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Even though we have idiotic Indians commenting here I feel for the poor men and women suffering. I don't wish this upon our enemies even though I remember Indians here taunting us re vaccines
 
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Modi is reluctant to impose full lockdown. The Indian economy is already in a terrible shape. A full lockdown is going to ruin it furthermore.

If India don’t impose lockdown, India is finished.
If India does impose lockdown, India is finished.

End game scenario for India.
 
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Right decision!! If other countries are banning Pakistan for not doing enough testing and cases around 5000-6000;

As per the present situation in India, it is a correct decision.
 
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Democracy in action. They brought this on themselves.

Care to elaborate. This is an interesting take
Personal liberty and freedom are more important. Every Indian has their right to mass gather or spray virus or not wear mask. It is within their right. Individual thoughts are more important than anything. Obey Law are BS and just evil to trap their expression. :enjoy:
 
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Modi has done too much too soon in his bid to pitch India as a rival to China

Tom Fowdy
Tom Fowdy is a British writer and analyst of politics and international relations with a primary focus on East Asia.

With Covid-19 causing a domestic crisis, PM Narendra Modi has had to rein in plans to position India as an alternative to China for vaccine production. The brutal truth is that New Delhi is not yet ready to compete with Beijing.

India is suffering a catastrophic second wave of Covid-19. With the number of new cases averaging nearly 250,000 a day over the past week, the country’s healthcare system has been pushed to the brink and deaths are on the rise, forcing several cities and states to go into lockdown.

Modi’s disease diplomacy shows India’s growing soft power, as he shapes global coalition against coronavirus
Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sought to avoid another national shutdown, but is under pressure, having been accused of complacency in his handling of the outbreak, even mistakenly assuming the country already had herd immunity. In the space of a month, India has transformed from an exporter to importer of vaccines as it scrambles to inoculate its enormous population.

But while the scale of human tragedy is high, the geopolitical stakes are too – and the two factors are interconnected. Modi has essentially done too much too soon by attempting to pitch India as an international peer competitor to China, tilting toward the West, and dramatically overselling his country’s capabilities in both supply chains and vaccines. The result has been a disaster at home which has forced an unavoidable retreat inward, reminding the world that whilst India has enormous potential, it has a long way to go.

Modi is a Trumpian guru. A Hindu nationalist, his political ethos has been pinned on attempting to dramatically transform India’s fortunes through protectionism and depicting China as responsible for the country’s economic woes and lack of development.

It’s low hanging fruit; the two countries are of similar population sizes and potential, yet have enjoyed very different fortunes for the past 40 years. From a relatively similar starting point, China’s GDP is now five times that of India’s. This has led Modi’s government to promote manufacturing in India as an alternative to China in supply chains. It is obvious some countries themselves shared this strategic idea; why else was UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson so determined to visit?

This thinking has extended toward vaccines too. India has extensive capacity to produce vaccines, and it teamed up with its partners in the Quad – the United States, Japan and Australia – to set a goal that its production would beat back China’s so-called ‘vaccine diplomacy’.

A month ago, the group announced a deal to provide one billion doses to South-East Asia by 2022, all produced in India. New Delhi itself was also making voluntary vaccine donations around the world, too, especially to countries in its periphery. Again, this was primarily motivated by anti-China geopolitics.

However, this obsession with competing with China at all costs has come at the expense of India’s own population. While Beijing has been able to export vaccines primarily because it has Covid-19 under control at home, New Delhi has appeared to take the domestic situation for granted, and has limited economic capacity to engage in strict lockdowns due to the country’s more fragile food situation.

Combined with the country’s heavy population density, this has produced a second wave that has been described as a tsunami, as well as a potentially dangerous new variant.

And so India’s Quad deal and China pushback has been all but scuppered before it even truly got under way. The situation has forced India to block exports, and “take a step back from the world” as well as import vaccines such as Russia’s Sputnik.

The scale of the crisis and growing criticism at home likely mean that India will now prioritize vaccinating its own population first, which will be a mammoth job. And there will be political repercussions, too. New Delhi will perhaps not be seen as the effective alternative to China that Modi has pitched it to be, which in the short term may be a setback in the ongoing efforts to try to contain Beijing’s influence in the surrounding region.
Read more

And so, for many countries in South and South-East Asia, the situation ultimately confirms that China remains the only real viable vaccine option, whether they like it or not. As much as the West rails against China’s political system, Beijing’s ability to control Covid and successfully export vaccines means it remains the best bet.

Modi has undoubtedly made promises to the West he has struggled to keep, and overlooked the obvious disparities in the level of development and economic situation between his country and China.

India has great potential; it was one of the world’s largest economies in the pre-modern world, and it could very much become so again. But the desire to compete with China is also premised on the thinking it is a ‘civilization state’ with a grand historical, philosophical and cultural portfolio dating back millennia.

It is fair to ask, though, if it is really serving India’s best interests to join the West’s anti-China game. And is beating China abroad key to making progress at home? To say the least this has been a painful lesson for Modi to learn, and for the time being it’s back to the drawing board.
 
