, PPP and even both the Military Generals and PTI themselves either seem to have no clue or have been lying to the Pakistani public about this imagined stimulus from transit trade through Pakistan hence why now 6 years after CPEC was established under the government lead by Nawaz Sharif and the PMLN no direct rail link connecting Pakistan and Kashgar exists nor have I seen any actual plans to build one rather all I hear about are stories of “feasibility studies” that were conducted none of which have ever been released to the public at least I can’t find even one.

The same promises made about CPEC were made under Military rule headed by Musharraf and PPP rule under Zardari about the FTA with China yet within 5 years of it being signed our trade deficit with China increased over 53% and none of the proposed benefits materialized in fact our top export is nothing more than non retail pure cotton yarn (View attachment):
View attachment 563259

Furthermore, the issue isn’t with the interest rates on the loans taken out from Chinese banks instead it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) which is based on capacity not actual electricity produced/consumed so regardless of whether Pakistan needs the electricity or can even pay for it none of that matters because as long as those plants exist they get paid. From what I’ve read about these agreements it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) on these projects which is INSANE not the interest rates on the loans for them.

To understand how utterly ridiculous this all is look no further than the Port Qasim Coal Fired Power Plant which, as per agreements filed with NEPRA, was estimated to cost $2.3 Billion USD and the IPP borrowed $1.424 Billion USD then would pay back the principal along with $392.78 Million USD in interest to Chinese banks. However, what is most striking is the ROE (Return on Equity) on this project of about $5.963 Billion or 259% (680%) versus the average for power plants in the US and Canada being about 10%. Considering Sinohydro owns 51% stake in the power plant that amounts to about $3.04 Billion USD which alongside the $392.78 Million going back to the Chinese bank in interest payments would result in a total of $3.43 Billion in foreign exchange lost as the money is repatriated into Yuan.
https://nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs/00...ont Coal Determination 13-02-2015 1839-41.PDF

Then you have the insane agreements signed for solar and wind power projects.

The "State of Industry Report" for 2014 released by NEPRA itself stated the Pakistani government was offering a total levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh.
https://www.nepra.org.pk/Publications/State of Industry Reports/State of Industry Report 2014.pdf

A far poorer Pakistani public would be paying even more than the Germans for wind energy.

Solar isn’t much better with NEPRA having published the tariffs for the 100 MW Quaid-e-Azam Solar power project back in 2014 citing that the levelized tariff for the project would be 14.1516 US cents/KWh for the first 10 years.
http://www.nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs...tional Acceptance of Upfront Tariff Solar.pdf

Remember these are tariffs were negotiated when Pakistan had an exchange rate of about Rs 100/USD whereas the exchange rate now is RS. 141/USD (a 40% increase in 5 years) and they’re even projecting that exchange rates could climb all the way to Rs. 200/USD
https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/05/pakistan-economic-crisis-usd-200-pkr/

Mind you these are just 3 examples and there was, last I had checked, more than $35 Billion advertised which would be spent specifically on the power sector. At those returns and interest rates the power projects alone would net Chinese banks and businesses $52.5 Billion USD. Overall this $35 Billion in FDI will result in $90 Billion USD of repayments if you go by my previous projections.

Remember former Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar referred to these IPP’s as a “noose around our necks” yet we have and continue to sign new agreements with them:
https://www.geo.tv/latest/224559-agreements-with-ipps-are-a-noose-around-our-necks-cjp

If we don’t pay they simply go to the ICSID, which Pakistan is a signatory of, and they sue us there in fact IPP’s have already done this successfully.
https://www.iisd.org/itn/2018/10/17...sses-pakistans-counterclaim-amr-arafa-hasaan/

Others have also sued us with LICA (London International Court of Arbitration) successfully.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1367589

We need to come to the realization that this is by the very definition of the word debt and predatory/exploitative projects need to be cancelled. The economic policies pursued by both Military and Civilian governments since the 90s are destroying Pakistan and we MUST reverse course.

What’s even stupider about all this is that Pakistani businesses can’t even take out loans from Pakistani banks to build up their businesses, construct these power plants nor can average Pakistani’s take loans to purchase homes that would boost infrastructure development in the country because of high interest rates offered by local banks (we have loans offered at 15% interest rates for real estate purchases alone). This is because the SBP has to keep interest rates high in order to control inflation which itself results from the FTA to China as well as the neo liberal economic policies initially pushed by Musharraf, the PPP and PMLN that have seen a lack of investment in local industries and an implementation of an import substitution policy while there is a surge in imports.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1976840/2-monetary-policy-sbp-hikes-interest-rate-150bps-12-25/

What I literally warned about back on PDF as far back as 2010 post FTA with China and continued to echo well past 2013 after CPEC was introduced has been confirmed correct. I have always made it clear FTA’s are bad for Pakistan at this stage of development, Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity to support these types of agreements. Simply look at the Pakistan Business Council (PBC’s) own report from 2013 which confirms how little we’re capable of utilizing them in comparison to a more developed Chinese industry (View attachment):
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In fact to highlight how utterly foolish Imran Khan and the PTI government are acting by signing FTA 2.0 the report itself stated 6 years ago:

Many believe that the product coverage of the FTA should be increased i.e. increasing the number of products part of the current FTA. Given the low utilization (5%), this would be an exercise in futility. A more appropriate measure would be to renegotiate the FTA in such a way that products that have high potential of exports as well as enjoy a comparative advantage against the rest of the world are given higher concessions”

Why is it everyone refuses to acknowledge that Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity at this point? This refusal is literally killing Pakistan.

Aside from a focus on domestic lignite as a source of power generation my view has always been we should have instead focused on pipelines to china to transport refined fuel and natural gas. If we could meet 50% of China’s oil import requirements, about 4 Million bbl/day, turning that oil into refined petroleum with a profit margin of about $10/bbl we would easily earn almost $15 Billion USD in profit per year from exports to China with the pipeline(s) costing about $40 Billion USD. Guess what one of if not our fastest growing export to China also happens to be refined petroleum (View Attachment):
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Mind you China’s oil and natural gas imports will grow dramatically over the coming years while the project can be further expanded to meet Japan’s needs as well all while circumventing India and the US’ abilities to blockade China during tensions while also bridging gaps between China and Japan. Meeting 100% of China’s natural gas imports with a tariff of $0.2/mmbtu would itself net Pakistan about $11 Billion USD/year at current consumption requirements but note that China’s oil/gas requirements will increase dramatically over the coming years.

Investments

The next big lie that’s been spread about CPEC is relatied to “investments” which in fact is debt taken out by Pakistan regardless of how government officials try to spin it

In total it’s projected about $35 Billion alone would be invested in the power sector going towards building power plants that largely run on imported coal and natural gas resulting in us hemorrhaging foreign exchange while limited money goes towards local Thar lignite.

How they attempt to fool the public is by stating that these power plants aren’t being constructed by the government instead by IPP’s which took out loans from Chinese banks so its not government debt. However, those loans don’t start until they break ground and that only happens after they’ve signed long term contracts with the government of Pakistan who would purchase the electricity produced at fixed rates (adjusted for inflation) while paying fee’s (i.e. ROE) based on capacity factor not actual electricity produced and consumed.

Actual Amount “Invested”

Another lie about CPEC is the total amount we would see in “investment”.

We are continually told different figures but the most popular one now is $62 Billion.

