Cousin marriages (we need to talk about this)

[EpiiC]

People in India who marry their cousin typically do it over generations, as the tests done in India have yielded more negative effects than with other countries such as Pakistan despite other countries like Pakistan having higher rates. So yes in India people do it over generations. Also, it's not rare in India it's fairly common as my first post shows.

Baroness Flather, a former barrister who was born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, said: "Never mind the parents — it is not fair to the children that they should be allowed to become disabled because of a social practice. It is a social practice which does not belong in today’s age, when we know so much about DNA. There should at least be some rule which says that you must have a DNA examination before your marriage can be registered."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html

 

[Hamza913]

Mashallah 114 nice!!! If everyone or the average people in Pak had 114 IQ Pak would be a super power today!!

It's nothing to ride home about lol, it's just slightly higher than most people. So I'm just slightly smarter than most people, but I wouldn't say my grades reflect that (I get A's but rarely A*'s).

Although compared to the average Pakistani I'm an Einstein, our average is a pitiful 84.

 

[SOHEIL]

It causes genetical problems ...

So ... No !

 

[EpiiC]

It's nothing to ride home about lol, it's just slightly higher than most people. So I'm just slightly smarter than most people, but I wouldn't say my grades reflect that (I get A's but rarely A*'s).

Although compared to the average Pakistani I'm an Einstein, our average is a pitiful 84.

Right, 84 is due to 70% inbreeding, this practice must stop in the Islamic World.

It's nothing to ride home about lol, it's just slightly higher than most people. So I'm just slightly smarter than most people, but I wouldn't say my grades reflect that (I get A's but rarely A*'s).

Although compared to the average Pakistani I'm an Einstein, our average is a pitiful 84.

You mentioned 84 average IQ, also did you know Homosexuality is also rampant.... these sickening things must stop.....

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Natural selection at work?

Yes, in the wrong direction.

 

[ZenBird]

Becasue we are Muslims and it is clearly defined in Quran , cousins don't fall in this category
Other religions can do whatever they want. Not responsible to dictate what others do not my concern


Sura Al Niasa, ayat #23

حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُمْ وَعَمَّاتُكُمْ وَخَالَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُ الْأَخِ وَبَنَاتُ الْأُخْتِ وَأُمَّهَاتُكُمُ اللَّاتِي أَرْضَعْنَكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُم مِّنَ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَأُمَّهَاتُ نِسَائِكُمْ وَرَبَائِبُكُمُ اللَّاتِي فِي
حُجُورِكُم مِّن نِّسَائِكُمُ اللَّاتِي دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَإِن لَّمْ تَكُونُوا دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَحَلَائِلُ أَبْنَائِكُمُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلَابِكُمْ وَأَن تَجْمَعُوا بَيْنَ الْأُخْتَيْنِ إِلَّا مَا قَدْ سَلَفَ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا
رَّحِيمًا (23)

Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters (from your own father/mother) , your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.

Great so you agree with me buddy, the roots of this practice are religious in Pakistan. In this case, religion changed the culture that the tribes had before adopting this religion.

 

[EpiiC]

Yes, in the wrong direction.

Pakistanis account for 3% of births in the U.K., they make up 33% of children born with birth defects in the country.

In addition to increased risk of genetic disorders, IQ is negatively affected. Normal IQ averages around 100. “Low intelligence” is set at 85 or 90, mild disability at 70-79, and moderate disability at 50-69.

Studies show that inbred children have an average IQ of 79. One study showed a 400% increased risk for inbred children having an IQ lower than 70. The normal risk for having a child in this IQ range is 1.2%. That risk jumps to 6.2% when children are inbred.

Not surprisingly, children with low IQ are far more likely to drop out of school and have limited job skills, resulting in limited prospects for employment. In addition, inbred individuals are at risk for a wide range of developmental abnormalities that result in poor social skills and lack of empathy, among other things. Inbreeding also results in a significantly higher percentage of still births as well as increased risk of mental illness, including schizophrenia and criminal insanity.

All of these risks intensify as one generation after another inbreeds, compounding genetic abnormalities. And we’re 1,400 years in with no end in sight. That’s 50 generations' worth of inbred Muslims.

 

[Hamza913]

Right, 84 is due to 70% inbreeding, this practice must stop in the Islamic World.


You mentioned 84 average IQ, also did you know Homosexuality is also rampant.... these sickening things must stop.....

IQ is likely affected by generations of inbreeding, but it's not the sole factor as countries with far lower rates of consanguinity have much lower IQ averages like the Equitorial Guniea.

Homosexuality might have something to do with cousin marriages, but I think that's a bit of a reach.

Pakistanis account for 3% of births in the U.K., they make up 33% of children born with birth defects in the country.

