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Confirmed: Iran and Russia to Co-Produce Su-30 Fighter Jet

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Thank you!
didnt mean any disrespect but for some sectarian discussion supersedes everything I dare say if they can they will put even Muhammad PBUH on the spot demanding what "correct" side he is on.

back on topic
I visited Iran back in mid 80s.. seen the Car plants and also seen how Iran developed local variants based on American F-5 . kept the F 14s flying when it seemed impossible .. so with the injection of this newer technology I expect much needed push in right direction. I am keeping the discussion purely within the confines of technological know how and scientific base.
 
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Incorrect assessment.

Sir, Racism implies any kind of hatred based on race. I have nothing against Arabs. We have limited interactions with them. And the majority of Pakistanis(over 50%) are of my own race(though of different ethnicity).

So try not to bandy about words that bear no semblance to my post.

But we do exclusively train our pilots to fly and fight against specific aircraft's fielded by 'certain countries'. That is useful any day of the week. :)
Well mate i didn't call you racist or anything. I just said that racist comments should be avoided at all costs. Truth be told, i don't know you so my judgment was based on the observations of my dear friend waz.
All in all, if you say you didn't mean to be racist, that's enough for me and i apologize if i upset you in anyway.

Take care bro
 
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didnt mean any disrespect but for some sectarian discussion supersedes everything I dare say if they can they will put even Muhammad PBUH on the spot demanding what "correct" side he is on.

back on topic
I visited Iran back in mid 80s.. seen the Car plants and also seen how Iran developed local variants based on American F-5 . kept the F 14s flying when it seemed impossible .. so with the injection of this newer technology I expect much needed push in right direction. I am keeping the discussion purely within the confines of technological know how and scientific base.

Oh, I see. You have been around then (I assume you have seen those as part of an official visit). There is obviously alot to be done. Though the situation has improved since 80's but still the gap between developed world and Iran remains wide.

These sort of people are fast being isolated around the world. There is no future for them. Their hate ideology is losing ground, almost everywhere. So I am not worried about them as I was a few years ago. Though I believe the road to recovery will be a very very long one. At least not in our life times.
 
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It is really amazing that after 70 years since the invention of jet engines, countries such as ours are still lagging behind in this regard. Even China with all its manufacturing might still has problems with regard to engines.
Engine technology is notoriously hard to master.
We do have engine overhauling plants, and have also built one engine of our own design which works well, but it doesn't stack up the desired weight/thrust ratio that is required to power future generation of fighters.

I would say the only other country that would be able to break into the engine club is China in about a decade.
 
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Engine technology is notoriously hard to master.
We do have engine overhauling plants, and have also built one engine of our own design which works well, but it doesn't stack up the desired weight/thrust ratio that is required to power future generation of fighters.

I would say the only other country that would be able to break into the engine club is China in about a decade.

just make it bigger :dirol:
 
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well congratz to Iran...!!!

And for PAF....bhai koi khuda ka khof kr lo...le lo koi twin engine tm b....!!!!
 
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just make it bigger :dirol:
That won't solve the problem. Making it bigger keeps the weight/thrust ratio same.

weight/thrust ration is the thrust provided by the engine per kilogram.


We are going to tie up with a French company to improve our engine.
 
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Actually, it's not confirmed yet.

I wish we would order some Su-35s too. :cry:
i read somewhere that the order was escalating to Su-35 alongside Mig-35 :D

it would have been awesome if those were the case , wouldn't it ? :(

Although ,i settle for Su-30SM . lets not get greedy here :D its a perfect machine .
 
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Confirmed: Iran and Russia to Co-Produce Su-30 Fighter Jet | The Diplomat

During a recent television interview, Iran’s Defense Minister, General Hossein Dehqhan, announced that Iran will sign a contract with Russia for the co-production of an undisclosed number of Russian-made Sukhoi Su-30 multirole fighter aircraft, Fars News Agency reports.

Should the deal go through, Iran will be the second country in the world after India to produce a variation of the Su-30 fighter jet locally. However, as of now, it still remains unclear in what capacity Tehran will be involved in the aircraft production process.

According to a source within Iran’s Defense Ministry interviewed by Sputnik News, a contract could be signed as early as February 16, when the Iranian defense minister will arrive in Moscow to discuss the deliveries of S-300 air defense systems and the Sukhoi Su-30 aircraft.

“Minister Dehgan is taking a number of the Defense Ministry’s representatives to the Russian capital to meet with their Russian colleagues and other highly-ranked officials,” the source notes.

“The last stages will be discussed of delivering Iran the S-300 complex, the first part of which should arrive before the end of next month, and the second by the end of June. Minister Dehqwan will also discuss the delivery of Su-30 airplanes because the Defense Ministry believes the Iranian Air Force needs this type of plane. We’ve moved far in these discussions of purchases and I think that during the upcoming visit a contract will be signed,” according to the source.

First rumors about a likely Iranian-Russian Su-30 deal emerged already in the summer of 2015 during the MAKS airshow, held near Moscow. “We are discussing the purchase of Sukhoi fighter planes,” Dehqhan told Iran’s Press TV back then.

However, Iran’s Vice-President for Science and Technology Affairs, Sorena Sattari, who was also present during the discussions, downplayed the talks at the time: “We spoke about it but we didn’t discuss purchasing them and talks were mostly focused on the technological issues.”

As I explained previously (See: “Will Iran License-Build Russia’s T-90S Main Battle Tank?”):

Under the so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCOP), an international agreement on the nuclear program of Iran signed in July 2015, the UN arms embargo will be lifted 5 years after the JCOP adoption day. However, conventional weapons sales can be decided on a case-by-case basis meanwhile. “During the five years arms deliveries to Iran would be possible if they clear a notification and verification process in the UN Security Council,” according to Russia’s Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov.

It is unclear what variant of the Sukhoi Su-30 Iran is interested in, nor how many aircraft it wants to procure and within what timeframe. During his recent television interview, General Hossein Dehqhan, also rejected the idea of procuring Chengdu J-10 lightweight multirole fighter aircraft from China.

Not a good deal. Iran should go for SU35 and that investment will take Iran in a very next level and next 25 coming years.
 
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i read somewhere that the order was escalating to Su-35 alongside Mig-35 :D

it would have been awesome if those were the case , wouldn't it ? :(

Although ,i settle for Su-30SM . lets not get greedy here :D its a perfect machine .

Where did you read this?
 
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