Could India block Pakistani ports in case of a war?

[Pyara9]

Your Navy of 4 Frigates IS GOING TO STOP indian Navy of 2 carrriers & 36 destroyers & Frigate

YOU HAVE MORE SEA LINE TO PROTECT. HENCE U NEED A BIGGER NAVY. Ours is tiny so is our fleet. More then enough to cover the area. So your navey will be coming at us in sort of a funnel.

Example: our sub could be lurking on the bay of bengal waiting for u to make a mistake. You would never know so you would need to keep some protection on all side of india. For us we know which direction your navey is coming from.. only one side thats why we don't need, require big navey.

Example #2. To protect a small room with only one door 2 guards would be enough.
To protect a mansion with many doors n windows i would need 50+ guards.

And that is exactly why our Navy is more into buying subs rather then big ships which are easier to track n attacked. Subs are more stealthy will keep you guessing.. and u will stay on guard on all sides.. Hence splitting your navey might into fractions.

It's basically a counter strategy thats all only time will tell which is best. I hope it never comes to that.

For more info watch the movie called 300.

 

[Radio Mirchi]

lol jazbati kid, even u can not touch in normal day and u r talking about war time, reason is this
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You expect me to trust a man who cant even dare enter his own motherland.
And you are showing the middle finger that is named after an Afghan warrior who devastated the heartland of modern day pakistan on his way to modern day india. You know how Afghans are treating you... The moment you face India your back is to Afghans.... remember that.

 

[Awan68]

You would've to bring most of ur naval assets right where we want them to enforce an effective blockade, once ur policy makers committ ur navy to such an endevour there might be no turning back, it would be either all in or all out, the blockade might and most probably will backfire and you will loose the quantative edge in open waters over PN as a very probable result. I hope ur policy makers keep sticking to decades old strategy of blockades(made obselete by long range Asm's, cm's and slcms), they would make our job too easy. The modern naval strategy relies heavily on surprise tactics and location denial, a blockade acts in confrontation with that strategy cause in a blockade the location of ur naval assets is more or less known to the enemy. A hint: why do u think most modern navy's are investing heavily in stealth ships.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

You expect me to trust a man who cant even dare enter his own motherland.
And you are showing the middle finger that is named after an Afghan warrior who devastated the heartland of modern day pakistan on his way to modern day india. You know how Afghans are treating you... The moment you face India your back is to Afghans.... remember that.

hahahahah xD hey kid u forgot to mention one big factor afghan's are muslim and most of them Ex-taliban. Today trump start showing love to pakistan bcz uncle sam know with out pakistan effort, afghanistan can not be stable this is ugly truth which is hurting u to much.

 

[Radio Mirchi]

hahahahah xD hey kid u forgot to mention one big factor afghan's are muslim and most of them Ex-taliban. Today trump start showing love to pakistan bcz uncle sam know with out pakistan effort, afghanistan can not be stable this is ugly truth which is hurting u to much.

Soon all the Talibans will become EX. All EX talibs are anti Pakistan. Even I have heard about Muslim Ummah. It exists in blogs.
Stability in Afghanistan as much depends on Pakistan according to the US as much as success of cpec depends on India according to China.

 

[Army research]

You expect me to trust a man who cant even dare enter his own motherland.
And you are showing the middle finger that is named after an Afghan warrior who devastated the heartland of modern day pakistan on his way to modern day india. You know how Afghans are treating you... The moment you face India your back is to Afghans.... remember that.

(An independent view , neutral )
The Pakistani law enforcement agencies have been significantly strengthened on he the border with Afghanistan with tanks, choppers mraps dedicated special operation wings ( visit Pakistan law enforcement wing and look at FC ). Furthermore the mountains are extremely difficult to assault and even local tribes on the border are armed to the teeth. As long as the Americans don't do anything fishy ( which if you think about it will cause China to be come fishy ). The west is secured. Tho I still believe that the Indian navy will significantly hamper and maybe even block trade , yet in a short war it may suffer more than dealt , however a long term war will be interesting to observe

 

[AZ1]

Soon all the Talibans will become EX. All EX talibs are anti Pakistan. Even I have heard about Muslim Ummah. It exists in blogs.
Stability in Afghanistan as much depends on Pakistan according to the US as much as success of cpec depends on India according to China.

hence indian end up saying future tense soon will.be, would be lol. Wake up kid.

 

[ashok321]

Naval blockade of Pakistan would be a declaretion of war. NASR would be activated.

