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Countries that suffer when the oil price plummets

1. Western companies pump it for you and pay you a royalty. You don't refine it either. You don't really do anything.
2. You import foreign labor to do everything for you. You don't like to work.
3. You are not allowed to talk about Iran's 'soviet junks' until you produce something of your own. Has KSA even made a rifle?:lol:. All your hardware is procured from us. And we rip you off for it.
4. This bears repeating......sanctions on Iran.



Why are you adding Yemen and Arabs now? Where do they figure in your caste system? We were comparing KSA and Iran.

I can reply despite that not being written to me.

1) All the work is done by natives. Ever heard about ARAMCO? The world's most valuable company? This is not the 1930's anymore clown.
2) Mostly manual jobs that every retard can do if necessary. All migrants could be thrown out in 1 years time and we would survive without a problem. It would just mean changes. Anyway that will change too. Many migrants have returned home and hundreds of thousands of illegals have been sent home. I even made a thread about that on PDF that I updated for quite some time.
3) Yes. Yes. Also it's just a question of time. You know it and I know it.
4) Actually most of our hardware is not bought from "you". You are a farsi false-flagger. The US is not your country. You are an migrant.

Yemen is an Arab country moreover a country located on the Arabian Peninsula. Try again clown. You talked about numbers. They have 30 million people now and one of the fastest growing populations in the world. So whenever "numbers" ever will be a problem, which they won't, they are right there.
 
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I can reply despite that not being written to me.

1) All the work is done by natives. Ever heard about ARAMCO? The world's most valuable company? This is not the 1930's anymore clown.
2) Mostly manual jobs that every retard can do if necessary. All migrants could be thrown out in 1 years time and we would survive without a problem. It would just mean changes. Anyway that will change too. Many migrants have returned home and hundreds of thousands of illegals have been sent home. I even made a thread about that on PDF that I updated for quite some time.
3) Yes. Yes. Also it's just a question of time. You know it and I know it.
4) Actually most of our hardware is not bought from "you". You are a farsi false-flagger. The US is not your country. You are an migrant.

Yemen is an Arab country moreover a country located on the Arabian Peninsula. Try again clown. You talked about numbers. They have 30 million people now and one of the fastest growing populations in the world. So whenever "numbers" ever will be a problem, which they won't, they are right there.

1. ARAMCO a government company that is simply the manager of oil fields/revenues. It doesn't produce anything.
2. Not just manual labor but nurses, teachers, doctors, engineers, architects etc. I don't think this is a negative just reiterating the attitude in GCC countries that led to mass importation of labor. Almost like work is beneath them, especially manual work.
3. You buy all your weapons from US (take that whatever way you wish :lol:) I am not a farsi or Iranian etc. I am second generation immigrant just like everyone else who was once upon a time immigrant. Not that its pertinent to what we are discussing.
4. Yemen is a SEPARATE country from KSA. You incorporating it makes as much sense as me counting Canada because they are whites there as well.
 
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1. ARAMCO a government company that is simply the manager of oil fields/revenues. It doesn't produce anything.
2. Not just manual labor but nurses, teachers, doctors, engineers, architects etc. I don't think this is a negative just reiterating the attitude in GCC countries that led to mass importation of labor. Almost like work is beneath them, especially manual work.
3. You buy all your weapons from US (take that whatever way you wish :lol:) I am not a farsi or Iranian etc. I am second generation immigrant just like everyone else who was once upon a time immigrant. Not that its pertinent to what we are discussing.
4. Yemen is a SEPARATE country from KSA. You incorporating it makes as much sense as me counting Canada because they are whites there as well.

1) No of course not. It just has hundreds of top professional local engineers, chemical engineers, chemists, petroleum engineers, economists etc. etc. who are educated at the best universities in the region and in the world. The leaders are locals too.

2) All of those positions are done by locals. Most foreign labor is lowly skilled. A small percentage are actually useful for the economy. You do realize that KSA has the highest number of students at US universities only after China, India and South Korea? I think it is not necessary for me to tell you that KSA has the most per capita than anyone else by far. Only South Korea is close. Besides there are thousands upon thousands of Saudi Arabian students outside of the US.

The number of Saudi students in the US last year grew to 44,566 — a nearly 30 per cent increase from 2011.

The country ranked behind only China, India and South Korea in the number of students studying in US colleges and universities.

More Saudis pursue studies in US | GulfNews.com

You should read up on KAUST too.