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Lmao.. captain obvious report... In truth India can't compete with Bangladesh which has left them behind..

c74ac9b8-5403-4c48-91db-32818d73950e_800.gif
 
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rt.com

Modi has done too much too soon in his bid to pitch India as a rival to China

Tom Fowdy
Tom Fowdy is a British writer and analyst of politics and international relations with a primary focus on East Asia.

With Covid-19 causing a domestic crisis, PM Narendra Modi has had to rein in plans to position India as an alternative to China for vaccine production. The brutal truth is that New Delhi is not yet ready to compete with Beijing.

India is suffering a catastrophic second wave of Covid-19. With the number of new cases averaging nearly 250,000 a day over the past week, the country’s healthcare system has been pushed to the brink and deaths are on the rise, forcing several cities and states to go into lockdown.

Modi’s disease diplomacy shows India’s growing soft power, as he shapes global coalition against coronavirus
Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sought to avoid another national shutdown, but is under pressure, having been accused of complacency in his handling of the outbreak, even mistakenly assuming the country already had herd immunity. In the space of a month, India has transformed from an exporter to importer of vaccines as it scrambles to inoculate its enormous population.

But while the scale of human tragedy is high, the geopolitical stakes are too – and the two factors are interconnected. Modi has essentially done too much too soon by attempting to pitch India as an international peer competitor to China, tilting toward the West, and dramatically overselling his country’s capabilities in both supply chains and vaccines. The result has been a disaster at home which has forced an unavoidable retreat inward, reminding the world that whilst India has enormous potential, it has a long way to go.

Modi is a Trumpian guru. A Hindu nationalist, his political ethos has been pinned on attempting to dramatically transform India’s fortunes through protectionism and depicting China as responsible for the country’s economic woes and lack of development.

It’s low hanging fruit; the two countries are of similar population sizes and potential, yet have enjoyed very different fortunes for the past 40 years. From a relatively similar starting point, China’s GDP is now five times that of India’s. This has led Modi’s government to promote manufacturing in India as an alternative to China in supply chains. It is obvious some countries themselves shared this strategic idea; why else was UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson so determined to visit?

This thinking has extended toward vaccines too. India has extensive capacity to produce vaccines, and it teamed up with its partners in the Quad – the United States, Japan and Australia – to set a goal that its production would beat back China’s so-called ‘vaccine diplomacy’.

A month ago, the group announced a deal to provide one billion doses to South-East Asia by 2022, all produced in India. New Delhi itself was also making voluntary vaccine donations around the world, too, especially to countries in its periphery. Again, this was primarily motivated by anti-China geopolitics.

However, this obsession with competing with China at all costs has come at the expense of India’s own population. While Beijing has been able to export vaccines primarily because it has Covid-19 under control at home, New Delhi has appeared to take the domestic situation for granted, and has limited economic capacity to engage in strict lockdowns due to the country’s more fragile food situation.

Combined with the country’s heavy population density, this has produced a second wave that has been described as a tsunami, as well as a potentially dangerous new variant.

And so India’s Quad deal and China pushback has been all but scuppered before it even truly got under way. The situation has forced India to block exports, and “take a step back from the world” as well as import vaccines such as Russia’s Sputnik.

The scale of the crisis and growing criticism at home likely mean that India will now prioritize vaccinating its own population first, which will be a mammoth job. And there will be political repercussions, too. New Delhi will perhaps not be seen as the effective alternative to China that Modi has pitched it to be, which in the short term may be a setback in the ongoing efforts to try to contain Beijing’s influence in the surrounding region.
Read more

And so, for many countries in South and South-East Asia, the situation ultimately confirms that China remains the only real viable vaccine option, whether they like it or not. As much as the West rails against China’s political system, Beijing’s ability to control Covid and successfully export vaccines means it remains the best bet.

Modi has undoubtedly made promises to the West he has struggled to keep, and overlooked the obvious disparities in the level of development and economic situation between his country and China.

India has great potential; it was one of the world’s largest economies in the pre-modern world, and it could very much become so again. But the desire to compete with China is also premised on the thinking it is a ‘civilization state’ with a grand historical, philosophical and cultural portfolio dating back millennia.

It is fair to ask, though, if it is really serving India’s best interests to join the West’s anti-China game. And is beating China abroad key to making progress at home? To say the least this has been a painful lesson for Modi to learn, and for the time being it’s back to the drawing board.
What an unbiased narrative, will they call Joe Biden a Christian Nationalist? China is our adversary and what else does he expect from India to do? India will do what benefits India.

And this is BS by leftists that there is a vaccine shortage, Government has clearly stated that don’t believe such rumours but then they are brits.
Lmao.. captain obvious report... In truth it can't compete with Bangladesh which has left it behind..

c74ac9b8-5403-4c48-91db-32818d73950e_800.gif
It’s size and population are both different.
 
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Personal liberty and freedom are more important. Every Indian has their right to mass gather or spray virus or not wear mask. It is within their right. Individual thoughts are more important than anything. Obey Law are BS and just evil to trap their expression. :enjoy:

Now that makes sense. No self-isolation and to much mixing with masks
 
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What an unbiased narrative, will they call Joe Biden a Christian Nationalist? China is our adversary and what else does he expect from India to do? India will do what benefits India.