Modi has no guts, only false glory.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

As per CSD IN will block Pak seas immediately after any conflict. And it's better to be prepared rather than sitting like a duck and expect them not to come

It's all a drama. Somebody said "wars are too important to be left in hands of generals". PN is mostly just a PIA on the water that keeps lots of people employed and provides plenty of admirals cushty positions with pay/privilages/plots.

The fact is and nobody can deny India/Pak wars are sweet and short affairs. You can't deny that. Have you ever seen two overweight drunks fight? The fights last few minutes because both get tired and start huffing and puffing and then their legs go underneath them.

In a Indo-Pak war within 3/4 weeks either Pakistan defences on the border would be breached by massive IA armoured thrust. In this case PA would fall back on nuclear deterance and it would mushroom time. Or PA will have blunted IA attack and the war would turn into one of attrition. Within a month before Indian Navy block starts hurting Pakistan would run out of dollar reserves to continue fighting. Wars are expensive. We do not have enough in the kitty to fight longer than a month.

Fortunately by this time India would also be tired. Their economy would be hurting as well. One of month of war and the euphoria will have subsided. By this stage US/China would place massive pressure to bring the war to end. And it would end with some tract of land in our hands and others in IA hands. This would be given back. Few prisoners exchanged. Time for whole raft of medals to be minted and parade time. Stories of bravery and valour. Bollywood would come with some good feel movie. End off.

To sum it up. Either a Indo-Pak war will within 2/3 weeks go nuclear or turn into simple slogging match. As both sides don't have the stamina for long wars it would come to end within month because of danger of going bankrupt.

The only way a IN blockade would have any bearing on the war is if it went on for months and months in which case IN blockade would be critical factor. That is never going to happen. So please relax. Scrap half of the PN. One or two ships for few admirals to play with. Save rest of the money and spend it on better law and order inside Pakistan.

 

[AZ1]

Neither Pakistan or India will go for war.

 

[t_for_talli]

In 1971 PN didn't had any kind of AShMs and air defense was very limited based on some AAAs now (officially announced range) PN can hit targets at 240-280kms from shore based defense systems, same systems are now on FACs too so now with out other assets PN can cover it's EEZ, if you bring Sea King/Z-9 helis, P-3s/Other MPAs with AShMs/torpedoes this capability increase many folds, now add F-22Ps and subs to that equation which will have longer range and better endurance, so in NCW environment PN can hold against any blockade put today by IN although in full blown war PN may get huge loses but that could trigger use of TNWs in numbers and IN may not want to escalate situation to that level.

Whatever the difference in capabilities and technology has widen between 71 and now,
Back then you had US on your side and easy access to better technology than India

 

[maxpayne]

It's all a drama. Somebody said "wars are too important to be left in hands of generals". PN is mostly just a PIA on the water that keeps lots of people employed and provides plenty of admirals cushty positions with pay/privilages/plots.

The fact is and nobody can deny India/Pak wars are sweet and short affairs. You can't deny that. Have you ever seen two overweight drunks fight? The fights last few minutes because both get tired and start huffing and puffing and then their legs go underneath them.

In a Indo-Pak war within 3/4 weeks either Pakistan defences on the border would be breached by massive IA armoured thrust. In this case PA would fall back on nuclear deterance and it would mushroom time. Or PA will have blunted IA attack and the war would turn into one of attrition. Within a month before Indian Navy block starts hurting Pakistan would run out of dollar reserves to continue fighting. Wars are expensive. We do not have enough in the kitty to fight longer than a month.

Fortunately by this time India would also be tired. Their economy would be hurting as well. One of month of war and the euphoria will have subsided. By this stage US/China would place massive pressure to bring the war to end. And it would end with some tract of land in our hands and others in IA hands. This would be given back. Few prisoners exchanged. Time for whole raft of medals to be minted and parade time. Stories of bravery and valour. Bollywood would come with some good feel movie. End off.

To sum it up. Either a Indo-Pak war will within 2/3 weeks go nuclear or turn into simple slogging match. As both sides don't have the stamina for long wars it would come to end within month because of danger of going bankrupt.

The only way a IN blockade would have any bearing on the war is if it went on for months and months in which case IN blockade would be critical factor. That is never going to happen. So please relax. Scrap half of the PN. One or two ships for few admirals to play with. Save rest of the money and spend it on better law and order inside Pakistan.