In addition to increased risk of genetic disorders, IQ is negatively affected. Normal IQ averages around 100. “Low intelligence” is set at 85 or 90, mild disability at 70-79, and moderate disability at 50-69.

Studies show that inbred children have an average IQ of 79. One study showed a 400% increased risk for inbred children having an IQ lower than 70. The normal risk for having a child in this IQ range is 1.2%. That risk jumps to 6.2% when children are inbred.

Not surprisingly, children with low IQ are far more likely to drop out of school and have limited job skills, resulting in limited prospects for employment. In addition, inbred individuals are at risk for a wide range of developmental abnormalities that result in poor social skills and lack of empathy, among other things. Inbreeding also results in a significantly higher percentage of still births as well as increased risk of mental illness, including schizophrenia and criminal insanity.

All of these risks intensify as one generation after another inbreeds, compounding genetic abnormalities. And we’re 1,400 years in with no end in sight. That’s 50 generations' worth of inbred Muslims.

Okay your stretching it a bit with the whole IQ thing.

The IQ is not affected when it's a one off thing, only over generations. Even then, not the extent you think. It's important to counter cousin marriages but we cannot lie.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

No normally just retards worry about Child birth of other people's family

 

[Hamza913]

It causes genetical problems ...

So ... No !

Only when it occurs several times over. Once off is fine, we need to emphasise this otherwise the pro cousin guys will use it as ammo for their argument.

No normally just retards worry about Child birth of other people's family

No, it's perfectly humane and normal to be worried about your fellow countrymen.

 

[EpiiC]

IQ is likely affected by generations of inbreeding, but it's not the sole factor as countries with far lower rates of consanguinity have much lower IQ averages like the Equitorial Guniea.

Homosexuality might have something to do with cousin marriages, but I think that's a bit of a reach.



Okay your stretching it a bit with the whole IQ thing.

The IQ is not affected when it's a one off thing, only over generations. Even then, not the extent you think. It's important to counter cousin marriages but we cannot lie.

It's not a lie, honestly the percentage is too high to be ignored, the risks cannot be overlooked.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There is a nice cliff in UK you can both jump off that if you wish

There is a 400% chance you will survive based on your high IQ

And while you are floating down , please do a 360 to get maximum points

Look there goes two High IQ candidates first one to reach heavens

 

[Indus Pakistan]

we’re 1,400 years in with no end in sight. That’s 50 generations' worth of inbred Muslims.

There are inbreds in India as well. Your a prime cut sample of that. Please stop with the false flag. And inbreeding is NOT related to Islam. It appears to afflict certain social groups. Not all of Pakistan is effected. The practice is common in India as well. On the IQ score India is lower then Pakistan. So chill !

And if we are all inbreds, just tell me what does it make the Indian's? For a thousand years you have been conquered and bumfvcked by Muslim ingrates? So I guess that most make India's one station even lower then ingrates !

German community in Brazil are afflicted by inbreeding > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...zi-Angel-Death-Josef-Mengele-caused-boom.html

 

[Hamza913]

Becasue we are Muslims and it is clearly defined in Quran , cousins don't fall in this category
Other religions can do whatever they want. Not responsible to dictate what others do not my concern


Sura Al Niasa, ayat #23

حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُمْ وَعَمَّاتُكُمْ وَخَالَاتُكُمْ وَبَنَاتُ الْأَخِ وَبَنَاتُ الْأُخْتِ وَأُمَّهَاتُكُمُ اللَّاتِي أَرْضَعْنَكُمْ وَأَخَوَاتُكُم مِّنَ الرَّضَاعَةِ وَأُمَّهَاتُ نِسَائِكُمْ وَرَبَائِبُكُمُ اللَّاتِي فِي
حُجُورِكُم مِّن نِّسَائِكُمُ اللَّاتِي دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَإِن لَّمْ تَكُونُوا دَخَلْتُم بِهِنَّ فَلَا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَحَلَائِلُ أَبْنَائِكُمُ الَّذِينَ مِنْ أَصْلَابِكُمْ وَأَن تَجْمَعُوا بَيْنَ الْأُخْتَيْنِ إِلَّا مَا قَدْ سَلَفَ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ غَفُورًا
رَّحِيمًا (23)

Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters (from your own father/mother) , your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful.

That is no excuse to do it over and over again, but rather an excuse for it to occur once.

There is a nice cliff in UK you can both jump off that if you wish

There is a 400% chance you will survive based on your high IQ

And while you are floating down , please do a 360 to get maximum points

Look there goes two High IQ candidates first one to reach heavens

Stop being stupid otherwise we are all going to ignore you.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Plese do ...I am focusing on defence threads now , not here for marrige council