Comparative strengths of Bangladesh and Myanmar

[Nabil365]

They're now comparing F7 to JF-17 @Windjammer @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Manticore @Horus

Well if Pakistan can compare F-16 with
Su-30mki,then why not.

 

[tarpitz]

Small arms and infantry support machine guns manufactured by Myanmar Defence Industries displayed in ASEAN Armies Rifle Meet.

MA 15 GPMG

MA 16 HMG (Licensed production os Singapore CIS 50MG) (older M2HB are being replaced with MA 16)

14.5 mm HMG (Licensed production of Chinese QJG 02)

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

To any burmese here having an old ship is nothing to be ashamed of. What makes a ship deadly is not the hull but what's inside the ship that matters.

For example we bought the cut nyak dien class from the former east german navy & thanks to continuous upgrade it still serves us well into this day.

The only thing old about this ship is the hull everything inside is modern. Also the burmese shouldn't cast the first rock considering they also have second hand ships themselves.

 

[TopCat]

To any burmese here having an old ship is nothing to be ashamed of. What makes a ship deadly is not the hull but what's inside the ship that matters.

For example we bought the cut nyak dien class from the former east german navy & thanks to continuous upgrade it still serves us well into this day.


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The only thing old about this ship is the hull everything inside is modern. Also the burmese shouldn't cast the first rock considering they also have second hand ships themselves.

These idiots think they built a better hull than italian Minerva.

 

[Nabil365]

To any burmese here having an old ship is nothing to be ashamed of. What makes a ship deadly is not the hull but what's inside the ship that matters.

For example we bought the cut nyak dien class from the former east german navy & thanks to continuous upgrade it still serves us well into this day.


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The only thing old about this ship is the hull everything inside is modern. Also the burmese shouldn't cast the first rock considering they also have second hand ships themselves.

Well sea state level 4 ship should not be compared with proven ships.

coz it's bitter truth for BD navy freshest frigate is about 17 years old.



go and check urself. almost 70% of our ship are built in Naval shipyard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_in_the_Myanmar_Navy


lol seem u didnt do ur maths homework.


lol go and ask Naval Expert Penguin. keep dreaming..
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yes. we dont have any missiles. Happy ..?


lol 2 BGB vs 4 BGP is not outnumbered. just obvious that BGB have no ability to save their lives even in just small fight. go and cry at the corner.

lol completely wrong info. check the fights since last 8 years ago.. it were just near the border line. that's why the bombs of Myanmar Af fell into the China side.

Continue to feel proud of your north korean manpad defence.We saw how north korean missiles fail now and then.
Probably your sea state level 4 ships would sink into the bottom of the sea.

 

[tarpitz]

CH 3A UCAV of Myanmar.

 

[UKBengali]

5 out of 6 frigates from your mighty navy are second hand.

The oldest 2 frigates were commissioned even before the creation of BD. (48 & 47 yrs old ships)

Even the youngest frigates, which was decommissioned and decommissioned again and again, was first commissioned 16 years ago.

2 out of 6 frigates have no anti ship missiles, no sonar, no ASW capabilities.

Downgraded Type 056 corvettes C 13 B have no sonar & no ASW capabilities.

Air defence? Yes MN frigates are weak in AD. But it is still ok with Igla S with optical tracking system coz BAF doesn't have any anti ship capabilities.

BTW do not forget that 5 out of 6 frigates from your mighty navy have no SAM at all.

2 out of 6 frigates don't even have AAA guns.

3 out of 6 frigates have no SAM.

Don't talk about ''BD will blah blah blah in future''. Just tired of it. Too much ''will''.

Be realistic.

3.5 larger GDP? Never forget that you also have 3.5 larger population. Population time bomb on the sinking land.

Stop this crap that BD cannot spend more because it has 3 times larger population. It is not 3.5x larger population btw as BD GDP/capita is slightly above Myanmar. Currently BD spends 3.2 US billion dollars and that is 1.25% of GDP, where Myanmar spends 2 billion US dollars and that is 3% of your GDP. BD can easily raise to 2% of GDP which would be 5 billion US dollars but can Myanmar match this as it would have to spend 7% of it's
GDP? 2% of GDP for BD is affordable and will in no way harm it's economy but Myanmarese living standards will be decimated if it tries to match BD defence spending.

You Barmans will be soon dominated by BD and will be under BD like you are currently under China. China and BD will cut a deal soon and you will obey like the insignificant savages you are.

 

[Bilal9]

CH 3A UCAV of Myanmar.
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So - Tatmadaw guys fly RC planes for hobby now, Good !

 

[bluesky]

They're now comparing F7 to JF-17

Surly F-7 has greater positive performance records than FC-1/JF-17. Mig-21 is the predecessor of F-7, and there was a time when Mig-21 was called poor man's F-16.

 

[tarpitz]

Surly F-7 has greater positive performance records than FC-1/JF-17. Mig-21 is the predecessor of F-7, and there was a time when Mig-21 was called poor man's F-16.

LoL.
Only the school kids will believe it.
Comparing 1960s era manual flight control F 7 with fly by wire JF 17 Block 2. Just insane.

 

[tarpitz]

Stop this crap that BD cannot spend more because it has 3 times larger population. It is not 3.5x larger population btw as BD GDP/capita is slightly above Myanmar. Currently BD spends 3.2 US billion dollars and that is 1.25% of GDP, where Myanmar spends 2 billion US dollars and that is 3% of your GDP. BD can easily raise to 2% of GDP which would be 5 billion US dollars but can Myanmar match this as it would have to spend 7% of it's
GDP? 2% of GDP for BD is affordable and will in no way harm it's economy but Myanmarese living standards will be decimated if it tries to match BD defence spending.