However, we need to take into account that this is to be invested over the course of 15 years maybe even longer now who even knows if the full amount would be invested in light of cancelled projects like the Gadani Power Project which was shelved back in 2015 as was a proposed coal fired power plant in Jehlum back in 2016, the Diamer-Bhasha dam in 2017 and the Rahim Yar Khan Coal power plant just this year 2019 which combined would have cost about $18 Billion USD.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1282883
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1211361/coal-based-projects-work-7000mw-power-plants-likely-abandoned/
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...an-pulls-plug-dam-deal-over-chinas-too-strict
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/pakistan-finally-shelves-coal-power-project-under-cpec/

You have cancellations of other projects outside of the power sector like the Quetta Mass Transit project while massive delays exist in the Karachi Circular Railway which is already 2 years behind schedule and no one can be entirely sure if it’ll even be built.
http://balochistanvoices.com/2017/1...and-water-supply-projects-dropped-in-7th-jcc/

Law & Order Issues

We’ve seen many cases of Chinese citizens in Pakistan violating our laws:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chi...r-harassing-them-at-cpec-project-site-1833792

We’ve got issues with Chinese peoples in Pakistan completely disrespecting our culture/traditions:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...an-slice-china-islamabad-170830081303813.html

Chinese firms evading taxes in Pakistan:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1710155/2-pakistan-catches-chinese-firm-evading-rs1-12b-taxes/

You have this cancer now exploiting our poor women many times it seems that girls are even being sold into prostitution or for their organs:
https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistani...tchmaking-draw-chinese-response-/4874646.html

This is exactly what I warned against years ago, Pakistan needs to limit Chinese travel in Pakistan solely to a few persons for major projects, education and religious tourism specifically for the Muslim community in China and nothing more.

I support oil pipelines through Pakistan to China and military ties between our countries but nothing more.

What do we need to do:

1. Cancel all FTA’s starting with our FTA to China focusing strictly on energy exports to China instead.

2. Cancel any CPEC project that is uneconomical or predatory/exploitative (ex. Like Port Qasim coal power plant where IPP’s are offered ridiculous ROE’s or solar and wind projects producing electricity at high tariffs). Solar can be a great source of energy for Pakistan but this needs to be produced domestically.

3. Raise import tariff rates back to where they were pre ‘99 coup (40-50% simple mean applied tariff on all products) though we should have no tariffs on the import of capital goods that aren’t produced domestically.

4. Dramatically increase funding for the FBR so they can hire the personnel, buy the equipment and purchase the third party services they require to investigate and prosecute tax thieves and enforce tax compliance. Based on my estimates the FBR is underfunded anywhere from 500-1400% and this has been going on for decades. This will also need to be coupled with dramatic increases in budgets for Pakistani customs.

5. Invest all additional tax revenue generated into our own industries, nothing else (not schools or hospitals), with a primary focus on import substitution starting with the primary sector (agriculture and mining), heavy machinery for the primary sector and low income housing.

Only after our industries have established themselves within Pakistan and can compete globally should our economy be opened up to foreign competition and challenging industries/companies in foreign markets.

I said this 8 years ago and warned that without doing this our economy was going to continue to tank.

The past and present government has reversed course on some CPEC projects they recognized as predatory, uneconomical and/or unsustainable but more needs to be done and instead of cancelling our FTA to China they’ve instead signed FTA 2.0 which is doomed to fail.

It’s time Pakistani’s realized what is happening to this country and stop fantasizing about quick fixes like Imran Khan and the PTI’s prayers for the Kekra 1 oil well which never should have been calculated into plans for development or this ridiculous notion of quickly retrieving who even knows how much illicit funds are stored in offshore bank accounts considering it takes years to prosecute these cases and most globally have met with little success.
You are right and wrong.
People in Pakistan knows that China would not use Pakistan as a permanent transit route and most of its major cities are far far away.
People who have a certain knowledge of economy knows that.
But we have a mass of uneducated people....
Media who is pied piper and can select or reject any idea, person or notion has hyped cpec on the orders of the government that filled their coffers..
What Pakistan needs to understand is that, even when there are two brothers both would look for their own interests.
And so is China entitled too to look for their own interest..
And so is Pakistan..
If previous government for the sake of their image cut bad deals with China then it is not a Chinese problem, but it is a Pakistan problem..
High duties on import would destroy the import I hope. And fbr needs to be remodelled . We have hopes from shabber and I don't expect him to complete his target 1000 percent but only 50 to 75 percent is huge step..
But when you ask for tax form the people earning billions but pay nothing..
There would be a choas in media and what can you do about that...
When your nation doesn't want to correct itself then what can you do.
When you don't want to pay tax what can you do.
When you only want to invest in property or rent buildings or imports then what can we do.
And if you do anything against them you see chaos on media and the next day arastoos are shaping a different narrative proving the guilty party to non guilty party..
A firm hand is needed.
Pardon the opposition by promising them never to participate gain in politics and send them in exile.
And along with the establishment control media with firm hand and do out the necessary reforms which would crush the people but they needs to be done once and for all .
 
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First of all, it was only Idiots who were saying that China is building CPEC for all Chinese trade traffic otherwise it was clear from day one that main purpose of CPEC is to link under developed western China to sea via Pakistan which is much shorter than Chinese ports to boost Chinese efforts to develop that region. And same route can be used as backup in case of worst case scenario (which may or may not happen) in South China sea. Yes, our politicians and officials have habit of exaggerating things which should be taken with truck load of salt.

Let's see what we have built under CPEC till now?

1. Bulk of funds went to power sector till now, a much needed investment to address electricity crises and we needed this electricity for domestic consumption and run our own industries not Chinese.

the pakistani power sector is a complete mess. availability is one metric. the price of electricity is another metric
 
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1. Bulk of funds went to power sector till now, a much needed investment to address electricity crises and we needed this electricity for domestic consumption and run our own industries not Chinese.
We can debate on rate of interest on loans

If you read my post you'd have seen that these power plants are earning exorbitant Return on Equity or in some cases charging ridiculously high tariffs like the levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh back in 2014 forget the fact that the rupee has devalued by 46% since then.

Here in North America (US/Canada) IPP's would earn about 10% ROE on the same projects Pakistan is signing deals which would net them 680% (ex. Port Qasim Coal Power Plant).

Does this sound like a good deal or smart planning?

If the $35 Billion USD of power plant deals they signed are offering the same ROE's and were built on the same interest rates you could see $90 Billion USD in repayments by Pakistan over their lifetime.

This is only going to worsen our balance of payment problem.

The more forex we hemorrhage the higher the interest rates need to be raised by the SBP and the higher they get the more difficult it becomes for our own businesses to borrow money to construct future power plants, expand their businesses and it becomes impossible for low to middle income Pakistani families to purchase homes which hampers our own economic growth (we have banks offering mortgages at 15% interest rates).

The Ministry of Planning, Development & Reforms is outright lying or misleading the public. They keep reiterating that the loans are taken out by IPP's against their balance sheet but refuse to acknowledge that the GoP has signed long term agreements to purchase electricity at set rates and pay those IPP's based on capacity built in the end it’s all the same and the public bears the brunt.

All our FTA's particularly the one to China are just straight up bad for Pakistan at this stage of development while CPEC is mired with horrible deals for power plants that are going to create even more problems for us in the future.

