Cost of construction of Metro Rail in Dhaka is much higher than India.

[Bombaywalla]

I was bored.

Man you’ve got loads of patience!

 

[KapitaanAli]

Just Alstrom!! Baalton is the greatest thing happened to mankind since industrial revolution, get your facts right please

Have a look at their futuristic two wheeler design
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Wow. Are those alloy wheels!

Walton bikes look curiously similar to some old (and some running) Indian models, when it's not really old Japanese ones.

This isn't a bad thing, this is how industries develop. Just an interesting thing.

 

[my2cents]

Bangladesh people may not be quality conscious, but the JICA and Japanese are. JICA will not allow to build a 3rd grade cheap metro system that would bring bad name for Japan. JICA will certainly introduce the best of Japan. Quality certainly costs money.

Cost of the trains is negligible to the overall cost of the project. For Hyderabad metro overall cost of the project is 14,000 crores($2.2 billion) and the cost of local trains is 9 crores each. If imported the trains will cost about 14 crores each.

 

[Bilal9]

Cost of the trains is negligible to the overall cost of the project. For Hyderabad metro overall cost of the project is 14,000 crores($2.2 billion) and the cost of local trains is 9 crores each. If imported the trains will cost about 14 crores each.

Before setting up assembly locally (by Bombardier/Alstom?) all metro traincars for most metros were imported I believe.

I remember at least some Mumbai metro traincars were made in China? Same for Nagpur?

How will that equate now with the following:
"It is now mandatory for the metro rail companies to procure minimum 75 per cent of train cars and 25 per cent of critical equipment from within the country" - effective immediately as of April 2017.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/58327423.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Further - what is the indigenous content in Indian traincars for metros made locally other than welded bodies? From what I know, most critical undercarriage bogey components are still being supplied by Bombardier.

 

[my2cents]

Before setting up assembly locally (by Bombardier/Alstom?) all metro traincars for most metros were imported I believe.

I remember at least some Mumbai metro traincars were made in China? Same for Nagpur?

How will that equate now with the following:
"It is now mandatory for the metro rail companies to procure minimum 75 per cent of train cars and 25 per cent of critical equipment from within the country" - effective immediately as of April 2017.

Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/58327423.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Further - what is the indigenous content in Indian traincars for metros made locally other than welded bodies? From what I know, most critical undercarriage bogey components are still being supplied by Bombardier.

It is true that some undercarriage components and gear boxes are being imported. Every medium and big cities are vying for metros or already being built. Initially most of the trains were imported. Now the scale is bigger and each city needs about 30 to 60 trains to ply on daily basis to meet the raising demand.

So, the need to develop and source locally makes sense.

 

[Bilal9]

It is true that some undercarriage components and gear boxes are being imported. Every medium and big cities are vying for metros or already being built. Initially most of the trains were imported. Now the scale is bigger and each city needs about 30 to 60 trains to ply on daily basis to meet the raising demand.

So, the need to develop and source locally makes sense.

For a country like India - this is necessary, there will be some 1600 traincars needed across all Indian metros.

For smaller markets like ours, not so much. Import is a better idea. But local CKD/SKD assembly of traincars at least helps solve maintenance issues much quicker by repair depots.

 

[gslv mk3]

Before setting up assembly locally (by Bombardier/Alstom?) all metro traincars for most metros were imported I believe.

"All for most" Yeah right.

There is a JV called BEML- Hyundai Rotem. Heard of it ?

1920 Coaches out of 2140 Coachs for Delhi metro phase I to III were made in India.

Further - what is the indigenous content in Indian traincars for metros made locally other than welded bodies? From what I know, most critical undercarriage bogey components are still being supplied by Bombardier.

'From what I know'. Yes, I know what that means.

Most of the components including bogie frame, traction transformers, traction motors, EP brakes etc are made locally.

Bombardier themselves export bogies from India & has a traction electric plant.

Siemens is another major manufacturer of propulsion systems & bogies

gear boxes are being imported.

Voith now makes them in India bhai.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Metro rail project: Construction continues with minimal inconvenience

• Shahed Shafiq
• Published at 04:19 PM March 10, 2018

Workers build a frame for the Metro Rail project in the capital’s Uttara Diyabari area on October 11, 2017Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka Tribune
The residents of Dhaka had braced themselves for another period of hassle on roads, but authorities have ensured minimal interruptions to public life
The Dhaka Mass Rapid Transit Development Project (metro rail project), is being implemented in the capital, aiming to ensure an effective, safe and environment-friendly mass transportation system for the city’s dwellers.

The project, when completed, would also contribute in easing the traffic congestion plaguing the city for decades.