You Barmans will be soon dominated by BD and will be under BD like you are currently under China. China and BD will cut a deal soon and you will obey like the insignificant savages you are.

Be realistic.

Unlike BD, Myanmar has better defence industries.

Myanmar defence industries produce all infantry weapons and ammunitions, heavy machine guns, heavy mortars and shells, Kevlar body armour and helmet, 122 mm D 30-2 howitzer, 122/240 mm MLRS and rockets, 105/122/155 mm ammunitions, BTR 3U, different types of trucks. . etc. . .

Myanmar Defence Industries even assembled KS 1B medium range SAM locally.

Myanmar shipyard built from small FACs up to frigates.

Myanmar AF assembled K 8W, CH 3 and unguided 57/80/122 rockets for aircrafts.

Our defence policy is self sufficiency.

Now MM achieved almost 100% self sufficient in infantry weapons.

That's why MM can spend more money on buying things like aircrafts, missiles and other heavy hardware.

In contrast BD has to buy A to Z from other countries.

. . BD has to rely too much on other countries.

As long as you don't have a decent defence industries, you will have to invest too much on importing military hardware from other countries.

That's the difference between MM & BD.

MM may spend less defence budget, but it is more efficient than BD.

 

[UKBengali]

Be realistic.

Unlike BD, Myanmar has better defence industries.

Myanmar defence industries produce all infantry weapons and ammunitions, heavy machine guns, heavy mortars and shells, Kevlar body armour and helmet, 122 mm D 30-2 howitzer, 122/240 mm MLRS and rockets, 105/122/155 mm ammunitions, BTR 3U, different types of trucks. . etc. . .

Myanmar Defence Industries even assembled KS 1B medium range SAM locally.

Myanmar shipyard built from small FACs up to frigates.

Myanmar AF assembled K 8W, CH 3 and unguided 57/80/122 rockets for aircrafts.

Our defence policy is self sufficiency.

Now MM achieved almost 100% self sufficient in infantry weapons.

That's why MM can spend more money on buying things like aircrafts, missiles and other heavy hardware.

In contrast BD has to buy A to Z from other countries.

. . BD has to rely too much on other countries.

As long as you don't have a decent defence industries, you will have to invest too much on importing military hardware from other countries.

That's the difference between MM & BD.

MM may spend less defence budget, but it is more efficient than BD.

BD defence industry also produces most of what Myanmar does as well now. Just Google what is now being produced in BD from manpads to small warships. In the future even more weapons will be produced in-house.

Unlike Myanmar, BD has an industrial base in areas like electronics and so developing for this sector of sector would be much less expensive and time-consuming for BD over Myanmar.

Myanmar did used to spend 5% of GDP on defence as recently as 2015 but has reduced to 3% now as that number was not sustainable. BD can easily increase from the current low 1.25% of GDP and Myanmar will not be able to respond without diverting huge finds from the development sector.

By 2020/2021, BD will dominate Myanmar in land, sea and air. You will be BD's play thing very soon.

 

[pher]

Don't bring geo-politics into a thread about military comparisons. This is about military not politics. Even in those regards burma is in an even more disadvantages.

Fur examples if burma goes to war all the other ethnic groups the country have been in war with for more than 50 years will take the opportunity to take an entire regions for themselves & then burma will have to fight in every fronts.
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where did you get your geo-politics knowhow? From dutchman or british?

Burma did have some various warlords, but those have zero intent to seek for independence or expand, all they want is to hold their own territory for some kind of self rule, so what you are preaching will never happen.

And last but not the least, never never claim yourself as a Chinese again to put shame on us. maybe you carry an iota of Chinese blood, but definitely you are a muslim and west-licker from a barbaric island , go to category yourself accordingly.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

where did you get your geo-politics knowhow? From dutchman or british?

Burma did have some various warlords, but those have zero intent to seek for independence or expand, all they want is to hold their own territory for some kind of self rule, so what you are preaching will never happen.

And last but not the least, never claim yourself as Chinese to put shame on us. maybe you carry an iota of Chinese blood, but definitely you are a muslim and west-licker of a barbaric island , go to category yourself accordingly.

How am I supposed to answer a completely false statement like that? The burmese ethnic rebels goal has always been about independence. Given the chance they will seize it. This is just common knowledge.

Stick to topic & let us return to discussing about how shitty the Tatmadaw are compared to bangla or other contemporary army.

 

[pher]

How am I supposed to answer a completely false statement like that? The burmese ethnic rebels goal has always been about independence. Given the chance they will seize it. This is just common knowledge.

Stick to topic & let us return to discussing about how shitty the Tatmadaw are compared to bangla or other contemporary army.

you seem have little knowhow of burmar on the ground besides your own wild imagination.The burmese ethnic rebels exist is because China allow it to, not because of they are capable of. Take the example of wa-state , the largest warlord of myanmar who pledge whole loyalty to China, and they have 2 basic principles now, never seeking independence and never ceding an inch of their territory from self-rule. In another word, they are disciplined by China.

It is meaningless to compare military strength without calculating geo-politics factors, otherwise you admired mighty Us of A could easily got a run on vietnam rather than failed miserably. but I bet you primitive islanders will never understand. You think China will sit tight in such event? you are so naive.