3. Third sector where most funds are spent is mass transit, Mass transits are need of big cities however the way these projects are executed and costs incurred is cause of concern but you can't blame Chinese for own corruption.

I agree, ultimately it was our own governments that signed these contracts and what I'm trying to explain is that whether we're talking FTA's, CPEC, Mass Transit projects the public just seems ignorant to the long term impacts of bad government decisions until it's too late.

The Karachi Circular Railway sounds like a great idea but even according to the very feasibility studies done on this project:
The fare structure of mass transit system should be higher than that of existing minibuses in order to make the project financially stable. A fare level of Rs. 30-40 would be possible for rail-base system according to the willingness-to-pay survey conducted in the Study.”
http://open_jicareport.jica.go.jp/pdf/12086369_01.pdf
http://open_jicareport.jica.go.jp/pdf/12088381_09.pdf
http://open_jicareport.jica.go.jp/740/740/740_117_12088381.html

There’s still no confirmation on what the actual fare rates are going to be but according to the feasibility report on the project it’ll be more expensive than many other forms of existing public transport particularly the longer the commute:

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The report even compares projected fare rates to those of the DMRC (Delhi Metro Rail Corporation) which saw a loss last year (2018) of $20.9 Million USD and $50.1 Million the year before that (2017) and has incurred a loss every year after its first year of inception:


So will the Karachi Circular Railway need to be subsidized?

Aside from Tokyo and Hong Kong’s mass public transit systems I haven’t heard of a public transit system that was was profitable let alone self sufficient. This is particularly important in light of the fact that Lahore’s metro bus service has been losing money daily (PKR 5 Million per day in 2014 to PKR 8 Million per day by 2018) and needs to be subsidized while in other cases cost estimates are totally off like the Peshawar Metrobus project.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/780840/metro-bus-service-punjab-pays-rs5m-per-day-as-subsidy/
https://www.geo.tv/latest/211086-decided-to-investigate-cost-of-metro-projects-information-minister
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/03/29/peshawar-metrobus-costkm-exceeds-lahore-and-islamabads/

I’m all for public transit, it’s a great way for low to middle income Pakistani’s to get around and seems to be more often used by women as a secure mode of transportation. It would help curb our oil/gas import bill and can spur economic activity allowing people to venture further for jobs.

However, this money would be better invested right now in the FBR to get their budget to where it needs to be in order to hire the personnel, buy the equipment and purchase the third party services required to collect the necessary tax revenues and prosecute tax fraud/cheats.

What’s the point of putting money into a transit system when its cheaper to simply rely on existing rickshaws and mini busses to do the same thing?

What it seems like to me is that each government comes in with grand promises offering some kind of modern luxury to the people only to mire them in more debt because they didn't think anything out well.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."
- Alexander Fraser Tytler

4. Gawadar Port we have leased for 49 Years on BOT basis and have share in revenue (REVENUE not Profit/Loss) - So, it's Chinese who have to worry about increasing traffic at port to recover their investments, Airport is built and being upgraded with grant not loan.

What it seems like to me is politicians have confused the reason for Gwadar with CPEC and this is resulting in confusion and anger as BS promises fall apart and are exposed.

The revenue share that goes to Pakistan is only 9% while the bulk, 91% of revenues, goes to the China Port Authority. Now I get it, they put up the bulk of the money and I agree that all revenue should go to pay off the loan and interest but if CPEC transit trade was the goal was this port even necessary to build at this time?

According to the Karachi Port Authority the Karachi Port has a berth occupancy rate of 45% so why was there a rush to build Gwadar Port when Karachi Port is considered underutilized?
http://kpt.gov.pk/pages/Default.aspx?id=43

Why not first focus on refurbishing Pakistan’s current rail network and expanding it as far north as economically feasible while expanding the Khunerjab Pass with a focus of transiting goods through Karachi Port first and only once you reach a berth occupancy rate close to 70% then build Gwadar Port?

I honestly don’t think anyone cares whether Gwadar is profitable right now especially not China.

My view is that Pakistan needed a second deep sea port in case Karachi Port is attacked (ex. Missile attack, naval blockade, etc...) while the Chinese wanted a port away from Pakistan’s major cities likely to refuel submarines, aircraft carriers and maybe even build a joint military base.

Remember China is believed to be spending $5 Billion USD just to fortify each of their man made islands in the South China sea and who knows how much they’ve spent to build them while the Djibouti Naval Base was built for about $950 Million. Gwadar is a great investment in that regard particularly since Pakistan’s population will increase by another 90 Million by 2050 so the port can have a dual purpose and will be used if nothing else but for domestic needs.

I'm fine with that, have no qualms with a joint military base at Gwadar and see the need for a second deep sea port as essential for Pakistan.

However my beef is why is the government, the military even members of the opposition particularly when they were in power were all making BS statements and promises regarding transit trade when it’s obvious if anyone looks at this rationally that’s not happening at least not on any meaningful scale.

keep in mind that times when China came forward to give us funds the whole world was projecting collapse of Pakistan and TTP getting hold of our nukes. We can also debate that projects were given to Chinese companies without competition, corruption of Pakistani officials in these Projects. But till now, all the projects executed are for domestic needs, and it's up to us how we make most out of Chinese need of linking their western region to Arabian sea or gulf of Oman.

I've been making this clear for years Pakistan's woes are related to poor policy decisions since the 90s.

Until we reimpose tariffs, eliminate FTA's, kill uneconomical/predatory CPEC projects, properly fund the FBR to do its job, invest in customs and use tax revenues to invest in our industries the situation will only worsen.

CPEC isn't the Chinese government "investing" in Pakistan it's private companies that are signing these deals and bad deals are worse than worthless particularly when they worsen our balance of payment crisis. Hemorrhaging foreign exchange is literally forcing the SBP to raise interest rates that's killing our domestic economy because it's made it impossible for our business and citizens to borrow money to start a business, expand businesses, or purchase homes that would have a far more meaningful impact on the economy.
 
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If you read my post you'd have seen that these power plants are earning exorbitant Return on Equity or in some cases charging ridiculously high tariffs like the levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh back in 2014 forget the fact that the rupee has devalued by 46% since then.

Here in North America (US/Canada) IPP's would earn about 10% ROE on the same projects Pakistan is signing deals which would net them 680% (ex. Port Qasim Coal Power Plant).

Does this sound like a good deal or smart planning?
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I have read your post, but you probably don't know how corruption is done.
 
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I think many people here do not realise the major thing about CPEC or why the Chinese even got interest and what Geo Political implication it has.

I am not sure if many members remember that CPEC was created back in late 90s when Gawadar port of announced and the objective of it was to allow China access to it as is the case. Than Sep 11 happened and USA came to the region (need i say connect the dots especially benefit of hindsight and importance of CPEC). Originally it was planned that GAS and OIL pipelines from GCC countries will come to Gawadar and many refineries were announced.

This all went to backburner when USA came to the region and who concept was put in cold storage and was most recently activated again once they knew USA's stay is over. Little do people know that uncle sam has other ideas ie recently escalation of matters with IRAN.

Yes CPEC will allow China to develop its western side of the country but there is major other benifit.

The main benifit and need for CPEC for China is energy route. Currently all Chinese energy is shipped and it has to cross Malacca Straight. This is China's chock point.

Now CPEC is getting more important as part of USA - China Trade War there is suggestion that if China makes a move on REM than USA will make a move to blockade the Malacca straight.