CSD is not a drama. How can you say that? Yes it maybe one of their many plans but it's existence is undeniable. Same navy tracked indian submarine last year and was ready with depth charges to hit it as soon as orders arrive. What do you think we are without PN?
And yes for past you are right about length of conflicts, but future is unknown. If it's only about $$$ a country possess thn remember Iran Iraq war when they fought for years with due to weak navy, Iran was also facing partial naval blockage.
There is a good chance of any conflict when China, US and others are busy elsewhere and we have to continue fighting for months if not years. Further in 1971, we mostly lost due to weak navy in both sides of Pakistan. These admirals are there for a reason which maybe you and me do not fully understand.
Wars are not narrow subject as you are thinking. We cannot expect anyone coming to our aid everytime. What if they do not? Then be ready for another 1971 type incident when our forces are powerless and nation was weeping in their rooms.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Just for the record.

*PN cut by half
*PAF is capped. Limited purchases for next decade until 5th gen Chinese fighter becomes available. Then go for small but potent force.

However we need a large army. Not so much for India. That country is covered by nuclear deterance. The army is needed for internal security. Pakistan is a fragile state and it could easily go the ay Syria, Libya or Iraq have gone. Break up into ethnic/sectarian/tribal entities fighting each other. We already have a lower form of this going in the non state actors engaged in sectarian conflicts etc.

Therefore Pakistan needs a strong military to anchor the nation. However PA needs to be pruned. Large chunk of it needs to be re-configured to provide dedicatred internal security. Something like Turkish Jandarma needs to be developed by even asking for Turkish help.

Pak Jandarma

* 400,000 men strong
* 2,000 plus 8 wheeled AFVs ~ MRAP standard
* 2,000 plus 4 wheeled AFVs ~ MRAP standard
* 50 helicopters for close air support
* 10 C-130s for fast transport
* All troops provide top quality personal body armour

This force is then deployed across Pakistan to get proper writ of the state in every nook and corner. The stability that it would create would help Pakistan and encourage foreign investment. A ideal place for CPEC LTP.

continue fighting for months if not years.

Wars cost money. After a month Pakistan will be bankrupt. What are you going to fight with? Sticks and stones? Please do tell how you would finance a war longer than one month?

Rob Bank of America?

 

[Radio Mirchi]

Naval blockade of Pakistan would be a declaretion of war. NASR would be activated.

Modi has no guts, only false glory.

Why should India do naval blockade when there is no export happening from pakistan. India is achieving things without the naval blockade.

hence indian end up saying future tense soon will.be, would be lol. Wake up kid.

Your present and future is both tensed. Please continue sleeping.

 

[maxpayne]

Just for the record.

*PN cut by half
*PAF is capped. Limited purchases for next decade until 5th gen Chinese fighter becomes available. Then go for small but potent force.

However we need a large army. Not so much for India. That country is covered by nuclear deterance. The army is needed for internal security. Pakistan is a fragile state and it could easily go the ay Syria, Libya or Iraq have gone. Break up into ethnic/sectarian/tribal entities fighting each other. We already have a lower form of this going in the non state actors engaged in sectarian conflicts etc.

Therefore Pakistan needs a strong military to anchor the nation. However PA needs to be pruned. Large chunk of it needs to be re-configured to provide dedicatred internal security. Something like Turkish Jandarma needs to be developed by even asking for Turkish help.

Pak Jandarma

* 400,000 men strong
* 2,000 plus 8 wheeled AFVs ~ MRAP standard
* 2,000 plus 4 wheeled AFVs ~ MRAP standard
* 50 helicopters for close air support
* 10 C-130s for fast transport
* All troops provide top quality personal body armour

This force is then deployed across Pakistan to get proper writ of the state in every nook and corner. The stability that it would create would help Pakistan and encourage foreign investment. A ideal place for CPEC LTP.

Wars cost money. After a month Pakistan will be bankrupt. What are you going to fight with? Sticks and stones? Please do tell how you would finance a war longer than one month?

Rob Bank of America?

Yes war costs money. But how? First you need fuel for deployment and spares already in storage. Then you need ammo which you have in bulk from lots of 70s. It is pertinent to mention that after 17 days full scale war in 1965 we still had 20-30% ammunition left. If it is finished we have POF if more required. As per my own estimates in case of war with India we can survive for few months IN CASE our trade routes are open. If not forget about even a month. 2 weeks at most. This is the reason IN will go for blockade to end war in a very short time.