Piling is being done across Dhaka, along with the construction of depots and rail stations.

The residents of Dhaka had braced themselves for another period of inconvenience, which they usually face during the construction of flyovers.

However, various people-oriented initiatives taken by the authorities have ensured minimal hassle while construction is in progress.

Impact of project construction on public
The correspondent has visited Uttara, Mirpur and Agargaon areas to get a firsthand view of the impact of the ongoing construction around the city.

According to project insiders, four lanes have been kept open on roads to minimize road congestion. Hard barriers (fences made of concrete and steel) have been installed around construction areas to contain dust pollution.

Water is being sprayed around the construction site to keep the air breathable. Soil, which pile up after digging, is being taken to a dumping site in Uttara.

The project construction perimeter fences are minimizing public inconvenience.

Construction has picked up momentum in several key areas of Dhaka, such as Mirpur 12, 10, Kazipara, Shewrapara, Taltola and Agargaon.

In Agargaon, cranes and excavators have been brought in for piling work.

Construction workers are actively working to help prevent traffic congestion near construction zones. At least eight to nine workers have been tasked with this duty at every kilometre.

A temporary project office has also been built in front of the Sher-e-Bangla Agricultural University.

Musa, a local rickshaw puller, said: “Vehicle traffic continues on roads despite the fencing that has been installed around the project site. The level of inconvenience is much lower than the troubles we face during flyover constructions.”

Meanwhile, an insider from the Road Transport and Bridges Ministry said: “The contractor firms have been directed to finish construction within the permitted scheduled.

“Bangladesh has already signed a deal with Japanese firm Kawasaki Mitsubishi Consortium, for procuring metro rail coaches.

The insider revealed that Road Transport and Bridges Minister Obaidul Quader is directly supervising the metro rail project.

Uttara to Motijheel in 37 minutes
Speaking to the correspondent, Project Director Md Aftabuddin Talukder said: “After the project is completed, a transit from Uttara to Motijheel will take only 37 minutes.

“The electric trains, each having six compartments, will move at a speed of 32km per hour.”

He continued: “Each train can carry up to 1,696 passengers at a time. Out of which, 942 of them will be able to sit, and the rest can stand. There will be a train every four minutes.

“A total of 60,000 passengers from the both sides of the city will be able to commute every hour. Bangladesh is inching forward to realizing this project.”

Construction from Uttara third project to Agargaon is scheduled to be completed by 2019. Nine rail stations will be constructed in this route.

A total of 16 stations will be built from Uttara third project to Motijheel. Designs for the stations have also been finalized.

Soil testing from 40-feet deep underground is being carried out in sites chosen for building these stations.

The progress of the project is visible from the Rokeya Sarani to Mirpur, much to the satisfaction of the city dwellers.

Metro rail project at a glance
Prime Minster Sheikh Hasina formally inaugurated the metro rail project line-six construction on June 26, 2017.

The project, which is scheduled to be fully implement by 2024, has a projected budget of Tk21,985 crore.

Of the budget, Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) will provide Tk16,595, while the government exchequer will provide Tk5,390 crore.

The project is making good progress, and additional activities such as soil testing and shifting of utility services are being continued without any major setbacks.

Project construction from Uttara third phase to Agargaon is scheduled to be completed by December, 2019.

Meanwhile, project construction from Uttara third phase to Bangladesh Bank is set to end by 2020.

The 16 stations will be built in these areas- Uttara-North, Uttara-Centre, Uttara-South, Pallabi, Mirpur-11, Mirpur-10, Kazipara, Shewrapara, Agargaon, Bijoy Sarani, Farmgate, Karwan Bazar,

Shahbagh, Dhaka University, Bangladesh Secretariat and Motijheel.

When contacted, the project’s Chief Engineer (Civil) Abdul Baki Mia declined to comment on the overall status of the project, saying: “We cannot discuss the project status with the media, because we have been told not to.”

This article was first published on banglatribune.com
http://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...construction-continues-minimal-inconvenience/

 

[UKBengali]

Metro rail project: Construction continues with minimal inconvenience

• Shahed Shafiq
• Published at 04:19 PM March 10, 2018

Workers build a frame for the Metro Rail project in the capital’s Uttara Diyabari area on October 11, 2017Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka Tribune
The residents of Dhaka had braced themselves for another period of hassle on roads, but authorities have ensured minimal interruptions to public life
The Dhaka Mass Rapid Transit Development Project (metro rail project), is being implemented in the capital, aiming to ensure an effective, safe and environment-friendly mass transportation system for the city’s dwellers.