There was this suggestion of this occuring and now western media has these articles pop up in last few weeks.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/busines...ity-squeeze-us-conflict-takes-dangerous-turn/

https://thediplomat.com/2013/03/a-u-s-naval-blockade-of-china/ - 2013 article. there are quite a few of these.
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If the picture is now clear. Well USA coming to Afghanistan and Now threatening Iran is to maintain a chock point on China from this side and they can full choke China via Malacaa straight.

CPEC is in one way China's lifeline and it needs that for constant and secured Energy supply. It is a need for China to have alternative to Malacaa. But it seems USA also can see this and is making sure via Iran it has presence in the region.

Isnt it also odd that when ever usa needs something Iran is there to provide the perfect opportunity.
 
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CPEC & FTA: Deals built on Lies & Hurting Pakistan

I originally intended to write this back in 2014 after CPEC was first announced but lost my original copy around that time then I left PDF to focus on my career but have been so fed up with the lies told to Pakistani's I just had to come back and post.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, if you find fault feel free to let me know but my position is clear on FTA's and how CPEC is currently been implemented and I think time has already proven my case. I may write something more detailed for the FTA but thought I'd fit some points into this post anyways.

CPEC isn't entirely a bad idea, in fact it can be great for Pakistan but it seems to me a lot of what the public is fed is outright nonsense.

Transit Trade Profits

CPEC began on a lie, the lie that Chinese trade would transit through Pakistan.

Now this isn’t a complete lie but there are serious omissions of facts and completely exaggerated statements and numbers that have come out of the government particularly those of the PMLN. This was obvious to anyone that understood the distances and costs involved along with the location of China’s population and industries.

The first thing you need to realize is that 94% of China’s population and industries lie East of the Heihe Tengchong line:

the-heihe-tengchong-line-china-2.jpg



In fact 56% of China’s total GDP originates from 48 cities almost all of which are again located on, close to or east of the Heihe Tengchong line:

Metro-economic-country-growth-differential.jpg


As of right now probably the closest major industrial centre in China, Chengdu, lies about 6946 km by road from Gwadar.

What you always hear is how far it is to Kashgar but the city itself, in 2017, had a $12.5 Billion GDP with a GDP per capita comparable to Pakistan at $2729 whereas the more important cities like Chengdu which are much farther away have a GDP of $207.5 Billion USD with a per capita income of almost $13000 are the ones we should be talking about.

What Pakistani’s have never been explained is that different forms of freight incur different fees to move a ton of goods a particular distance. As per the US’ Bureau of Transportation Statics in 2004, the last year they updated figures for all forms of freight, transport by Truck cost 500% more than by Class I Rail which itself was about 30% more expensive than moving goods by sea.
https://www.bts.gov/content/average-freight-revenue-ton-mile

What this means is that even if transporting via Pakistan may be cheaper for a city like Kashgar it doesn’t mean that it’s cheaper for all Chinese cities particularly the wealthiest industrial hubs and population centres in China.

To highlight how utterly absurd this idea that Pakistan would be a transit hub for Chinese trade is you can view actual freight details for containers shipped out of any of the major Chinese industrial cities, like Chengdu, to any particular destination via www.searates.com and NONE of them have highlighted Pakistan’s CPEC route as their preferred course while others disregard Gwadar entirely for Karachi port. Even if we built direct rail links with China it still couldn’t compete going the sea route for virtually every major industrial hub and population centre in China.

Based on my calculations which took distance and BTS freight revenues into account CPEC as a transit route could only service 3 of the most sparsely populated and poorest provinces in China (Xingjiang, Tibet and Qinghai) who have a combined GDP about the same as Bangladesh which itself handled approximately 24 Million tons of cargo (2016-2017) or about 2.8 Million TEU’s via the Chittagong Port. If we were to charge the fee originally proposed by the Chairman of Bangladesh’s Tariff Commission, Mujibur Rahman, of about $13/tonne of Indian cargo and storage fees of $12/TEU assuming that’s what passes through Pakistan at most you’re looking at earning about $348 Million USD in transit and storage fees not these insane billion dollar figures politicians keep telling the public.
http://cpa.portal.gov.bd/sites/default/files/files/cpa.portal.gov.bd/page/ec61825e_0e1a_4655_882e_fdc7d4097738/Container Handling Statistics_CPA Bangla -- _1_.pdf
https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/transit-fee-too-low-1239754
https://www.joc.com/port-news/asian...s-raising-fee-stored-containers_20180416.html

When you include the costs of exporting of $474/TEU (includes documentary compliance and border compliance costs) as per World Bank numbers for Pakistsan with the tariff estimates I cited before in the best case Scenario Pakistan is generating about $1.7 Billion USD in economic activity and revenue (or about 0.005% of GDP). Assuming we build direct rail links to Kashgar (and everything we need to pickup from Xinjiang, Tibet and Qinghai is waiting for us there) that leads directly to Gwadar the distance along with US’ BTS latest 2017 estimates of freight costs via Class I Rail would result in an additional $100 Million USD (about .0003% of GDP) in revenue or lets say about $1.8 Billion USD in economic activity (about 0.006% of GDP).
http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data/exploretopics/trading-across-borders

This is nothing close to the ridiculous figures put out by the former government about generating $75 Billion USD from tolls on transit trade alone which gullible Pakistani’s were lead to believe and many still think is going to materialize.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/234547-CPEC-toll-income-to-be-thrice-the-budget-of-Pakistan-BoI

Here’s another problem, my rough estimates are assuming all of the exports/imports of that trade is travelling across Pakistan which won’t happen because a lot of it will travel East via rail within China and some via the Yiwu–London railway line or by truck to other Central Asian states. Furthermore, the 3 provinces I mentioned (Qinghai, XinJiang and Tibet) either don’t export much intended for foreign markets instead it’s meant for the domestic Chinese consumption (ex. Oil, ores, etc...) or produce goods in direct competition with Pakistani manufacturers (ex. Textiles).

It should be obvious to everyone now that the PMLN, PPP and even both the Military Generals and PTI themselves either seem to have no clue or have been lying to the Pakistani public about this imagined stimulus from transit trade through Pakistan hence why now 6 years after CPEC was established under the government lead by Nawaz Sharif and the PMLN no direct rail link connecting Pakistan and Kashgar exists nor have I seen any actual plans to build one rather all I hear about are stories of “feasibility studies” that were conducted none of which have ever been released to the public at least I can’t find even one.

The same promises made about CPEC were made under Military rule headed by Musharraf and PPP rule under Zardari about the FTA with China yet within 5 years of it being signed our trade deficit with China increased over 53% and none of the proposed benefits materialized in fact our top export is nothing more than non retail pure cotton yarn (View attachment):
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Furthermore, the issue isn’t with the interest rates on the loans taken out from Chinese banks instead it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) which is based on capacity not actual electricity produced/consumed so regardless of whether Pakistan needs the electricity or can even pay for it none of that matters because as long as those plants exist they get paid. From what I’ve read about these agreements it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) on these projects which is INSANE not the interest rates on the loans for them.