"King Abdullah University of Science and Technology (KAUST) (Arabic: جامعة الملك عبد الله للعلوم و التقنية - كاوست‎ ǧāmiʿat al-malik ʿabd al-Lāh li-l-ʿulūm wa-t-teqniyya – KAUST) is a public research university located in Thuwal, Saudi Arabia. KAUST was built and is operated by Saudi Aramco. It has the third largest endowment of any university in the world followingHarvard and Yale, respectively. KAUST is often referred as a new "House of Wisdom" and an "Arab MIT." KAUST has attracted top-notch faculty from all over the world, especially from countries such as USA, Germany, China, Japan, and Italy. The high diversity among the faculty is also reflected by the student body, with more than 60 nations represented on campus. This multicultural environment, in which creativity and teamwork is much valued, fosters great knowledge exchange and innovation.[3]

With the aim of rekindling science in the Islamic world, KAUST was founded in 2009 and focuses exclusively on graduate education and research, using English as the official language of instruction. It offers programs in Biological and Environmental Sciences and Engineering; Computer, Electrical, and Mathematical Sciences and Engineering; and Physical Sciences and Engineering. The University achieved significant progress in a very short time and is currently among one of the world's most productive universities in terms of research. It was recently announced that KAUST has one of the fastest growing research and citation records in the world right now.[4] As of 2014, QS World University Rankings rated KAUST's research record as 99.9%, which is higher than that of the University of Tokyo (88.6%), Yale University (92.2%), University of Oxford (96.6%), University of California, Berkeley (96.6%), the University of Michigan(97.2%), University of Cambridge (97.9%) and Princeton University (99.5%).[5]"

King Abdullah University of Science and Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3) LOL. Ever heard about the UK? France? China? etc. Yes, keep trying to convince us of that. An American that watches PISSTV and defends the fake wannabe Arab terror regime in Iran. Very probable.:lol:

4) You obviously forgot that the GCC was discussed. If you knew about the field that you ventured into then you would know that there has been talk of adding not only Yemen but also Jordan to the GCC. So no, the population will never be a problem. Firstly because our fertility rates are higher than those of Mullahstan, especially in Yemen, and secondly because adding just Yemen will make our population bigger. Moreover having a too big population is not healthy at all.

Try trolling a bit harder.
 
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Russia is already getting their asses kicked by the West. Long may it continue. It's a rabid country. The whole Arab world should boycott them as long as Butin is ruling.

Hey the US would like to really thank you guys for helping us on this Russian/Ukraine thing. I'm sure Putin's biggest fear is a repeat of the late 1980's drop in oil prices
 
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3) LOL. Ever heard about the UK? France? China? etc. Yes, keep trying to convince us of that. An American that watches PISSTV and defense the fake wannabe Arab terror regime. Very probable.:lol:

I didn't know you buy weapons from China...either way you buy from overseas. Iran at least tries to make for themselves. Not just weapons but cars as well. The biggest terrorists are funded from KSA and your good friend israel.. You still fund terrorists allover Syria and Iraq not forgetting the 11 saudis run by mossad who did 9/11. To call Iran terrorist would be the pot calling the kettle black.


4) You obviously forgot that the GCC was discussed. If you knew about the filed that you ventured into then you would know that there has been talk of adding not only Yemen but also Jordan to the GCC. So no, the population will never be a problem. Firstly because our fertility rates are higher than in Iran, especially in Yemen, and secondly because adding just Yemen will make our population bigger. Moreover having a too big population is not healthy at all.

Try trolling a bit harder.

Yemen is not in GCC. If you want to add GCC and even Yemen and Jordan you are talking of many countries vs one country.
 
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Hey the US would like to really thank you guys for helping us on this Russian/Ukraine thing. I'm sure Putin's biggest fear is a repeat of the late 1980's drop in oil prices

I am very happy that France has followed suit and EU as a whole too.

Notice this too. Apropos the talk about natural resources in this thread.

In mid-March 2013, The Saudi Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources Ali Naimi gave an estimate of over 600 trillion cubic feet of unconventional gas reserves, more than double its proven conventional reserves. That estimate would put Saudi Arabia fifth in a 32-country shale gas reserves ranking compiled for the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

Shale gas by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See post 43 in this thread as well.
 
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great strategy
like Iran exports that much oil in the first place, this hurts Saudis a hell of a lot more than Iran

Bro, try to avoid participating in Arab-Farsi piss contests if it's not related to us. That's what I have learnt in this forum ;)

Anyway, as rumors say, USA has talked with KSA to make oil prices low, so Russians go under pressure. ;) As you may know, unlike ME, many Russian oil wells have high production costs per barrel, and if oil prices goes 15-20 dollars lower, many of their oil fields need to stop working. They are already working with low profit now ;)
 
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Dear @al-Hasani, the long rant here was not actually needed, but you wrote what you have repeated like hundreds of times on this forum, so I don't think they are new or noble to anyone.