The project, when completed, would also contribute in easing the traffic congestion plaguing the city for decades.

Piling is being done across Dhaka, along with the construction of depots and rail stations.

The residents of Dhaka had braced themselves for another period of inconvenience, which they usually face during the construction of flyovers.

However, various people-oriented initiatives taken by the authorities have ensured minimal hassle while construction is in progress.

Impact of project construction on public
The correspondent has visited Uttara, Mirpur and Agargaon areas to get a firsthand view of the impact of the ongoing construction around the city.

According to project insiders, four lanes have been kept open on roads to minimize road congestion. Hard barriers (fences made of concrete and steel) have been installed around construction areas to contain dust pollution.

Water is being sprayed around the construction site to keep the air breathable. Soil, which pile up after digging, is being taken to a dumping site in Uttara.

The project construction perimeter fences are minimizing public inconvenience.

Construction has picked up momentum in several key areas of Dhaka, such as Mirpur 12, 10, Kazipara, Shewrapara, Taltola and Agargaon.

In Agargaon, cranes and excavators have been brought in for piling work.

Construction workers are actively working to help prevent traffic congestion near construction zones. At least eight to nine workers have been tasked with this duty at every kilometre.

A temporary project office has also been built in front of the Sher-e-Bangla Agricultural University.

Musa, a local rickshaw puller, said: “Vehicle traffic continues on roads despite the fencing that has been installed around the project site. The level of inconvenience is much lower than the troubles we face during flyover constructions.”

Meanwhile, an insider from the Road Transport and Bridges Ministry said: “The contractor firms have been directed to finish construction within the permitted scheduled.

“Bangladesh has already signed a deal with Japanese firm Kawasaki Mitsubishi Consortium, for procuring metro rail coaches.

The insider revealed that Road Transport and Bridges Minister Obaidul Quader is directly supervising the metro rail project.

Uttara to Motijheel in 37 minutes
Speaking to the correspondent, Project Director Md Aftabuddin Talukder said: “After the project is completed, a transit from Uttara to Motijheel will take only 37 minutes.

“The electric trains, each having six compartments, will move at a speed of 32km per hour.”

He continued: “Each train can carry up to 1,696 passengers at a time. Out of which, 942 of them will be able to sit, and the rest can stand. There will be a train every four minutes.

“A total of 60,000 passengers from the both sides of the city will be able to commute every hour. Bangladesh is inching forward to realizing this project.”

Construction from Uttara third project to Agargaon is scheduled to be completed by 2019. Nine rail stations will be constructed in this route.

A total of 16 stations will be built from Uttara third project to Motijheel. Designs for the stations have also been finalized.

Soil testing from 40-feet deep underground is being carried out in sites chosen for building these stations.

The progress of the project is visible from the Rokeya Sarani to Mirpur, much to the satisfaction of the city dwellers.

Metro rail project at a glance
Prime Minster Sheikh Hasina formally inaugurated the metro rail project line-six construction on June 26, 2017.

The project, which is scheduled to be fully implement by 2024, has a projected budget of Tk21,985 crore.

Of the budget, Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) will provide Tk16,595, while the government exchequer will provide Tk5,390 crore.

The project is making good progress, and additional activities such as soil testing and shifting of utility services are being continued without any major setbacks.

Project construction from Uttara third phase to Agargaon is scheduled to be completed by December, 2019.

Meanwhile, project construction from Uttara third phase to Bangladesh Bank is set to end by 2020.

The 16 stations will be built in these areas- Uttara-North, Uttara-Centre, Uttara-South, Pallabi, Mirpur-11, Mirpur-10, Kazipara, Shewrapara, Agargaon, Bijoy Sarani, Farmgate, Karwan Bazar,

Shahbagh, Dhaka University, Bangladesh Secretariat and Motijheel.

When contacted, the project’s Chief Engineer (Civil) Abdul Baki Mia declined to comment on the overall status of the project, saying: “We cannot discuss the project status with the media, because we have been told not to.”

This article was first published on banglatribune.com
http://www.dhakatribune.com/banglad...construction-continues-minimal-inconvenience/


1696 passengers in a single train and a train will come at every 4 minutes. So 60,000 from each direction per hour or 120,000 from both direction in a single hour. All these means, train will have to contain more coaches, station have to be bigger.There will be more station, 16 for 20km journey. Do any Indian metro are in this scale? Also the stations will contain more modern facilities as per other reports.@gslv mk3 you have done a lot of monkey dance shouting extra cost of Dhaka metro and how cost effective are the great Indian rust bucket metro. Now consider these facts and don't forget it is being done by the Japanese. So, no Indian style cheap, low class construction.