And this is BS by leftists that there is a vaccine shortage, Government has clearly stated that don’t believe such rumours but then they are brits.

It’s size and population are both different.

Lets be frank here Bangladesh is going up much faster then India and it has already surpassed India but in the next 20-30 years the cap will be significiant. Bangladesh will be 1st world and India still 3rd world. India has hit it's maximum peak it can't climb up further the ladder it is an eternal 3rd world. It carries to much package unlike Bangladesh
 
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rt.com

Modi has done too much too soon in his bid to pitch India as a rival to China

Tom Fowdy
Tom Fowdy is a British writer and analyst of politics and international relations with a primary focus on East Asia.

With Covid-19 causing a domestic crisis, PM Narendra Modi has had to rein in plans to position India as an alternative to China for vaccine production. The brutal truth is that New Delhi is not yet ready to compete with Beijing.

India is suffering a catastrophic second wave of Covid-19. With the number of new cases averaging nearly 250,000 a day over the past week, the country’s healthcare system has been pushed to the brink and deaths are on the rise, forcing several cities and states to go into lockdown.

Modi’s disease diplomacy shows India’s growing soft power, as he shapes global coalition against coronavirus
Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sought to avoid another national shutdown, but is under pressure, having been accused of complacency in his handling of the outbreak, even mistakenly assuming the country already had herd immunity. In the space of a month, India has transformed from an exporter to importer of vaccines as it scrambles to inoculate its enormous population.

But while the scale of human tragedy is high, the geopolitical stakes are too – and the two factors are interconnected. Modi has essentially done too much too soon by attempting to pitch India as an international peer competitor to China, tilting toward the West, and dramatically overselling his country’s capabilities in both supply chains and vaccines. The result has been a disaster at home which has forced an unavoidable retreat inward, reminding the world that whilst India has enormous potential, it has a long way to go.

Modi is a Trumpian guru. A Hindu nationalist, his political ethos has been pinned on attempting to dramatically transform India’s fortunes through protectionism and depicting China as responsible for the country’s economic woes and lack of development.

It’s low hanging fruit; the two countries are of similar population sizes and potential, yet have enjoyed very different fortunes for the past 40 years. From a relatively similar starting point, China’s GDP is now five times that of India’s. This has led Modi’s government to promote manufacturing in India as an alternative to China in supply chains. It is obvious some countries themselves shared this strategic idea; why else was UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson so determined to visit?

This thinking has extended toward vaccines too. India has extensive capacity to produce vaccines, and it teamed up with its partners in the Quad – the United States, Japan and Australia – to set a goal that its production would beat back China’s so-called ‘vaccine diplomacy’.

A month ago, the group announced a deal to provide one billion doses to South-East Asia by 2022, all produced in India. New Delhi itself was also making voluntary vaccine donations around the world, too, especially to countries in its periphery. Again, this was primarily motivated by anti-China geopolitics.

However, this obsession with competing with China at all costs has come at the expense of India’s own population. While Beijing has been able to export vaccines primarily because it has Covid-19 under control at home, New Delhi has appeared to take the domestic situation for granted, and has limited economic capacity to engage in strict lockdowns due to the country’s more fragile food situation.

Combined with the country’s heavy population density, this has produced a second wave that has been described as a tsunami, as well as a potentially dangerous new variant.

And so India’s Quad deal and China pushback has been all but scuppered before it even truly got under way. The situation has forced India to block exports, and “take a step back from the world” as well as import vaccines such as Russia’s Sputnik.

The scale of the crisis and growing criticism at home likely mean that India will now prioritize vaccinating its own population first, which will be a mammoth job. And there will be political repercussions, too. New Delhi will perhaps not be seen as the effective alternative to China that Modi has pitched it to be, which in the short term may be a setback in the ongoing efforts to try to contain Beijing’s influence in the surrounding region.
Read more

And so, for many countries in South and South-East Asia, the situation ultimately confirms that China remains the only real viable vaccine option, whether they like it or not. As much as the West rails against China’s political system, Beijing’s ability to control Covid and successfully export vaccines means it remains the best bet.

Modi has undoubtedly made promises to the West he has struggled to keep, and overlooked the obvious disparities in the level of development and economic situation between his country and China.

India has great potential; it was one of the world’s largest economies in the pre-modern world, and it could very much become so again. But the desire to compete with China is also premised on the thinking it is a ‘civilization state’ with a grand historical, philosophical and cultural portfolio dating back millennia.

It is fair to ask, though, if it is really serving India’s best interests to join the West’s anti-China game. And is beating China abroad key to making progress at home? To say the least this has been a painful lesson for Modi to learn, and for the time being it’s back to the drawing board.
Indian haven't learn how to walk properly and they already think they can run.
 
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Indian haven't learn how to walk properly and they already think they can run.

Nobody has really bought into India not even their own disinformation labs.. They invent some ridiculous surveys but it has now stopped since last year it seems like they realized this ain't happening anytime soon.

It's like thinking you are in a 7 star hotel located in the skies but then minutes later you wake up in the garbage on the sidewalk and realize you were only dreaminng
 
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