I didn't make a comparison between Iran and GCC economies, I was saying that keeping the oil prices down to hurt Iran is the most stupid thing to do and I'm happy for that, because you are losing 3 times more than Iran.

About GCC being one country, that's just a sweet dream, I will accept that only after GCC countries have one flag and one leader which is never going to happen.

We are losing three times more than Iran? Hahahahahaha, really its in propaganda machine is a strong one indeed. Do some real research then come back to me kiddo.

Al-Hasani stop wasting time with Kahamenie cock sucking wishers, just like a dog throw a Khamenie sized dildo their way and they will go running after it with their tongues a meter away.
 
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October 14, 2014

UAE: falling oil prices won't hurt 2014 GDP
Private economists agree there will be little damage to Gulf's oil exporting economies

Falling oil prices won't hurt the gross domestic product growth of the United Arab Emirates this year, a Ministry of Economy official told reporters on Tuesday.

"Oil accounts for less than 30 per cent of our GDP, so there will be no impact. The UAE economy is now very diversified," said Mohammad Ahmad Bin Abdul Aziz Al Shehhi, undersecretary at the ministry.

"The oil price impact doesn't reflect highly in our GDP." Brent crude oil futures hit a four-year low of $87.74 a barrel on Monday, down more than $25 from their peak in June.

Private economists agree, however, that unless prices decline further and stay at those levels for at least a year, there will be little damage to the Gulf's big oil exporting economies.

Although governments in the region rely heavily on oil income, they have built up huge financial reserves and have very low debt, so they can continue spending on economic growth if needed. Lower oil prices will not translate directly into lower real GDP growth, which will slow only if oil production decreases. Also, most Gulf private sectors have been booming.

A Reuters poll of analysts in September, when the oil price slide was already well underway, found they expected GDP growth in most Gulf Cooperation Council countries to accelerate slightly next year. In the UAE, GDP is projected to grow 4.5 percent in 2015.

UAE: falling oil prices won't hurt 2014 GDP | GulfNews.com

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October 7, 2014

Low oil prices might shelve Gulf mega projects
Arab Gulf states have calculated their budgets based on oil prices ranging between 85 and 100 US dollars per barrel

Current sliding oil prices are not causing many economists to worry yet about the effects in the Arab Gulf region, and they do not perceive it as a prelude to a major oil price crash.

However, many of the economists and oil experts believe the continuous price falls could lead to a review of some mega projects in the region. They do not expect this to affect any ventures that generate job opportunities in the region, where nearly more than half of the population is under 25 years and youth unemployment is considered a major issue.

“Oil prices are not expected to stabilise or go upwards,” Dubai-based economist Nasser Al Saidi told Gulf News. “Most of the reports and forecasts predict that the prices would range between $85 and $95 [per barrel] in the next three years.”

Oil prices started to slide over the past few months. North Sea Brent, a major benchmark, hit $115 dollars a barrel last June, but then fell $95.60 in late September. North American crude benchmark West Texas Intermediate (WTI) reached $104 in June, but is now hovering around $90.

Oman Crude Oil Futures Contract (DME Oman) hit its lowest level since July 2012 in September and is being traded at around $92 per barrel.

Arab Gulf states have calculated their budgets based on oil prices ranging between $85 and $100 per barrel, economists noted.

Yet, many economists believe current low oil prices don’t constitute a major source of concern to the region, home to many of the top oil producers in the world: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar and Iraq. Another major oil producer, Iran, is under international economic sanctions, which limits its oil exports, because of its controversial nuclear programme.

Economists say when oil prices were high in the past years, Arab Gulf countries succeeded in building a sufficient surplus and invested a major portion of the revenues in establishing “an important reserve” to use from when needed.

Economists said the impact of low prices on the region will depend on how low the prices go and for how long do they stay there. They believe the main impact will be on big projects, but not those that generate job opportunities.

“The inclination will be in favour of projects that hire more people, and are less technical in nature, rather than projects that provide less employment,” Abdul Aziz Al Saqr, Jeddah-based chairman of the Gulf Research Centre, told Gulf News.

However, Al Saqr believes it is “premature” to talk about low oil prices, since there is still a demand and there are economies flourishing in parts of the world, including China, which has a considerable weight in defining oil prices.