To understand how utterly ridiculous this all is look no further than the Port Qasim Coal Fired Power Plant which, as per agreements filed with NEPRA, was estimated to cost $2.3 Billion USD and the IPP borrowed $1.424 Billion USD then would pay back the principal along with $392.78 Million USD in interest to Chinese banks. However, what is most striking is the ROE (Return on Equity) on this project of about $5.963 Billion or 259% (680%) versus the average for power plants in the US and Canada being about 10%. Considering Sinohydro owns 51% stake in the power plant that amounts to about $3.04 Billion USD which alongside the $392.78 Million going back to the Chinese bank in interest payments would result in a total of $3.43 Billion in foreign exchange lost as the money is repatriated into Yuan.
https://nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs/00...ont Coal Determination 13-02-2015 1839-41.PDF

Then you have the insane agreements signed for solar and wind power projects.

The "State of Industry Report" for 2014 released by NEPRA itself stated the Pakistani government was offering a total levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh.
https://www.nepra.org.pk/Publications/State of Industry Reports/State of Industry Report 2014.pdf

A far poorer Pakistani public would be paying even more than the Germans for wind energy.

Solar isn’t much better with NEPRA having published the tariffs for the 100 MW Quaid-e-Azam Solar power project back in 2014 citing that the levelized tariff for the project would be 14.1516 US cents/KWh for the first 10 years.
http://www.nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs...tional Acceptance of Upfront Tariff Solar.pdf

Remember these are tariffs were negotiated when Pakistan had an exchange rate of about Rs 100/USD whereas the exchange rate now is RS. 141/USD (a 40% increase in 5 years) and they’re even projecting that exchange rates could climb all the way to Rs. 200/USD
https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/05/pakistan-economic-crisis-usd-200-pkr/

Mind you these are just 3 examples and there was, last I had checked, more than $35 Billion advertised which would be spent specifically on the power sector. At those returns and interest rates the power projects alone would net Chinese banks and businesses $52.5 Billion USD. Overall this $35 Billion in FDI will result in $90 Billion USD of repayments if you go by my previous projections.

Remember former Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar referred to these IPP’s as a “noose around our necks” yet we have and continue to sign new agreements with them:
https://www.geo.tv/latest/224559-agreements-with-ipps-are-a-noose-around-our-necks-cjp

If we don’t pay they simply go to the ICSID, which Pakistan is a signatory of, and they sue us there in fact IPP’s have already done this successfully.
https://www.iisd.org/itn/2018/10/17...sses-pakistans-counterclaim-amr-arafa-hasaan/

Others have also sued us with LICA (London International Court of Arbitration) successfully.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1367589

We need to come to the realization that this is by the very definition of the word debt and predatory/exploitative projects need to be cancelled. The economic policies pursued by both Military and Civilian governments since the 90s are destroying Pakistan and we MUST reverse course.

What’s even stupider about all this is that Pakistani businesses can’t even take out loans from Pakistani banks to build up their businesses, construct these power plants nor can average Pakistani’s take loans to purchase homes that would boost infrastructure development in the country because of high interest rates offered by local banks (we have loans offered at 15% interest rates for real estate purchases alone). This is because the SBP has to keep interest rates high in order to control inflation which itself results from the FTA to China as well as the neo liberal economic policies initially pushed by Musharraf, the PPP and PMLN that have seen a lack of investment in local industries and an implementation of an import substitution policy while there is a surge in imports.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1976840/2-monetary-policy-sbp-hikes-interest-rate-150bps-12-25/

What I literally warned about back on PDF as far back as 2010 post FTA with China and continued to echo well past 2013 after CPEC was introduced has been confirmed correct. I have always made it clear FTA’s are bad for Pakistan at this stage of development, Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity to support these types of agreements. Simply look at the Pakistan Business Council (PBC’s) own report from 2013 which confirms how little we’re capable of utilizing them in comparison to a more developed Chinese industry (View attachment):
View attachment 563260

In fact to highlight how utterly foolish Imran Khan and the PTI government are acting by signing FTA 2.0 the report itself stated 6 years ago:

Many believe that the product coverage of the FTA should be increased i.e. increasing the number of products part of the current FTA. Given the low utilization (5%), this would be an exercise in futility. A more appropriate measure would be to renegotiate the FTA in such a way that products that have high potential of exports as well as enjoy a comparative advantage against the rest of the world are given higher concessions”

Why is it everyone refuses to acknowledge that Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity at this point? This refusal is literally killing Pakistan.

Aside from a focus on domestic lignite as a source of power generation my view has always been we should have instead focused on pipelines to china to transport refined fuel and natural gas. If we could meet 50% of China’s oil import requirements, about 4 Million bbl/day, turning that oil into refined petroleum with a profit margin of about $10/bbl we would easily earn almost $15 Billion USD in profit per year from exports to China with the pipeline(s) costing about $40 Billion USD. Guess what one of if not our fastest growing export to China also happens to be refined petroleum (View Attachment):
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Mind you China’s oil and natural gas imports will grow dramatically over the coming years while the project can be further expanded to meet Japan’s needs as well all while circumventing India and the US’ abilities to blockade China during tensions while also bridging gaps between China and Japan. Meeting 100% of China’s natural gas imports with a tariff of $0.2/mmbtu would itself net Pakistan about $11 Billion USD/year at current consumption requirements but note that China’s oil/gas requirements will increase dramatically over the coming years.

Investments

The next big lie that’s been spread about CPEC is relatied to “investments” which in fact is debt taken out by Pakistan regardless of how government officials try to spin it

In total it’s projected about $35 Billion alone would be invested in the power sector going towards building power plants that largely run on imported coal and natural gas resulting in us hemorrhaging foreign exchange while limited money goes towards local Thar lignite.

How they attempt to fool the public is by stating that these power plants aren’t being constructed by the government instead by IPP’s which took out loans from Chinese banks so its not government debt. However, those loans don’t start until they break ground and that only happens after they’ve signed long term contracts with the government of Pakistan who would purchase the electricity produced at fixed rates (adjusted for inflation) while paying fee’s (i.e. ROE) based on capacity factor not actual electricity produced and consumed.

Actual Amount “Invested”

Another lie about CPEC is the total amount we would see in “investment”.

We are continually told different figures but the most popular one now is $62 Billion.

However, we need to take into account that this is to be invested over the course of 15 years maybe even longer now who even knows if the full amount would be invested in light of cancelled projects like the Gadani Power Project which was shelved back in 2015 as was a proposed coal fired power plant in Jehlum back in 2016, the Diamer-Bhasha dam in 2017 and the Rahim Yar Khan Coal power plant just this year 2019 which combined would have cost about $18 Billion USD.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1282883
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1211361/coal-based-projects-work-7000mw-power-plants-likely-abandoned/
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...an-pulls-plug-dam-deal-over-chinas-too-strict
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/pakistan-finally-shelves-coal-power-project-under-cpec/

You have cancellations of other projects outside of the power sector like the Quetta Mass Transit project while massive delays exist in the Karachi Circular Railway which is already 2 years behind schedule and no one can be entirely sure if it’ll even be built.
http://balochistanvoices.com/2017/1...and-water-supply-projects-dropped-in-7th-jcc/

Law & Order Issues

We’ve seen many cases of Chinese citizens in Pakistan violating our laws:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chi...r-harassing-them-at-cpec-project-site-1833792

We’ve got issues with Chinese peoples in Pakistan completely disrespecting our culture/traditions:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...an-slice-china-islamabad-170830081303813.html

Chinese firms evading taxes in Pakistan:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1710155/2-pakistan-catches-chinese-firm-evading-rs1-12b-taxes/

You have this cancer now exploiting our poor women many times it seems that girls are even being sold into prostitution or for their organs:
https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistani...tchmaking-draw-chinese-response-/4874646.html

This is exactly what I warned against years ago, Pakistan needs to limit Chinese travel in Pakistan solely to a few persons for major projects, education and religious tourism specifically for the Muslim community in China and nothing more.