Japan will help BD build a world-class metro covering the whole of Dhaka by 2030.

BD now has Japan, China, Russia along with ADB, World Bank and others to assist in building a truly world-class infrastructure covering the whole country within the next generation.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

He continued: “Each train can carry up to 1,696 passengers at a time. Out of which, 942 of them will be able to sit, and the rest can stand. There will be a train every four minutes.

“A total of 60,000 passengers from the both sides of the city will be able to commute every hour. Bangladesh is inching forward to realizing this project.”

1696 passengers in a single train and a train will come at every 4 minutes. So 30,000 from each direction per hour or 60,000 from both direction in a single hour. All these means, train will have to contain more coaches, station have to be much bigger.There will be more station, 16 for 20km journey. Are any Indian metro in such a scale? Also the stations will contain more modern facilities as per other reports. @gslv mk3 you have done a lot of monkey dance shouting extra cost of Dhaka metro and how cost effective are the great are Indian rust bucket metros. Now consider these facts and don't forget it is being done by the Japanese. So, no Indian style cheap, low class construction devoid of any aesthetics.

 

[UKBengali]

1696 passengers in a single train and a train will come at every 4 minutes. So 60,000 from each direction per hour or 120,000 from both direction in a single hour. All these means, train will have to contain more coaches, station have to be much bigger.There will be more station, 16 for 20km journey. Are any Indian metro in such a scale? Also the stations will contain more modern facilities as per other reports. @gslv mk3 you have done a lot of monkey dance shouting extra cost of Dhaka metro and how cost effective are the great Indian rust bucket metros. Now consider these facts and don't forget it is being done by the Japanese. So, no Indian style cheap, low class construction devoid of any aesthetics.

30,000 each way and 60,000 both ways per hour.
Total of 5 lines will eventually be built to cover the whole of Dhaka.

 

[gslv mk3]

1696 passengers in a single train and a train will come at every 4 minutes. So 60,000 from each direction per hour or 120,000 from both direction in a single hour. All these means, train will have to contain more coaches, station have to be much bigger.There will be more station, 16 for 20km journey. Are any Indian metro this scale?

That means less than 30,000 passengers per hour per direction genius, check your math.

Ever made of Delhi metro ? Hyderabad ?

Here is the case of Delhi metro:

NEW DELHI: This October, when Delhi Metro throws open to the public its Magenta Line spanning Janakpuri West and Botanical Garden, expect to get a train — and a driverless one at that — every 100 seconds.
The 36.98km stretch, the first phase of which will be commissioned after three months, will run on Communication Based Train Control (CBCT), a state-of-the-art signaling technology, which will help the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) slash its existing peak-hour frequency of 135 seconds.

Delhi metro runs 8 coach trains(capacity-3000)/6 coach rakes on it's older network and exclusively 6 coach rakes (capacity : 2280) on the new, CBTC enabled networks.

Want to calculate capacity ? Don't make silly mistakes this time, please.

Also the stations will contain more modern facilities as per other reports

Such as ?

 

[KapitaanAli]

1696 passengers in a single train and a train will come at every 4 minutes. So 60,000 from each direction per hour or 120,000 from both direction in a single hour. All these means, train will have to contain more coaches, station have to be much bigger.There will be more station, 16 for 20km journey. Are any Indian metro in such a scale? Also the stations will contain more modern facilities as per other reports. @gslv mk3 you have done a lot of monkey dance shouting extra cost of Dhaka metro and how cost effective are the great are Indian rust bucket metros. Now consider these facts and don't forget it is being done by the Japanese. So, no Indian style cheap, low class construction devoid of any aesthetics.

Why do you want to go back to this nonsense?
No other country calculates footfall by imagining the coaches as Auschwitz Express. It's done by other means.

60,000 is the number if there are eight people per sq m, two way.
Rational countries only do six per sq m.
So it's not bigger coaches, rather just cramming more in. And even that is only if there are enough customers.

Be logical.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

@UKBengali thanks for highlighting the error.It is corrected.

 

[gslv mk3]

how cost effective are the great are Indian rust bucket metros. Now consider these facts and don't forget it is being done by the Japanese. So, no Indian style cheap, low class construction devoid of any aesthetics.

Rust bucket metro... Apparently one of the largest in the world....

Now taking up projects abroad as well..

L&T Construction wins Rs 4510 Crs Doha Metro Project

Mr. BeeDee, Japanese were our consultants when we started construction of Delhi Metro in the late 90s. They employed Indian construction companies since we weren't exactly 'devoid of basic engineering capabilities' back then as todays Bangladesh.