Concern over Rohingya crisis is growing in Indonesia

[Offshore]

Psst FYI, most loans are project based loans injected through JV, if the JV failed to settle the invested capital, any Chinese companies involved will be injured as well. Anyway, dont worry, we paid larger debts in full, Chinese debt is nothing compared to what we have endured. We are not Myanmar, the only reason we accept your project proposal is because your government bargained hard and even subsidized some of it, so there goes your tax money

who you trying to fool, your goverment put your state assets as guarantee. and this information come from my friend works in China largest bank, he handle this kind of loan in many country, indonesia is one of them.
with indonesia work ethic and management,
wasn't hard to predict the outcome

 

[waz]

Right you post off-topic after this you face a ban. Please don’t say I didn’t warn you.

 

[nufix]

who you trying to fool, your goverment put your state assets as guarantee. and this information come from my friend works in China largest bank, he handle this kind of loan in many country, indonesia is one of them.
with indonesia work ethic and management,
wasn't hard to predict the outcome

Name one, I dare you otherwise you and your friend are just talking bullshit like you always do

 

[Offshore]

Name one, I dare you otherwise you and your friend are just talking bullshit like you always do

you free to take it or leave it.
your country portfolio is High Risk, High Gain

 

[nufix]

you free to take it or leave it.
your country portfolio is High Risk, High Gain

You havent even answered my question, you are quite jumpy in discussions arent ya?

 

[Offshore]

You havent even answered my question, you are quite jumpy in discussions arent ya?

dude? for real? you asking confidential information on internet?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

dude? for real? you asking confidential information on internet?

The burden of proof is on you not him.

 

[nufix]

dude? for real? you asking confidential information on internet?

Haha I knew it, standard answer.

 

[waz]

Short one day bans for you gents, I clearly warned you.

 

[Place Of Space]

OK using your logic, Chinese should also stay silent on the 1998 issue right? Not necessary to bring that up every now and then.

Not bring that very often, when you guys concern Rohingya reminds me, not to mention we are the same race, I have any reasons.
You concern on so called Rohingya crisis is geopolitics, better we bring it onto table. It's ridiculous to show the gesture like you guys have some humanity with others.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Not bring that very often, when you guys concern Rohingya reminds me, not to mention we are the same race, I have any reasons.
You concern on so called Rohingya crisis is geopolitics, better we bring it onto table. It's ridiculous to show the gesture like you guys have some humanity with others.

Not everything is geo-politics. Indonesia have nothing to gain from supporting the rohingya hence why almost no politician condemns the tatmadaw & just showing "concern for the situation."

Supports for the rohingya are mostly humanitarian.

 

[hussain0216]

Terrorists threaten others lives, so they deserve to be killed. You may try to hold a knife or weapon in the street try to hurt ours, I'm sure you will be arrested even be shot by policemen. You are becareful, not let the muslim emotion bring your irrational action.

Maybe the chinese were commiting crimes or were involved in actions of a violent and terrorist nature that forced the indonesians to defend themselves against the violence


See how this works

This kind of idiocy can justify any atrocities including against innocent Rohingya

 

[Place Of Space]

Not everything is geo-politics. Indonesia have nothing to gain from supporting the rohingya hence why almost no politician condemns the tatmadaw & just showing "concern for the situation."

Supports for the rohingya are mostly humanitarian.

I would say BD concern the crisis is real humanity. They truely care about Rohingya, for any reasons. You can save your tears to make us not feel disgusting. Okay, hope you understand my view.

Maybe the chinese were commiting crimes or were involved in actions of a violent and terrorist nature that forced the indonesians to defend themselves against the violence


See how this works

This kind of idiocy can justify any atrocities including against innocent Rohingya

You may have read the former poster said because Chinese was the weakest in Indonesia. You don't need to guess background of the riot, and it's a long period since 1960's. I can see the situation thee improved, but the victims still lack an apologize and memory. Who know the guys will not go crazy again before the problem completely solved.

 

[Indos]

You may have read the former poster said because Chinese was the weakest in Indonesia. You don't need to guess background of the riot, and it's a long period since 1960's. I can see the situation thee improved, but the victims still lack an apologize and memory. Who know the guys will not go crazy again before the problem completely solved.

Chinese is the weakest if it is compared with the government. Instead of burning government building, the mob rather burned Chinese businesses since it is safer to do so. If talking about 1960, the violence target is all the communist, both native and Chinese. It is not anti Chinese but anti Communist.

May 1998 riots is also anti Soeharto, you need to see the background to understand the context. Chinese get targeted due to its link with Soeharto, especially the conglomerates, and "some" people start to make a generalization.

Chinese have been in Indonesia since ancient time. There was no anti Chinese sentiment in the past for hundreds of years. Even ancient Chinese people coming has become native. I have made a thread about it.

The problem has been completely solved by changing our government system into democracy that pushes dialog, election, and peaceful demonstration rather than making a riot to get heard or to change the leader.

@Place Of Space

This is a new Indonesia where peaceful demonstration and election become the tool to get heard or to change the course of the government or to change the regime.

And this

 

[sinait]

Maybe the chinese were commiting crimes or were involved in actions of a violent and terrorist nature that forced the indonesians to defend themselves against the violence

See how this works

This kind of idiocy can justify any atrocities including against innocent Rohingya

Those were not criminals or terrorists, but Chinese women being raped and murdered by deranged Indonesian RAPISTS and LOOTERS.
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/10/...ts-of-numerous-rapes-of-chinese-in-riots.html
In Jakarta, Reports Of Numerous Rapes Of Chinese in Riots
In addition to the looting and arson that was largely aimed at Chinese neighborhoods in three days of rioting in Jakarta last month, human rights and women's aid groups have begun to document what they say appears to have been an organized campaign of assaults, gang rapes and killings of ethnic Chinese women.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/黑色五月暴动
Google Translate:
The 1998 Indonesian Chinese Exclusion (Indonesian: Kerusuhan Mei 1998), also known as the Black May riot, refers to the riots that occurred in the cities of Medan, Jakarta, and Solo in Indonesia from May 13 to 16, 1998. A series of riots against the Chinese community. The riots lasted for about three days, and tens of thousands of Chinese were ill-treated and killed.
At that time, Indonesia was experiencing the turbulent period of the Asian financial turmoil. The Indonesian government adopted a tacit or inaction attitude. There is also evidence that the riot was planned by the Indonesian military.

However, it should be noted that although there were ethnic conflicts in this incident. The reason is mostly caused by the inequality between the Chinese and the locals. The goal of the Indonesian people was to oppose the Chinese holding huge wealth.

According to information released by the Indonesian government agency National Solidarity Development Bureau on July 10, a riot occurred in the middle of May with Chinese as the main target.
468 Chinese women were raped. The oldest is 55 years old, and the youngest is only 9 years old. year old. Among them, 20 Chinese women were raped or beaten to death or were thrown into the sea of fire and turned into ashes. The deceased included the 9-year-old girl who died of genital mutilation, died of serious illness and died in hospital.

Groups such as the Indonesian “Relief Center for Rape Women” and the “Women’s Contact Information Center” said that the exact figures of raped Chinese women could not be grasped because of government pushes, intimidation by criminal groups and the difficulty of victims. Some human rights organizations estimate that the correct number should be more than a thousand.
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