I support oil pipelines through Pakistan to China and military ties between our countries but nothing more.

What do we need to do:

1. Cancel all FTA’s starting with our FTA to China focusing strictly on energy exports to China instead.

2. Cancel any CPEC project that is uneconomical or predatory/exploitative (ex. Like Port Qasim coal power plant where IPP’s are offered ridiculous ROE’s or solar and wind projects producing electricity at high tariffs). Solar can be a great source of energy for Pakistan but this needs to be produced domestically.

3. Raise import tariff rates back to where they were pre ‘99 coup (40-50% simple mean applied tariff on all products) though we should have no tariffs on the import of capital goods that aren’t produced domestically.

4. Dramatically increase funding for the FBR so they can hire the personnel, buy the equipment and purchase the third party services they require to investigate and prosecute tax thieves and enforce tax compliance. Based on my estimates the FBR is underfunded anywhere from 500-1400% and this has been going on for decades. This will also need to be coupled with dramatic increases in budgets for Pakistani customs.

5. Invest all additional tax revenue generated into our own industries, nothing else (not schools or hospitals), with a primary focus on import substitution starting with the primary sector (agriculture and mining), heavy machinery for the primary sector and low income housing.

Only after our industries have established themselves within Pakistan and can compete globally should our economy be opened up to foreign competition and challenging industries/companies in foreign markets.

I said this 8 years ago and warned that without doing this our economy was going to continue to tank.

The past and present government has reversed course on some CPEC projects they recognized as predatory, uneconomical and/or unsustainable but more needs to be done and instead of cancelling our FTA to China they’ve instead signed FTA 2.0 which is doomed to fail.

It’s time Pakistani’s realized what is happening to this country and stop fantasizing about quick fixes like Imran Khan and the PTI’s prayers for the Kekra 1 oil well which never should have been calculated into plans for development or this ridiculous notion of quickly retrieving who even knows how much illicit funds are stored in offshore bank accounts considering it takes years to prosecute these cases and most globally have met with little success.





How exactly is our land and culture going to handle millions of Chinese settlers coming in to disrupt ours after having completely lost their own...
 
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Alas you will be labelled a US stooge by the Chinese govt paid censorship bots on this forum.

Very concerns I've began having. In the beginning I was all for it but the things that are slowly coming to light paint a very ominous picture. The high interest rates and mortgaging of Pakistans prime national assets such as airports and highways are just a few horrific facts we know about.

China and Chinese the way they behave in such a bossy manner are begining to seem like North Koreans.
CPEC & FTA: Deals built on Lies & Hurting Pakistan

I originally intended to write this back in 2014 after CPEC was first announced but lost my original copy around that time then I left PDF to focus on my career but have been so fed up with the lies told to Pakistani's I just had to come back and post.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, if you find fault feel free to let me know but my position is clear on FTA's and how CPEC is currently been implemented and I think time has already proven my case. I may write something more detailed for the FTA but thought I'd fit some points into this post anyways.

CPEC isn't entirely a bad idea, in fact it can be great for Pakistan but it seems to me a lot of what the public is fed is outright nonsense.

Transit Trade Profits

CPEC began on a lie, the lie that Chinese trade would transit through Pakistan.

Now this isn’t a complete lie but there are serious omissions of facts and completely exaggerated statements and numbers that have come out of the government particularly those of the PMLN. This was obvious to anyone that understood the distances and costs involved along with the location of China’s population and industries.

The first thing you need to realize is that 94% of China’s population and industries lie East of the Heihe Tengchong line:

the-heihe-tengchong-line-china-2.jpg



In fact 56% of China’s total GDP originates from 48 cities almost all of which are again located on, close to or east of the Heihe Tengchong line:

Metro-economic-country-growth-differential.jpg


As of right now probably the closest major industrial centre in China, Chengdu, lies about 6946 km by road from Gwadar.

What you always hear is how far it is to Kashgar but the city itself, in 2017, had a $12.5 Billion GDP with a GDP per capita comparable to Pakistan at $2729 whereas the more important cities like Chengdu which are much farther away have a GDP of $207.5 Billion USD with a per capita income of almost $13000 are the ones we should be talking about.

What Pakistani’s have never been explained is that different forms of freight incur different fees to move a ton of goods a particular distance. As per the US’ Bureau of Transportation Statics in 2004, the last year they updated figures for all forms of freight, transport by Truck cost 500% more than by Class I Rail which itself was about 30% more expensive than moving goods by sea.
https://www.bts.gov/content/average-freight-revenue-ton-mile

What this means is that even if transporting via Pakistan may be cheaper for a city like Kashgar it doesn’t mean that it’s cheaper for all Chinese cities particularly the wealthiest industrial hubs and population centres in China.

To highlight how utterly absurd this idea that Pakistan would be a transit hub for Chinese trade is you can view actual freight details for containers shipped out of any of the major Chinese industrial cities, like Chengdu, to any particular destination via www.searates.com and NONE of them have highlighted Pakistan’s CPEC route as their preferred course while others disregard Gwadar entirely for Karachi port. Even if we built direct rail links with China it still couldn’t compete going the sea route for virtually every major industrial hub and population centre in China.

Based on my calculations which took distance and BTS freight revenues into account CPEC as a transit route could only service 3 of the most sparsely populated and poorest provinces in China (Xingjiang, Tibet and Qinghai) who have a combined GDP about the same as Bangladesh which itself handled approximately 24 Million tons of cargo (2016-2017) or about 2.8 Million TEU’s via the Chittagong Port. If we were to charge the fee originally proposed by the Chairman of Bangladesh’s Tariff Commission, Mujibur Rahman, of about $13/tonne of Indian cargo and storage fees of $12/TEU assuming that’s what passes through Pakistan at most you’re looking at earning about $348 Million USD in transit and storage fees not these insane billion dollar figures politicians keep telling the public.
http://cpa.portal.gov.bd/sites/default/files/files/cpa.portal.gov.bd/page/ec61825e_0e1a_4655_882e_fdc7d4097738/Container Handling Statistics_CPA Bangla -- _1_.pdf
https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/transit-fee-too-low-1239754
https://www.joc.com/port-news/asian...s-raising-fee-stored-containers_20180416.html

When you include the costs of exporting of $474/TEU (includes documentary compliance and border compliance costs) as per World Bank numbers for Pakistsan with the tariff estimates I cited before in the best case Scenario Pakistan is generating about $1.7 Billion USD in economic activity and revenue (or about 0.005% of GDP). Assuming we build direct rail links to Kashgar (and everything we need to pickup from Xinjiang, Tibet and Qinghai is waiting for us there) that leads directly to Gwadar the distance along with US’ BTS latest 2017 estimates of freight costs via Class I Rail would result in an additional $100 Million USD (about .0003% of GDP) in revenue or lets say about $1.8 Billion USD in economic activity (about 0.006% of GDP).
http://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data/exploretopics/trading-across-borders

This is nothing close to the ridiculous figures put out by the former government about generating $75 Billion USD from tolls on transit trade alone which gullible Pakistani’s were lead to believe and many still think is going to materialize.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/234547-CPEC-toll-income-to-be-thrice-the-budget-of-Pakistan-BoI

Here’s another problem, my rough estimates are assuming all of the exports/imports of that trade is travelling across Pakistan which won’t happen because a lot of it will travel East via rail within China and some via the Yiwu–London railway line or by truck to other Central Asian states. Furthermore, the 3 provinces I mentioned (Qinghai, XinJiang and Tibet) either don’t export much intended for foreign markets instead it’s meant for the domestic Chinese consumption (ex. Oil, ores, etc...) or produce goods in direct competition with Pakistani manufacturers (ex. Textiles).