The recent fall in prices was due to the slow economic growth in China, among other factors, economists and experts said. “China is a major [oil] consumer,” said veteran economic writer Walid Khadouri. “By consuming nearly 9.7 million barrels a day, China consumes nearly 10 per cent of the world’ production,” he added. Current production from the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec) is around 30 million barrels per day.

Meanwhile, economists totally exclude the possibility of oil prices suffering a crash similar to that of 1986, when the prices fell from $27 to below $10.

“There is no reason to predicate such a thing [crash],” Beirut-based Khadouri said. “If you notice, the slide in oil prices is very slow. It is still within the nineties,” he said.

At the same time, ongoing instability in many Arab countries and inability of many countries to export oil due to political, economic and security reasons will hold the demand for oil from Arab Gulf states, economists said.

Demand continuity coupled with the high cost of rigging shale oil and shale gas would guarantee relatively high price levels, Al Saqr noted.

Low oil prices might shelve Gulf mega projects | GulfNews.com

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October 14, 2014

Drop in oil prices not to affect GDP
Ministry of Economy official confirms drop will not impact overall economy

The drop in oil prices is not expected to affect the UAE’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in 2014, according to Mohammed Al Shehhi, undersecretary for economic affairs at the Ministry of Economy.

“The oil price impact doesn’t reflect highly in our GDP because it accounts for less than 30 per cent of GDP. The UAE economy is now very diversified,” Al Shehhi told reporters on Tuesday.

Brent crude oil hit a four-year low on Monday, reaching a price of $87.7 per barrel — down more than $25 from its peak in June.

Saleem Khokhar, head of equities at the National Bank of Abu Dhabi’s asset management group, said that GCC countries, including the UAE, already have significant oil reserves that are enough not to make the decrease in oil prices a problem for the economy.

“When you look at short-term movements, [the drop in prices] is not such a big deal. If you get a long-term sustained drop, and they remain at $80 for argument’s sake, then it will start to have an impact on the medium- to long-term but not immediately,” he told Gulf News.


Khokhar added, “What you have to remember is that the break-even oil price for us is around the $85 to $90 mark. Once you start to go below that, it’s not going to be an immediate effect; you have to have a sustained lower price. The other side of the equation is that there are plenty of foreign assets that are held overseas by many countries, and we’re talking hundreds of billions of dollars.”


He said he did not expect the UAE will need to use its foreign reserve on the short-term.

As for the outlook for oil prices, Khokhar said he expected them to stabilise at around the $90 level.

“You have to remember that the demand for oil is not decreasing; it is increasing overall, particularly from the Asian countries,” he said.

Drop in oil prices not to affect GDP | GulfNews.com
 
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We are losing three times more than Iran? Hahahahahaha, really its in propaganda machine is a strong one indeed. Do some real research then come back to me kiddo.

Al-Hasani stop wasting time with Kahamenie cock sucking wishers, just like a dog throw a Khamenie sized dildo their way and they will go running after it with their tongues a meter away.
Yes you are.

Your post didn't have any more worthy parts to answer. Please learn to act civilized and you will get a proper answer.
 
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We are losing three times more than Iran? Hahahahahaha, really its in propaganda machine is a strong one indeed. Do some real research then come back to me kiddo.

Al-Hasani stop wasting time with Kahamenie cock sucking wishers, just like a dog throw a Khamenie sized dildo their way and they will go running after it with their tongues a meter away.

:rofl::sarcastic::omghaha::laughcry:

Point taken my friend.
 
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Whatever may be the strategy of KSA, I am loving it... Petroleum prices are going down here.. :)

BTW has this anything to do with Shale explosion in USA..? I know this is hurting Russia and Iran.. But will this have any effect on prospects of Shale development in States ..?
 
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Whatever may be the strategy of KSA, I am loving it... Petroleum prices are going down here.. :)

BTW has this anything to do with Shale explosion in USA..? I know this is hurting Russia and Iran.. But will this have any effect on prospects of Shale development in States ..?

Yes, shale extraction will stop becoming profitable, and so companies that do that will stop.
 
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great strategy
like Iran exports that much oil in the first place, this hurts Saudis a hell of a lot more than Iran
The sauds are playing against their interest, some times they forget that they live in the Middle east and not in Europe or north America...
Her fixation on Iran is idiotic, both countries are alike ...both are theocratic and fundamentalists. But in this spitting contest between the two, Iran has the upper hand...This map says it all and is not favorable to KSA in case of conflict...
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