It should be obvious to everyone now that the PMLN, PPP and even both the Military Generals and PTI themselves either seem to have no clue or have been lying to the Pakistani public about this imagined stimulus from transit trade through Pakistan hence why now 6 years after CPEC was established under the government lead by Nawaz Sharif and the PMLN no direct rail link connecting Pakistan and Kashgar exists nor have I seen any actual plans to build one rather all I hear about are stories of “feasibility studies” that were conducted none of which have ever been released to the public at least I can’t find even one.

The same promises made about CPEC were made under Military rule headed by Musharraf and PPP rule under Zardari about the FTA with China yet within 5 years of it being signed our trade deficit with China increased over 53% and none of the proposed benefits materialized in fact our top export is nothing more than non retail pure cotton yarn (View attachment):
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Furthermore, the issue isn’t with the interest rates on the loans taken out from Chinese banks instead it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) which is based on capacity not actual electricity produced/consumed so regardless of whether Pakistan needs the electricity or can even pay for it none of that matters because as long as those plants exist they get paid. From what I’ve read about these agreements it’s the ROE (Return on Equity) on these projects which is INSANE not the interest rates on the loans for them.

To understand how utterly ridiculous this all is look no further than the Port Qasim Coal Fired Power Plant which, as per agreements filed with NEPRA, was estimated to cost $2.3 Billion USD and the IPP borrowed $1.424 Billion USD then would pay back the principal along with $392.78 Million USD in interest to Chinese banks. However, what is most striking is the ROE (Return on Equity) on this project of about $5.963 Billion or 259% (680%) versus the average for power plants in the US and Canada being about 10%. Considering Sinohydro owns 51% stake in the power plant that amounts to about $3.04 Billion USD which alongside the $392.78 Million going back to the Chinese bank in interest payments would result in a total of $3.43 Billion in foreign exchange lost as the money is repatriated into Yuan.
https://nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs/00...ont Coal Determination 13-02-2015 1839-41.PDF

Then you have the insane agreements signed for solar and wind power projects.

The "State of Industry Report" for 2014 released by NEPRA itself stated the Pakistani government was offering a total levelized costs for wind energy of 16.3063 (South Region) to 17.006 (North Region) US cents/KWh.
https://www.nepra.org.pk/Publications/State of Industry Reports/State of Industry Report 2014.pdf

A far poorer Pakistani public would be paying even more than the Germans for wind energy.

Solar isn’t much better with NEPRA having published the tariffs for the 100 MW Quaid-e-Azam Solar power project back in 2014 citing that the levelized tariff for the project would be 14.1516 US cents/KWh for the first 10 years.
http://www.nepra.org.pk/Tariff/IPPs...tional Acceptance of Upfront Tariff Solar.pdf

Remember these are tariffs were negotiated when Pakistan had an exchange rate of about Rs 100/USD whereas the exchange rate now is RS. 141/USD (a 40% increase in 5 years) and they’re even projecting that exchange rates could climb all the way to Rs. 200/USD
https://www.valuewalk.com/2019/05/pakistan-economic-crisis-usd-200-pkr/

Mind you these are just 3 examples and there was, last I had checked, more than $35 Billion advertised which would be spent specifically on the power sector. At those returns and interest rates the power projects alone would net Chinese banks and businesses $52.5 Billion USD. Overall this $35 Billion in FDI will result in $90 Billion USD of repayments if you go by my previous projections.

Remember former Chief Justice of Pakistan Mian Saqib Nisar referred to these IPP’s as a “noose around our necks” yet we have and continue to sign new agreements with them:
https://www.geo.tv/latest/224559-agreements-with-ipps-are-a-noose-around-our-necks-cjp

If we don’t pay they simply go to the ICSID, which Pakistan is a signatory of, and they sue us there in fact IPP’s have already done this successfully.
https://www.iisd.org/itn/2018/10/17...sses-pakistans-counterclaim-amr-arafa-hasaan/

Others have also sued us with LICA (London International Court of Arbitration) successfully.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1367589

We need to come to the realization that this is by the very definition of the word debt and predatory/exploitative projects need to be cancelled. The economic policies pursued by both Military and Civilian governments since the 90s are destroying Pakistan and we MUST reverse course.

What’s even stupider about all this is that Pakistani businesses can’t even take out loans from Pakistani banks to build up their businesses, construct these power plants nor can average Pakistani’s take loans to purchase homes that would boost infrastructure development in the country because of high interest rates offered by local banks (we have loans offered at 15% interest rates for real estate purchases alone). This is because the SBP has to keep interest rates high in order to control inflation which itself results from the FTA to China as well as the neo liberal economic policies initially pushed by Musharraf, the PPP and PMLN that have seen a lack of investment in local industries and an implementation of an import substitution policy while there is a surge in imports.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1976840/2-monetary-policy-sbp-hikes-interest-rate-150bps-12-25/

What I literally warned about back on PDF as far back as 2010 post FTA with China and continued to echo well past 2013 after CPEC was introduced has been confirmed correct. I have always made it clear FTA’s are bad for Pakistan at this stage of development, Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity to support these types of agreements. Simply look at the Pakistan Business Council (PBC’s) own report from 2013 which confirms how little we’re capable of utilizing them in comparison to a more developed Chinese industry (View attachment):
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In fact to highlight how utterly foolish Imran Khan and the PTI government are acting by signing FTA 2.0 the report itself stated 6 years ago:

Many believe that the product coverage of the FTA should be increased i.e. increasing the number of products part of the current FTA. Given the low utilization (5%), this would be an exercise in futility. A more appropriate measure would be to renegotiate the FTA in such a way that products that have high potential of exports as well as enjoy a comparative advantage against the rest of the world are given higher concessions”

Why is it everyone refuses to acknowledge that Pakistan simply does not have the industrial capacity at this point? This refusal is literally killing Pakistan.

Aside from a focus on domestic lignite as a source of power generation my view has always been we should have instead focused on pipelines to china to transport refined fuel and natural gas. If we could meet 50% of China’s oil import requirements, about 4 Million bbl/day, turning that oil into refined petroleum with a profit margin of about $10/bbl we would easily earn almost $15 Billion USD in profit per year from exports to China with the pipeline(s) costing about $40 Billion USD. Guess what one of if not our fastest growing export to China also happens to be refined petroleum (View Attachment):
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Mind you China’s oil and natural gas imports will grow dramatically over the coming years while the project can be further expanded to meet Japan’s needs as well all while circumventing India and the US’ abilities to blockade China during tensions while also bridging gaps between China and Japan. Meeting 100% of China’s natural gas imports with a tariff of $0.2/mmbtu would itself net Pakistan about $11 Billion USD/year at current consumption requirements but note that China’s oil/gas requirements will increase dramatically over the coming years.

Investments

The next big lie that’s been spread about CPEC is relatied to “investments” which in fact is debt taken out by Pakistan regardless of how government officials try to spin it

In total it’s projected about $35 Billion alone would be invested in the power sector going towards building power plants that largely run on imported coal and natural gas resulting in us hemorrhaging foreign exchange while limited money goes towards local Thar lignite.

How they attempt to fool the public is by stating that these power plants aren’t being constructed by the government instead by IPP’s which took out loans from Chinese banks so its not government debt. However, those loans don’t start until they break ground and that only happens after they’ve signed long term contracts with the government of Pakistan who would purchase the electricity produced at fixed rates (adjusted for inflation) while paying fee’s (i.e. ROE) based on capacity factor not actual electricity produced and consumed.

Actual Amount “Invested”

Another lie about CPEC is the total amount we would see in “investment”.

We are continually told different figures but the most popular one now is $62 Billion.

However, we need to take into account that this is to be invested over the course of 15 years maybe even longer now who even knows if the full amount would be invested in light of cancelled projects like the Gadani Power Project which was shelved back in 2015 as was a proposed coal fired power plant in Jehlum back in 2016, the Diamer-Bhasha dam in 2017 and the Rahim Yar Khan Coal power plant just this year 2019 which combined would have cost about $18 Billion USD.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1282883
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1211361/coal-based-projects-work-7000mw-power-plants-likely-abandoned/
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...an-pulls-plug-dam-deal-over-chinas-too-strict
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/pakistan-finally-shelves-coal-power-project-under-cpec/

You have cancellations of other projects outside of the power sector like the Quetta Mass Transit project while massive delays exist in the Karachi Circular Railway which is already 2 years behind schedule and no one can be entirely sure if it’ll even be built.
http://balochistanvoices.com/2017/1...and-water-supply-projects-dropped-in-7th-jcc/

Law & Order Issues

We’ve seen many cases of Chinese citizens in Pakistan violating our laws:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/chi...r-harassing-them-at-cpec-project-site-1833792

We’ve got issues with Chinese peoples in Pakistan completely disrespecting our culture/traditions:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...an-slice-china-islamabad-170830081303813.html

Chinese firms evading taxes in Pakistan:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1710155/2-pakistan-catches-chinese-firm-evading-rs1-12b-taxes/

You have this cancer now exploiting our poor women many times it seems that girls are even being sold into prostitution or for their organs:
https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistani...tchmaking-draw-chinese-response-/4874646.html

This is exactly what I warned against years ago, Pakistan needs to limit Chinese travel in Pakistan solely to a few persons for major projects, education and religious tourism specifically for the Muslim community in China and nothing more.

I support oil pipelines through Pakistan to China and military ties between our countries but nothing more.

What do we need to do:

1. Cancel all FTA’s starting with our FTA to China focusing strictly on energy exports to China instead.

2. Cancel any CPEC project that is uneconomical or predatory/exploitative (ex. Like Port Qasim coal power plant where IPP’s are offered ridiculous ROE’s or solar and wind projects producing electricity at high tariffs). Solar can be a great source of energy for Pakistan but this needs to be produced domestically.

3. Raise import tariff rates back to where they were pre ‘99 coup (40-50% simple mean applied tariff on all products) though we should have no tariffs on the import of capital goods that aren’t produced domestically.

4. Dramatically increase funding for the FBR so they can hire the personnel, buy the equipment and purchase the third party services they require to investigate and prosecute tax thieves and enforce tax compliance. Based on my estimates the FBR is underfunded anywhere from 500-1400% and this has been going on for decades. This will also need to be coupled with dramatic increases in budgets for Pakistani customs.

5. Invest all additional tax revenue generated into our own industries, nothing else (not schools or hospitals), with a primary focus on import substitution starting with the primary sector (agriculture and mining), heavy machinery for the primary sector and low income housing.

Only after our industries have established themselves within Pakistan and can compete globally should our economy be opened up to foreign competition and challenging industries/companies in foreign markets.

I said this 8 years ago and warned that without doing this our economy was going to continue to tank.

The past and present government has reversed course on some CPEC projects they recognized as predatory, uneconomical and/or unsustainable but more needs to be done and instead of cancelling our FTA to China they’ve instead signed FTA 2.0 which is doomed to fail.

It’s time Pakistani’s realized what is happening to this country and stop fantasizing about quick fixes like Imran Khan and the PTI’s prayers for the Kekra 1 oil well which never should have been calculated into plans for development or this ridiculous notion of quickly retrieving who even knows how much illicit funds are stored in offshore bank accounts considering it takes years to prosecute these cases and most globally have met with little success.
 
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Alas you will be labelled a US stooge by the Chinese govt paid censorship bots on this forum.

Very concerns I've began having. In the beginning I was all for it but the things that are slowly coming to light paint a very ominous picture. The high interest rates and mortgaging of Pakistans prime national assets such as airports and highways are just a few horrific facts we know about.

China and Chinese the way they behave in such a bossy manner are begining to seem like North Koreans.

simplest solution to these issues is to sign transparent contracts. now that is a new thing for a lot of pakistanis
 
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OK, I knew there must have been some mistakes in what I've written and I think I found a major mistake but even with that this all seems way too far off.

To understand how utterly ridiculous this all is look no further than the Port Qasim Coal Fired Power Plant which, as per agreements filed with NEPRA, was estimated to cost $2.3 Billion USD and the IPP borrowed $1.424 Billion USD then would pay back the principal along with $392.78 Million USD in interest to Chinese banks. However, what is most striking is the ROE (Return on Equity) on this project of about $5.963 Billion or 259% (680%) versus the average for power plants in the US and Canada being about 10%. Considering Sinohydro owns 51% stake in the power plant that amounts to about $3.04 Billion USD which alongside the $392.78 Million going back to the Chinese bank in interest payments would result in a total of $3.43 Billion in foreign exchange lost as the money is repatriated into Yuan.

I'm basing ROE on overall Capacity which from what I've read isn't correct at best it should be based on the capacity factor which for this plant was estimated at 42.03%

This means that the ROE should probably be about $2.5 Billion USD but even then with that amount of equity put in is still high at about 286% though not 680%. However, this is still well over what IPP's get in North America which is about 10%.

However, I still think there's something wrong with my calculations regarding this even the original agreement cites an ROE less than 24.5% for this deal (Port Qasim Coal Power Plant) and likely for other similar deals which if true, I would be fine with.

I'm pretty sure I've made some serious errors when discussing the power projects particularly the coal fired power plants when the agreements speak of a total levelized cost of energy at 8.3601 US Cents/KWh (though back in 2014 and since then the rupee has depreciated by 46% since then) over the 30 years of operational life which is perfectly fine.

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I believe I need to delete this thread and re do it after some more extensive research on the power plant deals because there is no way I was initially correct since what I stated regarding ROE's for the coal fired power plants is completely insane.

I still stand with the rest especially relating to the idea that we're going to make billions from transit trade outside of oil/gas pipelines which I still think should be the main focus.

I want to give accurate information regarding this so I'd ask everyone do their own research on this and don't just take my word for it. I
 
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It is rare to see such a well researched article on PDF, sir. And even rarer for an OP to admit that there may be flaws or gaps in the article and that further refinement may be required. Your heart is in the right place, sir. No need to delete this. You may come up with your revised calculations later.

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